Georgia has opened (ETA: criminal) investigation into Trump's election meddling and 'find me votes'

[NxNW]

"Working in a foreign country" isn't the same as getting millions for a "job" he was clearly unqualified for

Is there and sort of limit on how much someone can get paid for working?

Sounds anti-capitalist to me.

 

[Aldebaran]

How was he not qualified for it? Because he had no "oil and gas experience?" Again, go look at the board of directors of Exxon Mobile -- the largest oil company on the planet -- and show me how all the board members have "oil and gas experience." This is a false herring put out by political hacks, most of whom should know that it is false.

And, again, the Republican controlled Senate Homeland Security committee had investigations into Hunter in 2020 and found no evidence of any wrongdoing or "influence peddling," or that Joe Biden had any part in any of these activities by Hunter Biden (either in Ukraine or China). The most they could claim in their report is "it didn't look good," as they tried to score political points against candidate Joe Biden (the report coming out less than two months before the election).

What you also ignore is the fact that Trump's children often had government positions, such as Jared Kushner; so tell me, why did the Saudi Crown Prince -- after being involved politically with Jared -- overrule a Saudi-owned companies decision not to give money to Kushner's company and order them to give $2 billion. You don't think that looks much worse than a kid trading of his father's name (which the Trump children have also done).

You're simply trotting out multiple whataboutisms to distract from biden's actions.

 

[Hans Blaster]

You're simply trotting out multiple whataboutisms to distract from biden's actions.

You have this backward. Anything about any Biden in a thread about the criminal investigation into 2020 Georgia election meddling by Trump et al. IS A DISTRACTION.

 

[perplexed]

You're simply trotting out multiple whataboutisms to distract from biden's actions.

Why not really prove that by actually answering the question

 

[SimplyMe]

You're simply trotting out multiple whataboutisms to distract from biden's actions.

*Looks at thread title* I think you have that backwards, you are the one that trotted out whataboutisms. I merely showed the flaws in your whataboutism and, with no valid response, you accused me of the very thing you are doing.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Any bets on who the lying witnesses were?

"In ordering the report’s partial release, McBurney said grand jurors did not identify any of those witnesses, allowing for that section of the report to be released publicly."

Boo! Boooooo, I say.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Any bets on who the lying witnesses were?

I'm going to guess that the set of lying witnesses and the set of witnesses that fought subpoenas have a Venn diagram that looks like an annular solar eclipse.

 

[DaisyDay]

"Working in a foreign country" isn't the same as getting millions for a "job" he was clearly unqualified for, raising the distinct possibility that the payments were more for influence than for a job-well-done.

Ivanka sought and received benefits from China while visiting as her father's senior advisor, while he was in office. Trump sought and was refused a favor (removing windmills from within sight of his Scottish golf course). Trump benefited from foreign dignitaries and Republican supplicants staying at his hotel. Trump made money every time he stayed at Mar-A-Lago from charging the Secret Service for room and board; Eric falsely claimed that they were only charged "cost" but that was not borne out in the receipts. He made money from staffers and such at all his resorts. He made some military stay at his Irish resort even when it would have been cheaper and more convenient at a non-Trump owned property.

 

[essentialsaltes]

READ: Fulton County grand jury releases report on Trump and the 2020 election​

"We find by a unanimous vote that no widespread fraud took place in the Georgia 2020 presidential election"

[Under a heading of VIII.]
"A majority of the Grand Jury believes that perjury may have been committed by one or more witnesses testifying before it. The Grand Jury recommends that the" DA seek indictments.

Not much there. On the plus side, I suppose, that means the DA must still be considering indictments and is serious enough that the judge isn't releasing any more information.

 

[KCfromNC]

I'm going to guess that the set of lying witnesses and the set of witnesses that fought subpoenas have a Venn diagram that looks like an annular solar eclipse.

Also a close match to the witnesses that the prosecutors are hoping to flip in exchange for plea deals, one might imagine.

 

[perplexed]

I think Fox news has a new way of discussing voter fraud, it still writes a biased article with major omissions in the main text , but it has started to actually make the court transcript available , I assume this an attempt to get some legal protection

Parts of Trump Georgia grand jury report are released, suggesting possible witness perjury

A special grand jury in Fulton County, Georgia, is recommending that prosecutors pursue criminal charges against witnesses accused of committing perjury during their investigation into Donald Trump's actions during the 2020 presidential election.

www.foxnews.com

The article does include the full text of the grand jury report so technically it is informing the public of the following
"The Grand Iury heard extensive testimony on the subject of alleged election fraud from poll workers, investigators, technical experts, and State of Georgia employees and officials, as well as from persons still claiming that such fraud took place We find by unanimous vote that no widespread fraud took place in the Georgia 2020 presidential election that could result'1n overturning that election"

 

[essentialsaltes]

Let's see how this ages. I certainly thank the grand jury and am very proud of them.

 

[wing2000]

Let's see how this ages. I certainly thank the grand jury and am very proud of them.

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...he probably believes that.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Inside the Trump grand jury that probed election meddling​

During a lengthy recent interview, [foreman Emily] Kohrs complied with the judge’s instructions not to discuss details related to the jury’s deliberations.

But she dished on other topics. Maybe the most significant was an uncooperative witness becoming more cooperative after prosecutors offered them immunity right in front of the jurors.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Inside the Trump grand jury that probed election meddling​

During a lengthy recent interview, [foreman Emily] Kohrs complied with the judge’s instructions not to discuss details related to the jury’s deliberations.

But she dished on other topics. Maybe the most significant was an uncooperative witness becoming more cooperative after prosecutors offered them immunity right in front of the jurors.

I've seen quite a bit of her interview with NBC and I think we should expect to see a case titled:

State of Georgia
v.
Donald John Trump

It's not really hard to read between the lines.

 

[Tuur]

Inside the Trump grand jury that probed election meddling​

During a lengthy recent interview, [foreman Emily] Kohrs complied with the judge’s instructions not to discuss details related to the jury’s deliberations.

But she dished on other topics. Maybe the most significant was an uncooperative witness becoming more cooperative after prosecutors offered them immunity right in front of the jurors.

I just got wind of some of the "dishing out" today. She may well have crossed the line. Even if she didn't, she may well have damaged any case the prosecutor brings. As one person pointed out, the best thing she could have done for the case would have been keeping her mouth shut.

 

[essentialsaltes]

I've seen quite a bit of her interview with NBC and I think we should expect to see a case titled:

But what if Charlie Kirk has her burned as a witch first?

“I saw a clip of her this morning and as soon as I saw it, I said, ‘Oh wow, they have a Harry Potter girl running Trump’s grand jury,'” Kirk said. “There is a culture that was created, especially with millennials, where they got super obsessed about Harry Potter and they talk a certain way and they giggle a certain way.”

“She thinks she’s a witch…And it turns out that my suspicion actually was totally and completely correct. We found her Pinterest page, the Harry Potter girl’s Pinterest page,” Kirk exclaimed.

After explaining a few of her previous media appliances, Kirk elaborated on the research he found on Kohrs’ Pinterest page.

“She posts on her social media page about herbs, about casting a circle — demonic circles, how to cast spells. Not a joke. This is all on her social media page. She actually is a witch. She’s into witchcraft,” Kirk said.

 

[Aldebaran]

But what if Charlie Kirk has her burned as a witch first?

“I saw a clip of her this morning and as soon as I saw it, I said, ‘Oh wow, they have a Harry Potter girl running Trump’s grand jury,'” Kirk said. “There is a culture that was created, especially with millennials, where they got super obsessed about Harry Potter and they talk a certain way and they giggle a certain way.”

“She thinks she’s a witch…And it turns out that my suspicion actually was totally and completely correct. We found her Pinterest page, the Harry Potter girl’s Pinterest page,” Kirk exclaimed.

After explaining a few of her previous media appliances, Kirk elaborated on the research he found on Kohrs’ Pinterest page.

“She posts on her social media page about herbs, about casting a circle — demonic circles, how to cast spells. Not a joke. This is all on her social media page. She actually is a witch. She’s into witchcraft,” Kirk said.

At least they picked the best fore-person they could find.

 

[Tuur]

At least they picked the best fore-person they could find.

What usually happens is that juries pick someone willing to do it. I convinced jurors of the last one I was on not to make me foreman. My only qualification was I had been on a jury before.

 

[Hans Blaster]

From her interview: She volunteered and no one else was interested.