Why did McCarthy Give Tucker Carlson Exclusive Access to J6 Footage?

[JacksBratt]

Give it a rest. She wasn't killed in cold blood, nor was she shot in the neck. She was shot in the left shoulder. She disobeyed a direct order from a police officer and was breaching through a barricaded window.

Shoulder.... Neck......I heard it was the neck... but you're right.. shoulder... However, she was a female, unarmed, shot by a male, police officer... I'm sure that he needed to discharge his firearm in fear of what?

He was cleared of it though.

From: How Many Died as a Result of Capitol Riot? - FactCheck.org

The press release said the Justice Department’s investigation “revealed no evidence to establish that, at the time the officer fired a single shot at Ms. Babbitt, the officer did not reasonably believe that it was necessary to do so in self-defense or in defense of the Members of Congress and others evacuating the House Chamber.”

 

[BPPLEE]

Shoulder.... Neck......I heard it was the neck... but you're right.. shoulder... However, she was a female, unarmed, shot by a male, police officer... I'm sure that he needed to discharge his firearm in fear of what?

He was cleared of it though.

From: How Many Died as a Result of Capitol Riot? - FactCheck.org

The press release said the Justice Department’s investigation “revealed no evidence to establish that, at the time the officer fired a single shot at Ms. Babbitt, the officer did not reasonably believe that it was necessary to do so in self-defense or in defense of the Members of Congress and others evacuating the House Chamber.”

It was completely unnecessary. The standards for the use of deadly force were not met.

 

[JacksBratt]

I'm sorry, there is zero evidence (and some counter evidence) to suggest that Ray Epps had anything to do with the FBI, that is one of those Right Wing talking points that people have latched onto to justify what happened at the Capitol. And before you bring up that the FBI refused to comment on whether he was a "plant" is because that is FBI policy -- the Republican Congresspeople asked the question knowing that is how the FBI had to answer, and they could spin that answer into "see, they won't comment because he was."

Of course, this is exactly why the FBI won't comment on these types of things, because if they deny every time, except when someone is a "plant," then you very quickly can learn who is a plant. So, answering that they won't comment means absolutely nothing. The "evidence" we have on Ray Epps is his own testimony, under oath, that he was not an FBI informant (or "plant").

Last, as for why he hasn't been charged, what law did he break? Are you saying that he should be arrested based on things he said (speech)?

Ray is just another anomaly in this entire mess.... However, the crowd knew.. When he was instigating and persuading people to go "in" to the capitol... the crowd started chanting "FED, FED, FED, FED"... They were there.. I wasn't.

Hopefully this will all be brought to light.

 

[JacksBratt]

You mean the 45 seconds of highly edited video that Tucker showed he wasn't being violent? Shocking!
I don't think anyone has claimed he was violent. He was an agitator, he ignored police requests for him to leave and he criminally obstructed an official proceeding however.

I'm sure that if the left had video of this many doing anything violent.. we would have seen it .... ad nausium.

That is just embarrassing. As @essentialsaltes showed, he was bragging to his nephew. Again, and I don't know why this is so hard for apologists to grasp, we have thousands of messages posted to social media showing red hats had plans to enter the Capitol. Four Oathkeepers have been convicted of seditious conspiracy.

Four Oath Keepers Found Guilty of Seditious Conspiracy Related to U.S. Capitol Breach

Four members of the Oath Keepers were found guilty today by a jury in the District of Columbia of seditious conspiracy and other charges for crimes related to the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.

www.justice.gov

The former leader of the Proud Boys pled guilty to seditious conspiracy.

Former Leader of Proud Boys Pleads Guilty to Seditious Conspiracy for Efforts to Stop Transfer of Power Following 2020 Presidential Election

A former leader of the Proud Boys pleaded guilty today to seditious conspiracy for his actions before and during the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. His and others’ actions sought to stop the transfer of power by disrupting a joint session of the U.S. Congress convened to ascertain...

www.justice.gov

1000+ people have been charged with various crimes relating to the events on January 6th

Not a single one of them has used "Ray Epps made me do it" as a defense.

Four people died during the insurrection. That's a deadly insurrection by anyone's definition. No one claimed that Officer Sicknick was murdered in the Capitol on January 6th however. That is Tucker's dishonest historical revisionism.

Only one person died during the event... of a gun shot wound. The others were all natural causes not due to any violence.

 

[JacksBratt]

She was shot while violently trying to break through a window and murder elected officials.

I think your assuming her intent... without evidence. That is called speculation.

 

[Aldebaran]

It was completely unnecessary. The standards for the use of deadly force were not met.

Correct!
The standard for using deadly force is that a perpetrator must show the ability, the opportunity, and the intent to cause substantial bodily harm or death to another. An unarmed female clearly didn't have that ability since she was unarmed and weighed a mere 110 Lbs. Didn't have the opportunity since she was on the other side of the door, and certainly did nothing to show an intent.
But it would seem that in the interest of painting Trump supporters as villains, the cop was cleared of any wrongdoing.
Cops serving at the Capitol--the building declared by some to be sacred, and the seat of democracy itself, should be held to at least the normal standard for the requirements of using deadly force when they kill people.

 

[JacksBratt]

He tried to stop the electoral vote from going to Biden.

Your contention that "the left wanted him shot" is counter-factual - perhaps a projection of your own fury towards "the left".

That is on video.. one news caster stating that he should have been shot..

But you trust Donald John?

Way way way more than Mitch.

 

[BPPLEE]

Correct!
The standard for using deadly force is that a perpetrator must show the ability, the opportunity, and the intent to cause substantial bodily harm or death to another. An unarmed female clearly didn't have that ability since she was unarmed and weighed a mere 110 Lbs. Didn't have the opportunity since she was on the other side of the door, and certainly did nothing to show an intent.
But it would seem that in the interest of painting Trump supporters as villains, the cop was cleared of any wrongdoing.
Cops serving at the Capitol--the building declared by some to be sacred, and the seat of democracy itself, should be held to at least the normal standard for the requirements of using deadly force when they kill people.

The standards are ability, opportunity, jeopardy and preclusion. You have already explained ability and opportunity. Jeopardy means would a reasonable person believe their life was in jeopardy and they or another person could be killed or crippled. Preclusion means there was nothing else that could have been done. The main consideration is “Was it reasonable?”

 

[Arcangl86]

It was completely unnecessary. The standards for the use of deadly force were not met.

What are the Capital Police Use of Force standards?

 

[Bradskii]

It's still a serious issue. Very serious because you should NOT behave in such a fashion in an orderly society. It's foolish and unproductive. And if you participated you should be prosecuted.

Well, you got your wish. 1000 and counting I believe.

 

[Pommer]

CNN controversies - Wikipedia. Be sure to click on allegations of bias and individuals. Also see. MSNBC controversies - Wikipedia. And don’t forget Brian Williams, Dan Rather, Chris Coumo and Don Lemon

Weak sauce.

 

[Pommer]

How much time did he get for that?

Four years but was voted out in November 2020.

 

[Aldebaran]

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He didn't make anyone do anything. If he was a puppetmaster pulling peoples' strings and making them do things, he would be in jail instead of others. However, nobody has been able to prove he made anyone do anything, even after they've tried for years to do so.

 

[essentialsaltes]

U.S. fires back at claim that Tucker Carlson footage was withheld​

Prosecutors say video of Jacob Chansley and other defendants was fully provided to defense in 2021​

At media outlets’ request, prosecutors also made public footage that connects Chansley more directly to rioting than the brief clip aired on Carlson’s program. In two videos released Monday, and played in court in 2021, Chansley can be seen surging through a door moments after Pezzola is seen using a stolen police shield to smash a Capitol window to access the building. And an earlier video shows Chansley among a powerful mob that overran a group of Capitol Police officers outside the building.

 

[Bradskii]

Anyone else notice a slow slide from 'they weren't guilty 'cos...Tucker Carlson's 4 minutes of video. I mean, police were opening doors!' to 'Hey, it wasn't an insurrection 'cos...well it just wasn't.'

 

[Belk]

CNN controversies - Wikipedia. Be sure to click on allegations of bias and individuals. Also see. MSNBC controversies - Wikipedia. And don’t forget Brian Williams, Dan Rather, Chris Coumo and Don Lemon

Contraversies are not lies. If you believe no organization stumbles into controversies I have a bridge to sell you.

 

[BPPLEE]

Contraversies are not lies. If you believe no organization stumbles into controversies I have a bridge to sell you.

Evidently you didn’t click on the links. And both Dan Rather and Brian Williams were caught lying

 

[Say it aint so]

Evidently you didn’t click on the links. And both Dan Rather and Brian Williams were caught lying

Rather did a retraction given his bad source. Williams was demoted. It's the least news medias can do, well, some of them.

 

[BPPLEE]

Rather did a retraction given his bad source. Williams was demoted. It's the least news medias can do, well, some of them.

Then Rather was given a lifetime achievement award.

 

[Belk]

Evidently you didn’t click on the links. And both Dan Rather and Brian Williams were caught lying

I did. I skimmed them as well. Did the two people who lied escape without consequence?