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Why the weekly Sabbath (Saturday) is the Lord's Day, in the Bible

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God's OT one-day Sabbath rest being a pattern/type of God's NT full-time Sabbath rest,
Sabbath was created in Gen 2:1-3 without any reference to sin or salvation. Mankind had not fallen into sin and were not using the Sabbath to help restore/rescue their relationship to God in any way.

Also in Is 66:23 we see that for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship"


from our own works (to save) and in Jesus' finished work which saves to the uttermost!
That is how the Gospel works for sure - but no one in Gen 2:1-3 was appealing to the Gospel. And that is when God says He made the Sabbath into a holy day for mankind.
 
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if the quote is accurate Mr. Trese has no basis to call the Sabbath the Lord's day. There is a single reference in the entire bible regarding the Lord's day and it's Rev 1:10. Not a single place in the bible refers to the Sabbath as the Lord's day and the language of calling it the Lord's day is completely absent in the OT as it would be odd to call it anything by the Sabbath. Christ refers to himself as "Lord of the Sabbath" which is a different expression and different context. Textual criticism would not align these terms together as their context is too dissimilar.

Rev 1:10 "Lord's day" is a reference to the day of the week that John's events happen. Otherwise, there are no explicit references to what day of the week this day is or expectations on that day, so biblical speaking there is no basis to call this day any day. The closest match to any further understanding of this text is from early church sources and if you refuse to accept that then there's nothing else that can help you identify this day.

The early church adopted this term for the day of Sunday and to this day in modern Greek the name for the day of the week "Sunday" is Kyriakí, which continues this tradition. The names of the days of the week in Greek from Monday to Thursday are essentially saying second, third, fourth, and fifth.... referencing the days of the week counted since Sabbath. Friday remains "preparation day" and Sabbath remains as Sabbath. This is all adopted from Jewish customs with the exception of Sunday which has adopted the terminology "The Lord's Day".

Lord of the Sabbath (for example Mat 12) is a reference to authority over the Sabbath whereas "The Lord's Day" is an honorific title used by the church post-ascension. They have different goals, Christ's goal is to show he has authority over the Sabbath and understand its deeper meanings which is why he also makes the statement that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. This is Christ demonstrating his authority because he knows the true purpose of the day. "The Lord's Day" on the other has is not about authority it is about a weekly celebration of Christ's resurrection given posthumously (or more properly post-ascension) by the Church.

The term "Lord's Day" is not a governed term and in a closed context you are free to call any day of the week using whatever term you choose but broadly speaking it would be irresponsible and would only promote wide confusion since most understand this day to be synonymous with the 1st day of the week. Christ has authority over the Sabbath and the biblical term used is "Lord of the Sabbath" If you wish to use "Lord's Day" to capture the same meaning then be clear about your purpose so others know what you're talking about. But this cannot be responsibly conflated with the term used in Rev 1:10. Since the term in Rev 1:10 really doesn't address any doctrinal expectations on the day it's a bit silly to demand it supports the Sabbath. It is really inconsequential if this the "Lord's day" of Rev 1:10 means the Sabbath, Sunday, or some other day so I don't know why this is such a pressed point. Regardless of the meaning of Rev 1:10 the meaning and purpose behind the Sabbath is unaffected so why not just drop the argument and accept mainstream understanding of the term? Call it a misnomer if you will but Sunday is the Lord's day, sunset Friday and sunset Saturday are the Sabbath. There's no need to mix these terms up or demand one means the other.
 
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God's OT one-day Sabbath rest being a pattern/type of God's NT full-time Sabbath rest, from our own works (to save) and in Jesus' finished work which saves to the uttermost!

The author is talking about the Seventh day Sabbath:

Hebrews 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.​
Hebrews 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.​

He who has entered His rest ceases from his works as God did from his—>on the seventh day Sabbath.
 
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Sabbath was created in Gen 2:1-3 without any reference to sin or salvation. Mankind had not fallen into sin and were not using the Sabbath to help restore/rescue their relationship to God in any way.

Also in Is 66:23 we see that for all eternity after the cross in the New Earth "from Sabbath to Sabbath shall all mankind come before Me to worship"
Which is done in the NT Sabbath by all those in Christ.
That is how the Gospel works for sure - but no one in Gen 2:1-3 was appealing to the Gospel. And that is when God says He made the Sabbath into a holy day for mankind.
Holy = set apart. . .in this case. set apart from work and to rest.

The Sabbath is about man's rest, it was made for man, as a rest day, about which rest God was emphatic. . .God's full-time rest from his work being a pattern of our full-time rest in Jesus Christ, from our own works to save and in Jesus' finished work which saves.
God's own full-time rest from his finished work is the pattern of the NT full-time rest from our own work to save and in Christ's finished work which saves (Heb 3:7-4:13).

You have demonstrated no Biblical error in the context nor the explanation of either the link or the explanation in post #11.
 
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if the quote is accurate Mr. Trese has no basis to call the Sabbath the Lord's day. There is a single reference in the entire bible regarding the Lord's day and it's Rev 1:10. Not a single place in the bible refers to the Sabbath as the Lord's day and the language of calling it the Lord's day is completely absent in the OT as it would be odd to call it anything by the Sabbath. Christ refers to himself as "Lord of the Sabbath" which is a different expression and different context. Textual criticism would not align these terms together as their context is too dissimilar.

Rev 1:10 "Lord's day" is a reference to the day of the week that John's events happen. Otherwise, there are no explicit references to what day of the week this day is or expectations on that day, so biblical speaking there is no basis to call this day any day. The closest match to any further understanding of this text is from early church sources and if you refuse to accept that then there's nothing else that can help you identify this day.

The early church adopted this term for the day of Sunday and to this day in modern Greek the name for the day of the week "Sunday" is Kyriakí, which continues this tradition. The names of the days of the week in Greek from Monday to Thursday are essentially saying second, third, fourth, and fifth.... referencing the days of the week counted since Sabbath. Friday remains "preparation day" and Sabbath remains as Sabbath. This is all adopted from Jewish customs with the exception of Sunday which has adopted the terminology "The Lord's Day".

Lord of the Sabbath (for example Mat 12) is a reference to authority over the Sabbath whereas "The Lord's Day" is an honorific title used by the church post-ascension. They have different goals, Christ's goal is to show he has authority over the Sabbath and understand its deeper meanings which is why he also makes the statement that it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath. This is Christ demonstrating his authority because he knows the true purpose of the day. "The Lord's Day" on the other has is not about authority it is about a weekly celebration of Christ's resurrection given posthumously (or more properly post-ascension) by the Church.

The term "Lord's Day" is not a governed term and in a closed context you are free to call any day of the week using whatever term you choose but broadly speaking it would be irresponsible and would only promote wide confusion since most understand this day to be synonymous with the 1st day of the week. Christ has authority over the Sabbath and the biblical term used is "Lord of the Sabbath" If you wish to use "Lord's Day" to capture the same meaning then be clear about your purpose so others know what you're talking about. But this cannot be responsibly conflated with the term used in Rev 1:10. Since the term in Rev 1:10 really doesn't address any doctrinal expectations on the day it's a bit silly to demand it supports the Sabbath. It is really inconsequential if this the "Lord's day" of Rev 1:10 means the Sabbath, Sunday, or some other day so I don't know why this is such a pressed point. Regardless of the meaning of Rev 1:10 the meaning and purpose behind the Sabbath is unaffected so why not just drop the argument and accept mainstream understanding of the term? Call it a misnomer if you will but Sunday is the Lord's day, sunset Friday and sunset Saturday are the Sabbath. There's no need to mix these terms up or demand one means the other.

Tradition or the Commandment of God?
  • Church tradition—the tradition of men—calls the Lord's day Sunday. There is no Biblical support for Sunday being called the Lord's day.
  • Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath—of the seventh day. This establishes Jesus as Lord of the seventh day Sabbath, which indeed can be called the Lord's day as He has authority over it.
I would certainly weigh on the side scripture always, and not tradition. What did Jesus say about putting tradition over the commandment of God?

Matthew 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

Surely the Christian can see the one that carries more weight, the commandment of God.

The problem, as I see it, with the Lord's day being associated with Sunday is that it is a tradition of men that has institutionalized Sunday in the place of the seventh day Sabbath. It has replaced it as a day of worship, to the point where even if a Christian feels convicted to observe the Sabbath they will think first of Sunday as the day to observe (this evidenced from articles and blogs posted on the web).

Apostasy

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.​
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.​

A falling away = Apostasy; defection from the truth.
  • Let no man deceive you by any means (tradition?).
  • Apostasy must happen before that day (the great day of wrath).
  • Apostasy is defection from the truth; it happens within the church, not outside of it. You have to first know the truth to defect from it.
  • The son of perdition opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is (note->) worshiped.
  • He would think to change times and laws.
The apostasy has been ongoing since Paul's day (as he mentions three verses later in 2 Thessalonians 2:7), and the son of perdition has already come on the scene and implemented the apostasy that would cause defection from the truth, and that apostasy is the reverence of a day of tradition over the commandment of God. The ongoing apostasy will culminate in the enforcing of worship (Revelation 13:15-17), of which Sunday will no doubt be the central focus, as it is a traditional Christian institution.

Closing

This is my personal conviction:

I think I'll stick with what scripture says and obey God. Sunday tradition subverts the truth of scripture and the authority of God, namely His commandment to remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.
 
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as God did from His.
That's the part that's interesting. Why did God cease working? Not because he was tired which is an anti-god characteristic. Day 7 of creation is the antithesis to before light is spoken. It contrasts themes like light/darkness, complete/incomplete, formed/unformed, full/empty, rest/chaos, etc.... The creation account is a salvation metaphor (2 Cor 4:6) and we can continue these contrasts with words like eternal life/perish, saved/unsaved, found/lost etc.... Light is spoken into darkness and started a work that when complete ushers in rest. God ceases his work because the work is complete and likewise we enter God's rest through a completed work in us through Christ (James 1:4)
 
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I would certainly weigh on the side scripture always, and not tradition. What did Jesus say about putting tradition over the commandment of God?
Scripture has left this uncommented. Rev 1:10 is the only "Lord's Day" reference and it doesn't give us enough information to know what day of the week it is. It being a latter text in the bible after the church has been establish and used matter of factly, we can infer it is an expression that came into popular use from the established church of the NT. Since there is no other references church tradition is the closest with the earlier post-biblical reference being mid 2nd century.

The Rev 1:10 reference however has no consequence to the Sabbath or Sunday so it really doesn't matter what day it references. Why is this so important to be a Sabbath reference? Why would the NT church change the language from the Sabbath to the Lord's Day? Those things make no sense. Sunday has cause to be called the Lord's Day and I'm sure you know the reasons, to me the favour is far more clear for the day of Sunday. However this doesn't mean Sunday/Sabbath are conflated. Sabbath is still Sabbath, Sunday is still Sunday which I think is the fear. I do use Lord's Day as a reference to Sunday but I reject the conflating of Sunday/Sabbath and would quickly correct anyone who calls Sunday the Sabbath. Since the reference has no consequence to the Sabbath theologically speaking I don't see this being an important issue.

Biblically speaking the Lord's Day neither supports the Sabbath nor is in competition with the Sabbath. Your argument is with post-biblical traditions that conflat the Sabbath and 1st day of the week as one and not with the biblical interpretation outside this conflation.
 
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Which is done in the NT Sabbath by all those in Christ.
Holy = set apart. . .in this case. set apart from work and to rest.
The Sabbath is about man's rest, it was made for man, as a rest day, about which rest God was emphatic. . .God's full-time rest from his work being a pattern of our full-time rest in Jesus Christ, from our own works to save and in Jesus' finished work which saves.
God's own full-time rest from his finished work is the pattern of the NT full-time rest from our own work to save and in Christ's finished work which saves (Heb 3:7-4:13).

The author is talking about the Seventh day Sabbath:

Hebrews 4:4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.​
Hebrews 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.​

He who has entered His rest ceases from his works as God did from his—>on the seventh day Sabbath.
He points out that God's own rest (Heb 3:11, Heb 4:3, Heb 4:5) is full time (Heb 4:3-4)--not just the seventh day as in the OT for the Hebrews--which is the full-time rest in the NT from our own works to save and in the finished work of Jesus Christ which saves, and who is our NT Sabbath.

"Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ." (Col 2:16-17)
 
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He points out that God's own rest (Heb 3:11, Heb 4:3, Heb 4:5) is full time (Heb 4:3-4)--not just the seventh day as in the OT for the Hebrews--which is the full-time rest in the NT from our own works to save and in the finished work of Jesus Christ which saves, and who is our NT Sabbath.
Hi Claire,

I would like to examine the scripture you reference stating it says God’s own rest is full time, because these scriptures do not seem to be saying what you are claiming they are…. Previously you seemed to acknowledged there was no scripture that supports this (post #9), so not sure why you continue promoting something that is not in the scriptures.

Hebrews 3:11 So I swore in My wrath, ‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”
Hebrews 4:3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: “So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ”although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Hebrews 4:5 and again in this place: “They shall not enter My rest.”
Hebrews 4:3-4 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: “So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ” although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;

Not one of these scriptures says God’s own rest is full time, these are all references to the OT and a direct reference to Psalms 95. None of these verses state that Jesus is our NT Sabbath and suddenly became a day, our truth does not make it God’s Truth and we should be careful not to add to God’s own Words, especially Words that proceeded directly out of His mouth, who spoke and wrote the Ten Commandments Ecc 3:14, Deut 4:2
 
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"Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ." (Col 2:16-17)
I always find it interesting that when one uses this verse they always leave out the context which is in Col 2:14.

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Here is an old post that gives a very detailed explanation of these verses and the proper context. I pray all those who are reading this, read with an open mind, because ignoring context to the Truth of God’s Word is really only hurting yourself, the Truth sets us free and all of God’s commandments are Truth Psalms 119:151.

PART 1

Colossians 2:14-17,
14,
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15, And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it. 16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath(s): 17, which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Colossians 2:14
Let’s start with the context of Colossians 2:16-17. The context is verse 14 which is the blotting out (G1813; ἐξαλείφω; exaleiphō; ex-al-i'-fo; means to obliterate; erase; wipe away) the handwriting of ordinances which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way nailing it to the cross.

The next question we need to consider is what is the handwriting of ordinances that are to be erased and nailed to the cross?

The Greek words used here is handwriting G5498 χειρόγραφον; cheirographon; which means; hand written legal document which is combined with ordinance G1378 δόγμα dogma dog'-mah From the base of G1380; which means; civil, ceremonial or ecclesiastical law: - decree;

The Greek meaning of handwriting of ordinances in V14 is a hand written legal document or book of civil, ceremonial and ecclesiastical laws. These are the laws referred to in verse 14 that have been erased and are nailed to the cross.

What is the legal written document or book (handwriting of ordinances) that includes the civil, ceremonial and ecclesiastical laws referring to?

There was two sets of laws that were given to God’s people in the Old Testament scriptures.

(1) God’s Law (10 commandments) pointed out what sin was and the penalty of sin which is death. It was never a cure for sin in the Old Testament as well as in the New. It only gives a knowledge of what sin is and righteousness (right doing) (Rom 3:20; 1John 3:4; Rom 6:23; Ps 119:172).

(2) The laws of Moses was the second set of laws and included all the civil, ceremonial, and ecclesiastical laws. These laws could not tell you what sin was this was the job of God’s Law, however the laws of Moses were the prescriptive cure for sin in the Old Covenant. These laws included all the Levitical and ceremonial laws, sacrificial burnt offerings for sin, annual festivals and earthly sanctuary services for sin. These laws were the cure for sin so the sinner could be made right with God. These where all prophetic in nature, teaching the plan of salvation which pointing to Jesus as the true lamb of God and our great high priest and His Work on our behalf in the Heavenly Sanctuary. (Leviticus 1; 3-12; 14-17; 22-23; Number 6-8; 15; 28-29; Deut 12; 33; Ex 25:8; John 1:29; 36; Rev 5:6; 1Cor 5:6-7; Heb 8:2-13; 9:1-28)

From the above it can be seen that God’s Law was written on stone and the laws of Moses in a book. God’s Law is forever and only points out what sin is but was never a cure for sin (Rom 3:20; 1John 3:4; Rom 6:23).

The laws of Moses included all the ceremonial and ecclesiastical laws that were the cure for sin with all the sin offerings and earthly Sanctuary services, annual festivals and sin offerings which were prophetic in nature and temporary pointing to the life, death, resurrection of Jesus and his role as the true lamb of God and your great high priest to atone for our sins (John 1:29; 36; Rev 5:6; 1Cor 5:6-7; Heb 8:2-13; 9:1-28). The handwriting of ordinances(ceremonial laws and ordinances written in a book) is referring to the ceremonial, ecclesiastical laws of Moses which included the Jewish annual festivals and sin offerings that pointed to Jesus.

Why were the ceremonial laws of Moses (handwriting of ordinances) nailed to the cross?

Jesus was our true sacrifice for our sins and the saviour of the world that the ceremonial laws of Moses all pointed to. When Jesus came and died the old Covenant laws of Moses that pointed to Jesus and the plan of salvation was fulfilled (John 1:29; 36; Rev 5:6; 1Cor 5:6-7; Heb 8:2-13; 9:1-28). Jesus is our true Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world and our sacrifice for our sins. It is our sins as well as the ceremonial laws of Moses that were nailed to the cross at the death of Jesus (Col 2:14; John 3:16).

Colossians 2:14 is the context of Colossians 2:16-17. The context is that all the ceremonial laws of Moses pointing to the plan of salvation and Jesus have been fulfilled and nailed to the cross and along with our sins, if we accept Jesus as our true Lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world (John 1:29). We are no longer under the Old Covenant laws of Moses. These do not include God’s Law which is forever (Ecc 3:14).

Now we have looked at the context of Colossians 2:16-17 by looking at verse 14 above and we know what it actually is that it is the ceremonial laws and sin offerings that are nailed to the cross along with our sins, let’s look at Colossians 2:16-17.

Colossians 2:16-17
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Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath day(s): 17, which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

Here is the actual Greek to English translation of Col 2:16-17 verses from the interlinear:

16 Not therefore anyone you let judge in regards to food or in regards to drink or in regards to a feast (or festival) or a new moon or Sabbath(s). 17 which are a shadow of things coming but body

In Col 2:16 the word rendered "holy-day" - ἑορτὴ heortē - in the Greek means a "feast" or "festival;"
Now, notice the key context within Col 2:16-17; No one is to judge you in regards to meat or drink, a feast or festival, or of the New Moon or of sabbath(s).

The Greek word for sabbath used in Col 2:16 G4521; σάββατο; is sabbaton which means to cease from secular labor, stop work, rest. It does not necessarily need to refer to the 7th Day Sabbath commandment. In Leviticus Chapter 23, there is special days within the Jewish annual festivals which are called a Holy convocation. There are special days that can fall on any day of the week. They are not a regular weekly 7th day Sabbath according to God’s Law (Ex 20:8-11) but are a sabbaton (Greek) in that no secular work was allowed and work was to cease and these Holy convocations were days of rest although not a Sabbath from God’s Law (10 commandments) they were a sabbath (sabbaton) as used in the Greek.

Scripture point summary:

1. Blotting out or nailing the handwriting of ordinances to the cross is referring to the ceremonial and ecclesiastical laws of Moses which includes all the sin offerings and laws relating to sin offering that pointed to the plan of salvation and Jesus (v14)
2. Jesus at the cross triumphing over principalities and powers (v 15)
3. No one to Judge you in meat and drink, festivals, new moon of the sabbath(s) (v16). Holy-day in the Greek means a festival and sabbath(s) in the Greek in this verse means sabbaton which simply means to cease from secular work and rest. It does not have to mean a 7th Day Sabbath (Ex 20:8-11)
4. The meat and drink, festivals, new moons or of the sabbath(s) are a shadow of things to come (v17)

Context within Col 2:16-17:
(1) meat or drink
(2) feast or festival
(3) new moons
(4) sabbath(s)
(5) Above were shadows of things to come
 
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"Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ." (Col 2:16-17)
Let’s look at the context of Col 2:14-17 to see which sabbath it is referring to


If you back up to Colossians 2:14 it makes this passage abundantly clear it is not referring to one of God's commandments. There is more than one Sabbath in the Bible. There is the weekly Sabbath that is a commandment of God and part of God’s eternal Ten Commandments and the annual sabbath(s) that are the yearly feasts days and are ordinances. The weekly Sabbath came before sin Genesis 2:1-3 the annual sabbath(s) was because of sin- after the fall.

Colossians 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

So we know this from Colossians 2:14:
1. They are handwritten
2. They are ordinances
3. They are contrary.

Does this fit the Sabbath commandment in any way? Absolutely not.
1. The Sabbath was finger-written by God Exodus 31:18 Exodus 32:16
2. The Sabbath is a commandment of God. Exodus 20, Exodus 34:28
3. God said the Sabbath is holy and blessed Exodus 20:8-11 Genesis 2:1-3

What Colossians 2:14 is referring to:

1. They are ordinances that have to do with sacrifices

Exodus 12:43 And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “This is the ordinance of the Passover:
Ezekiel 43:18 And He said to me, “Son of man, thus says the Lord God: ‘These are the ordinances for the altar on the day when it is made, for sacrificing burnt offerings on it, and for sprinkling blood on it.

2. They were handwritten
2 Chronicles 33:8 Neither will I any more remove the foot of Israel from out of the land which I have appointed for your fathers; so that they will take heed to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses.
Deuteronomy 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished,

3. They were contrary
Deuteronomy 31:26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;


Its very clear this passage is referring to the blood sacrifices for the forgiveness of sins which pointed to Jesus as He became our Sacrificial Lamb for the forgiveness of sins and sanctification when we turn from sin (breaking God's law 1 John 3:4, Romans 7:7) and turn to Christ and walk in obedience to Him. John 14:15

Hebrews 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it isnot possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.

Look familiar? Colossians 2:17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Christ became our Passover Sacrificial Lamb for the forgiveness of sins. 1 Corinthians 5:7 It has nothing to do with the weekly Sabbath which is one of God's eternal commandments written by God's own finger, spoke by God's own voice which God placed together and no man can separate as it resides in God's heavenly kingdom Revelation 11:19.

If one were to look at these scriptures in their Truth we would know clearly it is not referring to one of Gods Ten Commandments. We are sanctified by God's Truth through His Word John17:17 and all of God's commandments are Truth Psalms 119:151
 
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Hi Claire,

I would like to examine the scripture you reference stating it says God’s own rest is full time, because these scriptures do not seem to be saying what you are claiming they are…. Previously you acknowledged there was no scripture that supports this, so not sure why you continue promoting something that is not in the scriptures.
Hebrews 3:11 So I swore in My wrath, ‘They shall not enter My rest.’ ”
Hebrews 4:3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: “So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ”although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Hebrews 4:5 and again in this place: “They shall not enter My rest.”
Hebrews 4:3-4 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: “So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ” although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;
Not one of these scriptures says God’s own rest is full time,
Heb 4:3 does. He has been resting since the last day of creation; i.e., the foundation of the world. . .that's full-time since creation.
these are all references to the OT and a direct reference to Psalms 95.
Precisely. . .which psalm presents the history of Israel under Moses' leadership in the desert (keeping in mind that Heb 3:1-4:13 is demonstrating that Jesus is greater than Moses),
where Heb 3:7-8 is referring to
(1) Nu 14,
(2) as well as the time of David (Ps 95), and also now
(3) to the time of this writing to the Hebrew Christians regarding unbelief (Heb 3:12).
Just as the psalmist used the example of Israel under Moses (Nu 14) to warn the Israelites of unbelief (Heb 3:12) and disobedience in the psalmist's day,
so the writer of Hebrews is now applying the psalmist's warning, against unbelief and disobedience, to the Hebrew recipients of this letter in his day.
So the nature of the disobedience under Moses; i.e., it was failure to enter God's promised rest from their enemies in Canaan,
is key to the issue in Hebrews; i.e., failure to enter God's promised rest in the NT salvation rest of Jesus Christ.
And the rest promised by God in both cases (Canaan and Hebrews) is God's own rest from his works,
with the rest in Canaan being from their own protection of themselves, and in God's protection of them from their enemies,
and the rest in Hebrews being from their own work to save, and in God's own full-time rest of Christ's finished work which saves.
None of these verses state that Jesus is our NT Sabbath and suddenly became a day,
Likewise, no verse states that God is Trinity. . .the meaning is grasped only in the light of other truths which are stated.

Sabbath is about man's rest given him by God. The day is simply when man rests.
In the NT, that rest is God's own full-time rest given us in Christ's finished work.
Christ being our rest from work to save makes Christ our Sabbath.
You are adding to the word of God.
No more so than the Trinity adds to the word of God.

The Trinity is understood in the light of much Scripture where it is never explicitly stated, "God is three persons in one Being," but
where understanding of them in the light of all Scripture leaves no other conclusion.
Likewise, Jesus our Sabbath is understood in the light of other Scriptures where, though not explicitly stated, understanding of them in the light of the particular issues they present (e.g., Canaan, rest, warning against Hebrew unbelief) make their meaning clear.
 
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Heb 4:3 does. He has been resting since the last day of creation; i.e., the foundation of the world.
That’s not what this scripture says….

3 For we who have believed do enter that rest, as He has said: “So I swore in My wrath,
‘They shall not enter My rest,’ ” although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.

What day did God rest from the foundation of the world? The scripture tells us which day but for some reason the scripture keeps getting ignored…


Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Hebrews 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;

It can’t be anymore clearer- How do we enter into His rest? If we allow the scripture to answer, it tells us plainly.

Hebrews 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.

When did God cease from His works, this answers the question if one allows scripture to answer…

Genesis 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. 2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. 3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Hebrews 4:4 For He has spoken in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”;

"Therefore, do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration (Nu 28:11-15) or a Sabbath day (Lev 23). THese are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ."

Likewise, no verse states that God is Trinity. . .the meaning is grasped only in the light of other truths which are stated.

Sabbath is about the rest of man given him by God. The day is simply when man rests.
In the NT, that rest being God's own full-time rest given us in Christ's finished work.
Christ being our rest from work to save makes Christ our Sabbath.

There is no scripture that says Jesus is the Sabbath and suddenly became a day. This makes Jesus worshipping Himself Isaiah 66:23 and makes every scripture on the seventh day Sabbath in the bible out of context and goes against the Words that God spoke and God wrote Exodus 20:10. I already provided the context to Colossians 2:14-17 KJV which has to do with animal sacrifices Hebrews 10:1-10 because Jesus became our Sacrificial Lamb 1 Corinthians 5:7 NIV not one of the Ten Commandments. God said we cannot add or subtract to His commandments Deut 4:2 but you are free to believe what you want, it just doesn’t make it Truth.

Hebrews 4:9 NIV There remains (not changed), then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God;
 
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Let’s look at the context of Col 2:14-17 to see which sabbath it is referring to

If you back up to Colossians 2:14 it makes this passage abundantly clear it is not referring to one of God's commandments. There is more than one Sabbath in the Bible. There is the weekly Sabbath that is a commandment of God and part of God’s eternal Ten Commandments and the annual sabbath(s) that are the yearly feasts days and are ordinances. The weekly Sabbath came before sin Genesis 2:1-3 the annual sabbath(s) was because of sin- after the fall.
The weekly Sabbath was nevertheless made a part of the Decalogue, under which everyone was guilty.
Colossians 2:14
Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
"Written code," a business term, meaning a certificate of indebtedness in the debtor's handwriting, used as a designation for the Mosaic law with all its regulations, under which everyone is a debtor to God.
So we know this from Colossians 2:14:
1. They are handwritten
2. They are ordinances
3. They are contrary.

Does this fit the Sabbath commandment in any way? Absolutely not.
1. The Sabbath was finger-written by God Exodus 31:18 Exodus 32:16
2. The Sabbath is a commandment of God. Exodus 20, Exodus 34:28
3. God said the Sabbath is holy and blessed Exodus 20:8-11 Genesis 2:1-3
What Colossians 2:14 is referring to:
1. They are ordinances that have to do with sacrifices
It is referring to all the Mosaic regulations, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers.
Exodus 12:43 And the Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “This is the ordinance of the Passover:
Ezekiel 43:18 And He said to me, “Son of man, thus says the Lord God: ‘These are the ordinances for the altar on the day when it is made, for sacrificing burnt offerings on it, and for sprinkling blood on it.

2. They were handwritten
2 Chronicles 33:8 Neither will I any more remove the foot of Israel from out of the land which I have appointed for your fathers; so that they will take heed to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses.
Deuteronomy 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished,

3. They were contrary
Deuteronomy 31:26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;
Its very clear this passage is referring to the blood sacrifices for the forgiveness of sins
Not just the sacrifices, but all the regulations of the Mosaic law, under which they all were debtors to God.
which pointed to Jesus as He became our Sacrificial Lamb for the forgiveness of sins and sanctification when we turn from sin (breaking God's law 1 John 3:4, Romans 7:7) and turn to Christ and walk in obedience to Him. John 14:15

Hebrews 10:1 For the law, having a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with these same sacrifices, which they offer continually year by year, make those who approach perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? For the worshipers, once purified, would have had no more consciousness of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year. 4 For it isnot possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.

Look familiar? Colossians 2:17 which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ. Christ became our Passover Sacrificial Lamb for the forgiveness of sins. 1 Corinthians 5:7 It has nothing to do with the weekly Sabbath which is one of God's eternal commandments written by God's own finger, spoke by God's own voice which God placed together and no man can separate as it resides in God's heavenly kingdom Revelation 11:19.
If one were to look at these scriptures in their Truth we would know clearly it is not referring to one of Gods Ten Commandments. We are sanctified by God's Truth through His Word John17:17 and all of God's commandments are Truth Psalms 119:151
It is referring to all the Mosaic regulations, under which they were all guilty, no one was righteous (Ro 3:9-10).
 
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The weekly Sabbath was nevertheless made a part of the Decalogue, under which everyone was guilty.

"Written code," a business term, meaning a certificate of indebtedness in the debtor's handwriting, used as a designation for the Mosaic law with all its regulations, under which everyone is a debtor to God.


It is referring to all the Mosaic regulations, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers.

Not just the sacrifices, but all the regulations of the Mosaic law, under which they all were debtors to God.

It is referring to all the Mosaic regulations, under which they were all guilty, no one was righteous (Ro 3:9-10).
The Ten Commandments was not nailed to the cross, they are not ordinances, not handwritten, not contrary, but holy, righteous and good Romans 7:12 and not grievous. 1 John 5:3

Not all of the law of Moses was nailed to the cross either like love God with all our hearts and love neighbor.

Anyway, wasn’t excepting us to agree. Take care and wish you well.
 
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The Ten Commandments was not nailed to the cross, they are not ordinances, not handwritten, not contrary, but holy, righteous and good Romans 7:12 and not grievous. 1 John 5:3

Not all of the law of Moses was nailed to the cross either like love God with all our hearts and love neighbor.

Anyway, wasn’t excepting us to agree. Take care and wish you well.
God's holy, righteous and good commandments are against us in that "all who rely on observing them are under a curse" (Gal 3:10), for
"no one will be declared righteous by observing the law; rather through the law we become conscious of sin" (Ro 3:20), for
"all righteousness is from God, apart from law" (Ro 3:21, Ro 1:17, Php 3:9).
 
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God's holy, righteous and good commandments are against us in that "all who rely on observing them are under a curse" (Gal 3:10)
Apparently you have a misunderstanding on the Law of God. Gal 3:10 is not referring to the Ten Commandments. Deut 31:24-26

We are blessed when keeping the commandments, not cursed. Being reconciled with God should be our ultimate goal, so that is not a curse.

Revelation 22:14 Blessed (not cursed) are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.

The wages of sin is death, the curse is the condemnation of the law, not the law itself which is perfect Psalms 19:7 and you cannot improve on perfection.
"no one will be declared righteous by observing the law; rather through the law we become conscious of sin" (Ro 3:20), for
Amen. The law points out sin so we know what not to do, thank you God for showing us the narrow path.
"all righteousness is from God, apart from law" (Ro 3:21, Ro 1:17, Php 3:9).
Absolutely, all righteousness comes from God and all of His commandments are righteous Psalms 119:172 (the right thing to do). Our righteousness can’t save us, we are only saved by Jesus and a saved person lives differently than an unsaved person.

Romans 6:16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.

Keeping the law is a result of faith. Romans 3:31

Which has nothing to do with the post you are responding to, that the Ten Commandments are nailed to the cross or somehow Jesus suddenly became one of the Ten Commandments, that God said we can’t add or subtract from. Deut 4:2
 
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Apparently you have a misunderstanding on the Law of God.
Could it be you have an inadequate understanding on the word of God in Ro 1:17, Ro 3:20-21, Gal 3:10, Php 3:9?
 
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Could it be you have an inadequate understanding on the word of God in Ro 1:17, Ro 3:20-21, Gal 3:10, Php 3:9?
They’re always the possibility but that would include yourself of the same.

If we love God, we keep His commandments Exodus 20:6, John 14:15 1 John 5:3

It seems like an easy choice, yet so many people struggle with this.
 
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They’re always the possibility but that would include yourself of the same.
Then it falls to you to Biblically demonstrate that inadequate understanding.

Assertion without Biblical demonstration is assertion without merit.
 
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