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The smallest known particle is the quark, which is a fundamental building block of matter. Quarks are subatomic particles that combine to form protons and neutrons, which are in turn the building blocks of atoms.

The concept of "smallest" is a bit tricky when it comes to particle physics. Particles can be thought of as both waves and particles, and their properties can vary depending on how they are observed and measured.

The Bible is a bit tricky because the Word of God can be literal or symbolic. There are people who do not understand what paradigms, archetypes and allegories are.

The Bible is filled with hidden meaning and messages that seem to be beyond the ability of many people to understand. Even the letters of our alphabet were symbols before they became letters.
 

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There are no hidden messages in The Bible and creation accounts, descriptions are straight forward literal accounts and descriptions. Unless the context warrants the description or account to be read and understood otherwise.

Example this is a straight forward literal account of an event that happened.

Then Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel:

“Sun, stand still over Gibeon;
And Moon, in the Valley of Aijalon.”
So the sun stood still,
And the moon stopped,
Till the people had revenge
Upon their enemies.


Is this not written in the Book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day. And there has been no day like that, before it or after it, that the Lord heeded the voice of a man; for the Lord fought for Israel.

Then Joshua returned, and all Israel with him, to the camp at Gilgal.
 
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Non sequitur.
Only for those who do not believe the Bible has hidden meaning and understanding that God does not reveal to people that do not seek Him with a pure heart and a desire to understand and know the truth.
 
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There are no hidden messages in The Bible and creation accounts
The message is hidden with the prophets. God spoke to Moses in a plain clear language.

Numbers 12:8 With him I speak face to face, clearly and not in riddles; he sees the form of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?”

Exodus 33:11
Thus the LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend.
 
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Only for those who do not believe the Bible has hidden meaning and understanding
Not true in the slightest.

Deuteronomy 4:2 "Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you."

Have you even read the Bible?
 
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The smallest known particle is the quark, which is a fundamental building block of matter. Quarks are subatomic particles that combine to form protons and neutrons, which are in turn the building blocks of atoms.

The concept of "smallest" is a bit tricky when it comes to particle physics. Particles can be thought of as both waves and particles, and their properties can vary depending on how they are observed and measured.

The Bible is a bit tricky because the Word of God can be literal or symbolic. There are people who do not understand what paradigms, archetypes and allegories are.

The Bible is filled with hidden meaning and messages that seem to be beyond the ability of many people to understand. Even the letters of our alphabet were symbols before they became letters.

So tell us how does this relate to the Eightfold Way?
 
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So tell us how does this relate to the Eightfold Way?
I do not have a problem with Religion. But to be a Child of God you have to be born again and the power of God has to be at work in us and in our life. There are people that do have a problem with religion because terrorism is a religion. Most everyone should be able to figure out that we are to do good to others and not harm them. Even Jesus teaches that we are to love our enemy. Even if we just read, learn, study and follow the sermon on the mount.
 
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Have you even read the Bible?
I have read every word in the Bible AT LEAST five times. I have studied the Bible for OVER 40 years. Even there was a time I would read 12 hours a day. I once read the whole Bible in three months. We do not need man to teach us. We have the Holy Spirit for our Teacher and Guide.
 
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Not true in the slightest.
I am just quoting scripture. You are entitled to interpret those scriptures any way you want. That is between you and God and has nothing to do with me.
 
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I am just quoting scripture. You are entitled to interpret those scriptures any way you want. That is between you and God and has nothing to do with me.
Pointless thread, then.
 
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Pointless thread, then.
You have to have two points to establish eternity. In this case, we are talking about the literal and the allegory or symbolic interpretation of the Bible.
 
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The message is hidden with the prophets. God spoke to Moses in a plain clear language.

Numbers 12:8 With him I speak face to face, clearly and not in riddles; he sees the form of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid to speak against my servant Moses?”

Exodus 33:11
Thus the LORD would speak to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend.
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The revelation has been given, of what God at this time in history, wants man to know about God and the past and future events. There are simply no hidden messages in The Bible. If you think there are, then you are misunderstanding the area of The Bible you are getting this idea from.
 
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There are simply no hidden messages in The Bible.
I am just quoting the scripture that says riddles. You can interpret that word anyway you want. Whatever works out best for you. As for mysteries. You are correct they are not hidden to us that believe. But they are hidden to the non believers. That is why we are told: "to them it is not given'. So it should not be a surprise to us that they do not understand the Bible. That understanding has not been given to them.

Ephesians 1:9

Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
 
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Having a beginning and and end is the opposite of eternity.
Yes, that is why we have quantum physics. WE live in a temporal world that is a dichotomy. God is a singularity and He is eternal. The point I was trying to make is that a point does not have to end a line BUT you have to have two points to make a line. I was a draftsman before computers so we know about that stuff. Even back in the days when we actually made blue prints from our original.
 
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The point I was trying to make is that a point does not have to end a line BUT you have to have two points to make a line.
Having two points to make a line? What does that have to do with anything?
 
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I am just quoting the scripture that says riddles. You can interpret that word anyway you want. Whatever works out best for you. As for mysteries. You are correct they are not hidden to us that believe. But they are hidden to the non believers. That is why we are told: "to them it is not given'. So it should not be a surprise to us that they do not understand the Bible. That understanding has not been given to them.

Ephesians 1:9

Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

You prove my point by singling out a verse and using it to fit what you believe.

If the verse is used in accordance with the context it can be seen that this is not speaking about hidden messages in The Bible. But about what is known in The Bible as a mystery, which in The Bible is something not reveled in the past but which is now made known.

Which this is addressing The Church, where Jews and Gentiles are together in one body. Which was a mystery in The Tanakh, but has now been made known.
having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself,

that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth—in Him. In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, that we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory.
 
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I do not have a problem with Religion. But to be a Child of God you have to be born again and the power of God has to be at work in us and in our life. There are people that do have a problem with religion because terrorism is a religion. Most everyone should be able to figure out that we are to do good to others and not harm them. Even Jesus teaches that we are to love our enemy. Even if we just read, learn, study and follow the sermon on the mount.

So you don't want to talk about hadrons then? Oh well.
 
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So you don't want to talk about hadrons then? Oh well.
Don't know much about them. My brother is Buddhist and he uses that in his psychology. It would take GPT to show a connection between Buddism and Hadrons. This would suggest that a Buddhist approach would give us some insight into the behavior of Hadrons. I am sure my son would say that we do not have all the information so that makes them difficult to predict. But you should already know that.

Buddhism emphasizes the interdependent nature of all things and the impermanence of phenomena. These concepts are also relevant to the study of hadrons and other subatomic particles, as they are constantly in flux and are affected by a wide range of factors. By taking a holistic and interconnected approach to the study of physics, scientists may be able to deepen their understanding of the underlying nature of the universe.
 
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