Why did McCarthy Give Tucker Carlson Exclusive Access to J6 Footage?

[Bradskii]

No, not ignoring anything. Just happy more information is coming out to determine who did what. I have not seen anyone here (certainly not myself) have desired those guilty not face the penalty. Some (perhaps even most) just went their to protest.

Which you seem not to realise is illegal if it involves entering the Capitol.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Whoever sprayed a Police Officer with bear spray should be the one sentenced to four years (at least)

I think Hans has already mentioned that *that* guy got 80 months.

 

[BPPLEE]

Which you seem not to realise is illegal if it involves entering the Capitol.

If the Capital Police hold the door open for you it shouldn’t be illegal and it’s no problem if you sneak in and remain unlawfully as long as you’re Stephen Colbert’s camera man and crew.

 

[Isilwen]

Yep, this looks non-violent in the first video... would those who say it was peaceful want this to happen to their kid?

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/18/1008...ence-against-police-at-the-jan-6-capitol-riot

 

[Bradskii]

If the Capital Police hold the door open for you it shouldn’t be illegal and it’s no problem if you sneak in and remain unlawfully as long as you’re Stephen Colbert’s camera man and crew.

It's illegal. Period. Everyone who was in the Capitol on that day knew they were breaking the law. Officials trying to defuse the situation and avoid a violent confrontation doesn't change that. And in any case 'Hey, look - someone opening a door for a few guys' is completely and utterly missing the point that this affront to democracy even took place at all. And that the videos that Fox have shown you are edited to show you exactly what you want to see. They are playing their viewers for fools. You are being taken for a ride by people who have admitted in zoom calls, texts and emails that they aren't interested in telling you the truth.

That you grant any validity to anything they have shown you is completely beyond my understanding.

 

[ralliann]

Whoever sprayed a Police Officer with bear spray should be the one sentenced to four years (at least)

Yep, but as we can see, now the purpose and content of this thread is being given another narrative.

 

[ralliann]

It's illegal. Period. Everyone who was in the Capitol on that day knew they were breaking the law. Officials trying to defuse the situation and avoid a violent confrontation doesn't change that. And in any case 'Hey, look - someone opening a door for a few guys' is completely and utterly missing the point that this affront to democracy even took place at all. And that the videos that Fox have shown you are edited to show you exactly what you want to see. They are playing their viewers for fools. You are being taken for a ride by people who have admitted in zoom calls, texts and emails that they aren't interested in telling you the truth.

That you grant any validity to anything they have shown you is completely beyond my understanding.

That will come out if true. You should look forward to it then. No need to try it, by speculation here on the net.

 

[BPPLEE]

It's illegal. Period. Everyone who was in the Capitol on that day knew they were breaking the law. Officials trying to defuse the situation and avoid a violent confrontation doesn't change that. And in any case 'Hey, look - someone opening a door for a few guys' is completely and utterly missing the point that this affront to democracy even took place at all. And that the videos that Fox have shown you are edited to show you exactly what you want to see. They are playing their viewers for fools. You are being taken for a ride by people who have admitted in zoom calls, texts and emails that they aren't interested in telling you the truth.

That you grant any validity to anything they have shown you is completely beyond my understanding.

@Bradskii said “That you grant any validity to anything they have shown you is completely beyond my understanding.” My feelings exactly about all the news organizations that reported that a Capital Police Officer was killed with a fire extinguisher.

 

[BPPLEE]

Yep, but as we can see, now the purpose and content of this thread is being given another narrative.

Why is there not the same condemnation of the BLM riots in which many more Police Officers were assaulted, there was 1 to 2 billion in property damage and people actually died?

 

[Bradskii]

@Bradskii said “That you grant any validity to anything they have shown you is completely beyond my understanding.” My feelings exactly about all the news organizations that reported that a Capital Police Officer was killed with a fire extinguisher.

That can be put down to sloppy journalism. Or a simple mistake by someone passing on information that wasn't correct. But Fox and Carlson are deliberately lying to you. And actually admitting to that fact. So if you take issue with newspaper that may have reported that officer's injury, why in heaven's name are you trusting a news organisation where so many of then, including the owner, ADMIT that they lie to you.

You are obviously trying to denigrate anyone who is telling you what you don't want to hear and treating what others tell you as entirely valid and those who give you that info as trustworthy simply because that's what you want to hear.

I simply cannot fathom this. I honestly can't.

 

[ralliann]

Why is there not the same condemnation of the BLM riots in which many more Police Officers were assaulted, there was 1 to 2 billion in property damage and people actually died?

You know quite honestly that was a major thing in my mind when I seen what happened. I thought what they were doing was bad, but the lack of caring about violence has encouraged people to engage in that. Actually that is an aspect of a set up. Why would they think what they were doing was going to be looked at like that? All summer long we watched worse, much worse being ignored. It was very mild compared to that. So, who would have thought? That is why I myself thought why it happened, because it had become the norm.

 

[Bradskii]

Why is there not the same condemnation of the BLM riots in which many more Police Officers were assaulted, there was 1 to 2 billion in property damage and people actually died?

That's an entirely different matter. If you want to discuss that then start a thread and give some evidence to back up your claims. But it's not logically possible to connect any lack of condemnation by anyone of some other riot and say that what's being shown here is somehow wrong. You have a monstrous amount of videos that show the violence on Jan 6. One posted just above this. And you instead take a few minutes of carefully edited footage (with date stamps removed) that show nothing of importance whatsoever, put together by an self-confessed untrustworthy 'news' organisation and say the one entirely counteracts the other.

That is simply bizarre.

 

[BPPLEE]

That can be put down to sloppy journalism. Or a simple mistake by someone passing on information that wasn't correct. But Fox and Carlson are deliberately lying to you. And actually admitting to that fact. So if you take issue with newspaper that may have reported that officer's injury, why in heaven's name are you trusting a news organisation where so many of then, including the owner, ADMIT that they lie to you.

You are obviously trying to denigrate anyone who is telling you what you don't want to hear and treating what others tell you as entirely valid and those who give you that info as trustworthy simply because that's what you want to hear.

I simply cannot fathom this. I honestly can't.

Since when am I an apologist for Carlson or Fox? I said Carlson acknowledged the violence and condemned it but I am not here to defend Carlson or Fox. You have me confused with someone else.

 

[BPPLEE]

That's an entirely different matter. If you want to discuss that then start a thread and give some evidence to back up your claims. But it's not logically possible to connect any lack of condemnation by anyone of some other riot and say that what's being shown here is somehow wrong. You have a monstrous amount of videos that show the violence on Jan 6. One posted just above this. And you instead take a few minutes of carefully edited footage (with date stamps removed) that show nothing of importance whatsoever, put together by an self-confessed untrustworthy 'news' organisation and say the one entirely counteracts the other.

That is simply bizarre.

You haven’t been following my posts. You are just making assumptions and lumping me in with others

 

[Bradskii]

Since when am I an apologist for Carlson or Fox? I said Carlson acknowledged the violence and condemned it but I am not here to defend Carlson or Fox. You have me confused with someone else.

I'm not suggesting that you are defending them in some way. I am questioning why you trust them. They admit they don't tell you the truth. But all your posts in this thread are based on snippets of video that they have edited. And we have it in writing, their own admissions, that they show you what you want to hear and not what actually happened.

 

[Bradskii]

You haven’t been following my posts. You are just making assumptions and lumping me in with others

I've read all the posts. All of yours. You are continually trying to lessen the culpability of those involved in Jan 6 and you have been using the Fox videos to do so.

 

[BPPLEE]

I'm not suggesting that you are defending them in some way. I am questioning why you trust them. They admit they don't tell you the truth. But all your posts in this thread are based on snippets of video that they have edited. And we have it in writing, their own admissions, that they show you what you want to hear and not what actually happened.

As if CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC and especially MSNBC don’t do the same thing? Really? Who is being naive? You attribute the false narrative of a Police Officer being beaten to death by a fire extinguisher to an innocent mistake, but I’m the one who’s been deceived? Remember Dan Rather? Brian Williams?

 

[ralliann]

You haven’t been following my posts. You are just making assumptions and lumping me in with others

It is a narrative people want to push.
I just want people punished for such crimes. I don't want people railroaded for crimes they did not commit, And I think it is very possilble if not likely some have been railroaded. Antifa, blm, and Jan 6 protestors. PERIOD.

 

[ralliann]

I've read all the posts. All of yours. You are continually trying to lessen the culpability of those involved in Jan 6

No, he sees video SO FAR which does not match with the narrative.

and you have been using the Fox videos to do so.

NOBODY here has any power to lessen culpability, Nor do those video's give anyone here the ability to do so. This forum is not a courtroom, and as far as I can see those who want more information Are not desiring to treat an internet forum like some courtroom. It is just discussion about new information, with people disagreeing on what they believe they add.
But as many other things (violence being ignored), trial by public opinion has become the norm.

 

[Pommer]

If the Capital Police hold the door open for you it shouldn’t be illegal and it’s no problem if you sneak in and remain unlawfully as long as you’re Stephen Colbert’s camera man and crew.

Which official proceeding were the Colbert people trying to halt?