Why did McCarthy Give Tucker Carlson Exclusive Access to J6 Footage?

[rjs330]

I guess you missed my prior post documenting how Trump colluded with Russia. And then handing out pardons to cover his tracks.

Guess you missed the part where Mueller didn't find anything. I'm not going to read some conspiracy theory nonsense.

The only person that colluded with Russia was Clinton.

 

[Arcangl86]

Guess you missed the part where Mueller didn't find anything. I'm not going to read some conspiracy theory nonsense.

The only person that colluded with Russia was Clinton.

He found plenty. He didn't find enough to sustain a charge of conspiracy, but that's not the same thing as not finding anything.

 

[Hans Blaster]

And what’s your argument here?
You just copied and pasted a a snippet of a Wikipedia page. Was there something’s specific that you wanted to address, if so, how do we know which?

There's no argument. It's just "what-about-ism". The malfeasance of any other reporter or media figure does not lessen the lies of Tucker Carlson.

 

[USincognito]

For the people who went into the Capital, what was their goal? What did they think their presents was going to cause to happen?

Why do people protest? Is protesting now something bad? Is it now a terrible thing to protest? Are Americans not allowed to protest an election and demand that investigations be done to assure that the election was lawful? Is that somehow an evil thing now?

Responding to a question with questions is not the same as answering that question. Can you just answer their question?

 

[USincognito]

I'm sure that if the left had video of this many doing anything violent.. we would have seen it .... ad nausium.

What a bizarre statement. Apart from the fact that conservatives are acting like gaslighting insurrectionist apologists, this has nothing to do with politics. The video of red hats engaged in Medieval combat has been around for years It was literally being aired the day of the insurrection. In December 2021, DOJ released this THREE HOUR video of insurrectionists attacking police in an effort to enter the Capitol. THREE HOURS!

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/24/politics/january-6-video-capitol-hill-riot/index.html

Only one person died during the event... of a gun shot wound. The others were all natural causes not due to any violence.

Come on man. This is the sort of sloppy thinking that results in things like "Chansley prayed for police! He did nothing wrong." Babbitt was killed, there were two heart attacks and Rosalyn Boyland OD'ed on speed.

I think your assuming her intent... without evidence. That is called speculation.

Actually we know full well her intentions. She made numerous videos where she ranted like a maniac. She rammed her car into that off another woman who was involved in some love quadrangle. She had serious anger issues. There's no question that she had ill intent.

Ashli Babbitt a martyr? Her past tells a more complex story

Former President Donald Trump and his supporters have sought to portray the woman who was shot by a police officer during the Jan. 6 Capitol riot as a righteous martyr who was unjustly killed. But the life of the 35-year-old Air Force veteran from California, Ashli Babbitt, was far more...

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The first time Celeste Norris laid eyes on Ashli Babbitt, the future insurrectionist had just rammed her vehicle three times with an SUV and was pounding on the window, challenging her to a fight.​

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Norris says the bad blood between them began in 2015, when Babbitt engaged in a monthslong extramarital affair with Norris’ longtime live-in boyfriend. When she learned of the relationship, Norris called Babbitt’s husband and told him she was cheating.​

More importantly, for all those claiming she's a martyr, she was Security Forces in the Air Force. If she spent time protecting aircraft she would have shoot to kill orders. She knew better. She knew that being at the vanguard of a mob and climbing through the busted out window of a barricaded door to the Speakers Lobby while a police officer held a gun on her could cost her her life.

She climbed through anyway.

That is on video.. one news caster stating that he should have been shot..

Steve Schmidt isn't a newscaster. He's a former Republican political strategist who worked on the Bush and McCain campaigns.

 

[USincognito]

Sure, if Chansley had been by himself, then yes, he could easily have been taken into custody. However, there were 2,500 other rioters along with Chansley.

Carlson showed approximately 4 minutes of the encounter ....with the audio conveniently turned off.

And the time stamps removed.

Ray is just another anomaly in this entire mess.... However, the crowd knew.. When he was instigating and persuading people to go "in" to the capitol... the crowd started chanting "FED, FED, FED, FED"... They were there.. I wasn't.

That was the night before. Again, are you really suggesting that the III%ers, who were wearing body armor, were just going to happily march arm in arm and sing songs in praise of Donald until they heard Svengali Ray Epps speak the evening of the 5th after which they drove home to get their body armor? Seriously? At this point the effort to make Epps a thing is just embarrassing.

 

[USincognito]

Not going to argue with you because you don’t know what you’re talking about and it will just be a waste of time

So the insurrectionists chanting "hang Mike Pence" were just being silly willies? They didn't really mean it? The insurrectionists prowling the House side of the Capitol shouting "where's Nancy?" were doing it on a lark? Zip tie guy had no intention of binding anyone and only brought them because he thought it made him look cool?

 

[USincognito]

Apparently you missed the videos of police opening the doors and letting them in.

Probably because they don't exist

They weren't trying to overthrow the government. That's a false narrative. I know you believe it with all your heart a a you are entitled to do so.

That's partially and technically correct. The insurrectionists wanted the government in place on Jan 6th 2021 to remain in power despite losing the 2020 election and being due to leave office at noon on the 21st.

But in the scheme of things? If they were there to really overthrow the government they would have needed a greater organization, weapons and a plan.

There was a plan. More accurately there were several plans. Since the Oathkeepers have gone to trial and been convicted, I'll mention theirs.

Oath Keepers leader regretted not having guns on Jan. 6, prosecutors say at seditious conspiracy trial

During opening arguments Monday, the Justice Department played a recording of Stewart Rhodes saying his group "should have brought rifles" to the Capitol.

www.nbcnews.com

The Justice Department alleges that Rhodes and members of his organization plotted to oppose the peaceful transfer of power, stockpiling guns in "quick reaction forces" just outside of D.C. that could be brought into the city at a moment's notice. Rhodes' lawyers have noted that he followed D.C.'s strict gun laws, which they say is an indication that he would have only acted upon an order from then-President Donald Trump. But the audio recording and other evidence prosecutors presented Monday suggest that Rhodes planned to disrupt certification of the presidential election regardless of what Trump said.

“My only regret is that they should have brought rifles,” Rhodes said in a recording from Jan. 10 played by the government. He added that they could’ve “fixed it right then and there” if they had weapons with them at the Capitol.​

So sick of the double standard.

Just imagine how we feel about the denial of what actually happened that day.

 

[rjs330]

Responding to a question with questions is not the same as answering that question. Can you just answer their question?

I did. You missed it. To protest. Protesting is not illegal. How they protested was.

 

[rjs330]

So the insurrectionists chanting "hang Mike Pence" were just being silly willies? They didn't really mean it? The insurrectionists prowling the House side of the Capitol shouting "where's Nancy?" were doing it on a lark? Zip tie guy had no intention of binding anyone and only brought them because he thought it made him look cool?

You have that many people gathering in one location you WILL have some real crazies. Just like in the BLM protests. It's should be expected and come as no surprise. I don't know what the zip tie guy was going to do. Maybe he was trying to look intimidating. Maybe he was planning on holding someone hostage. I'm not surprised there was someone there acting like that. Like I said there are always nut jobs around. Just like there are nut jobs in just about every large protest. So what.

And no I don't believe for a second they were going to hang Mike Pence.

 

[rjs330]

Except they

Probably because they don't exist

Except they do.

 

[rjs330]

There was a plan. More accurately there were several plans. Since the Oathkeepers have gone to trial and been convicted, I'll mention theirs.

Like I said they had no plan, no weapons and no organization.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Like I said they had no plan, no weapons and no organization.

A jury found them guilty of seditious conspiracy. They did have a plan, they did have weapons (nearby) and they did organize (conspire).

According to the evidence at trial, in the months leading up to January 6, these defendants and their co-conspirators plotted to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power, including by amassing an armed “quick reaction force” on the outskirts of the District of Columbia. The defendants – Roberto Minuta, 38, of Prosper, Texas; Joseph Hackett, 52, of Sarasota, Florida; David Moerschel, 45, of Punta Gorda, Florida; and Edward Vallejo, 64, of Phoenix, Arizona – were leaders and associates of the Oath Keepers organization. In addition to the seditious conspiracy count, all four were found guilty of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of an official proceeding, and conspiracy to prevent Members of Congress from discharging their official duties. Hackett was also found guilty of destruction of evidence.

 

[SimplyMe]

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You have that many people gathering in one location you WILL have some real crazies. Just like in the BLM protests. It's should be expected and come as no surprise. I don't know what the zip tie guy was going to do. Maybe he was trying to look intimidating. Maybe he was planning on holding someone hostage. I'm not surprised there was someone there acting like that. Like I said there are always nut jobs around. Just like there are nut jobs in just about every large protest. So what.

And no I don't believe for a second they were going to hang Mike Pence.

Except that part of the evidence that has come out is how the Proud Boys, planning the Jan 6 "protest," complete with guns, were in contact with various close advisors of Trump, such as Roger Stone and Michael Flynn.

 

[SimplyMe]

Except they

Except they do.

Sorry, that doesn't fit what you are claiming. The officer is holding the door open for people that are leaving. Yes, he does not attempt to stop people who caught the door after a group left -- as has been explained, because of the number of protestors, the Capitol Police focused on keeping the protest peaceful and largely orderly. They feared what might happen if the crowd became violent, because of how badly outnumbered they were, and which could have easily happened if they tried to block other protestors or tried to arrest protestors.

Regardless, the video does not show a capitol policemen holding the door and waving them in -- it shows him at an interior door, holding it open for people who were leaving, and not stopping people who came in through an outer door where others were leaving.

 

[rjs330]

He found plenty. He didn't find enough to sustain a charge of conspiracy, but that's not the same thing as not finding anything.

Thank you for your opinion.

 

[NxNW]

And no I don't believe for a second they were going to hang Mike Pence.

Trump's tweet was to motivate them to do so.

 

[rjs330]

Four?

A jury found them guilty of seditious conspiracy. They did have a plan, they did have weapons (nearby) and they did organize (conspire).

According to the evidence at trial, in the months leading up to January 6, these defendants and their co-conspirators plotted to oppose by force the lawful transfer of presidential power, including by amassing an armed “quick reaction force” on the outskirts of the District of Columbia. The defendants – Roberto Minuta, 38, of Prosper, Texas; Joseph Hackett, 52, of Sarasota, Florida; David Moerschel, 45, of Punta Gorda, Florida; and Edward Vallejo, 64, of Phoenix, Arizona – were leaders and associates of the Oath Keepers organization. In addition to the seditious conspiracy count, all four were found guilty of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of an official proceeding, and conspiracy to prevent Members of Congress from discharging their official duties. Hackett was also found guilty of destruction of evidence.

Four? We had four guys? They didn't have weapons. There was no real plan. And they weren't very organized.

This is what counts for January 6 to be the worst thing ever? These guys were the ones you are so afraid of?

There are a few guys and they were the ones supposed to be they big dangerous people who were going to take over the government? What a joke. They are a joke.

 

[Say it aint so]

Then Rather was given a lifetime achievement award.

Good for him.

 

[Say it aint so]

If you can’t figure it out I probably can’t help you. There was this piece at the bottom: CNN and Fox have accused each other of lying. CNN's long history of pushing disinformation, here are five examples

Good Lord. That's FOXnews talking about in example, CNN refusing to cover Hunter Biden's laptop, when in reality FOX also refused to publish the initial story for the same reason.