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Mother's Regret Transitioning Children

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A lesbian couple raised two boys following the gender neutral ideology with letting the boys decide if they were boys or girls. As the boys grew older one of them started demanding to know what he was and he was told he could decide if he was a boy or a girl. The boy then decided he wanted to be a girl. His decision affected his younger brother who then decided he wanted to be a girl. They then transitioned the boys including changing their names.

Eventually the mother's realized that what they did was harming the children and they informed the boys they were boys, not girls and de-transitioned them. The de-transition was a bit challenging, but the boys are now thriving and doing very well being the sex they were born as. This is part of what she said.
The boys, now eight and nine, are now "happy and thriving," she said. But Rose said she still lives with regrets about the harm she inflicted on them and may have continued to inflict, if she and her "partner" had not radically changed their approach to parenting.

"When I look back at this, it is almost too much to write about," she stated. "The grief and the shock of what we did is so deep, so wide, so sharp and penetrating. How could a mother do this to her child? To her children? I truly believed that what I was doing was pure, right and good, only to later realize with horror what it could have lead to for my child.

"This horror still shakes me to my core," she said.

 

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What strikes me in this is the mother's admittance that she fell for the whole transgender ideology. She had friends who fully supported the ideology and encouraged her to leave everyone behind who did not support their decisions for the children. She stated.

It was a decision that still "continues to haunt" her, she claimed. When her older son was three or four, he began demanding answers about his gender, but she and her "partner" insisted that he could choose. "I was leading my innocent, sensitive child down a path of lies that were a direct on-ramp to psychological damage and life-long irreversible medical intervention," she admitted. "All in the name of love, acceptance, and liberation."

"This experience for me has felt like leaving a cult, a cult that would have me sacrifice my child to the gods of gender ideology, in the name of social justice and collective liberation," Rose wrote. "I have left this cult, and I am never turning back."

Just another story on how we should not being doing this or teaching this to children.
 
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A lesbian couple raised two boys following the gender neutral ideology with letting the boys decide if they were boys or girls. As the boys grew older one of them started demanding to know what he was and he was told he could decide if he was a boy or a girl. The boy then decided he wanted to be a girl. His decision affected his younger brother who then decided he wanted to be a girl. They then transitioned the boys including changing their names.

Eventually the mother's realized that what they did was harming the children and they informed the boys they were boys, not girls and de-transitioned them. The de-transition was a bit challenging, but the boys are now thriving and doing very well being the sex they were born as. This is part of what she said.
The boys, now eight and nine, are now "happy and thriving," she said. But Rose said she still lives with regrets about the harm she inflicted on them and may have continued to inflict, if she and her "partner" had not radically changed their approach to parenting.

"When I look back at this, it is almost too much to write about," she stated. "The grief and the shock of what we did is so deep, so wide, so sharp and penetrating. How could a mother do this to her child? To her children? I truly believed that what I was doing was pure, right and good, only to later realize with horror what it could have lead to for my child.

"This horror still shakes me to my core," she said.

Wow a completely anonymous and unverifiable story presented on a podcat that has been censored many times by You tube for hate speech and inciting violence against minorities...well it MUST be 100% true.
 
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This story sound like conservative made up nightmare, that's not a reality. Why would parents tell healthy boys . That they can decide to be transgender girl. Why encourage something that the boys didn't care about as young boys? Typically transgender females or male. Show signs of being transgender. It doesn't have to forced on them and shouldn't be.
 
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This story sound like conservative made up nightmare, that's not a reality. Why would parents tell healthy boys . That they can decide to be transgender girl. Why encourage something that the boys didn't care about as young boys? Typically transgender females or male. Show signs of being transgender. It doesn't have to forced on them and shouldn't be.
Well remember these were LESBIAN mothers and that means that they are automatically bad and abusive parents
 
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A lesbian couple raised two boys following the gender neutral ideology with letting the boys decide if they were boys or girls. As the boys grew older one of them started demanding to know what he was and he was told he could decide if he was a boy or a girl. The boy then decided he wanted to be a girl. His decision affected his younger brother who then decided he wanted to be a girl. They then transitioned the boys including changing their names.

Eventually the mother's realized that what they did was harming the children and they informed the boys they were boys, not girls and de-transitioned them. The de-transition was a bit challenging, but the boys are now thriving and doing very well being the sex they were born as. This is part of what she said.
The boys, now eight and nine, are now "happy and thriving," she said. But Rose said she still lives with regrets about the harm she inflicted on them and may have continued to inflict, if she and her "partner" had not radically changed their approach to parenting.

"When I look back at this, it is almost too much to write about," she stated. "The grief and the shock of what we did is so deep, so wide, so sharp and penetrating. How could a mother do this to her child? To her children? I truly believed that what I was doing was pure, right and good, only to later realize with horror what it could have lead to for my child.

"This horror still shakes me to my core," she said.

I think parents should tell their children what they are according to biology (if they don't know).

Children are very impressionable and introducing the transgender aspect is something they really can't comprehend at a young age ... much less how it may or may not effect their lives.

Because transgender is being taught at such a young age ..... parents need to be in constant communication with their children of what the children are thinking about it and discuss it openly. Also, in order to do this ... parents should be given by any school system exactly what is being taught (a copy of all teaching materials at all grade levels) about the matter enabling the parents to better communicate with their children.

At some point a child may want to experience the transgender life style but they should be the ones to bring it up.

Like I said .... needs to be constant communication going on child/parent.
 
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This story sound like conservative made up nightmare, that's not a reality. Why would parents tell healthy boys . That they can decide to be transgender girl. Why encourage something that the boys didn't care about as young boys? Typically transgender females or male. Show signs of being transgender. It doesn't have to forced on them and shouldn't be.
Unfit parents do all kinds of crazy things to their kids. And the current trans craze isn't founded in reason or logic, it's founded on the desire to bring forth as many trans people as possible as young as possible.
 
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Well remember these were LESBIAN mothers and that means that they are automatically bad and abusive parents
It easily could mean they're heavily into the LGBTQQIP2SAA+ movement and wanted their kids to be part of the alphabet soup.
 
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It easily could mean they're heavily into the LGBTQQIP2SAA+ movement and wanted their kids to be part of the alphabet soup.
Or, more likely, it is a fake story created to push the manufactured outrage of certain groups
 
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Or, more likely, it is a fake story created to push the manufactured outrage of certain groups

What's more important now days is how stories are being manipulated through social media and algorithms to generate outrage to serve wider political agendas.

You can always find a black swan event somewhere, but if I have one black swan, that doesn't mean all swans are black..
 
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It easily could mean they're heavily into the LGBTQQIP2SAA+ movement and wanted their kids to be part of the alphabet soup.

I think you are spot on here. What the parent had to say is very telling. She totally bought into the radical leftist narrative, which was proposed by a sick twisted perverted activist in the 1950s which was kids were gender neutral. They were not boys or girls. His theory was proved wrong but people still follow it.

This woman did too and fortunately recognized how damaging it was going to be for the kids before it was too late.
I don't necessarily blame her. She too was victim of sorts.

It doesn't mean she was a bad parent just cause she was lesbian. There are heterosexual parents who have done the same thing.

She made a mistake and thankfully was a good enough parent to correct it and has spoken out about it.
 
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I have a suspicion that this woman is too afraid to make herself known. She's probably very concerned about what the transactivists would do to her and her family. The attacks would immense. I don't mean physically, just a lot of threats from them and doxing, phone calls etc. Harassment would be horrible. And I'm sure that there would be those on the right who would do the same because she's a lesbian raising kids. She would get it from both sides.
 
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I think you are spot on here. What the parent had to say is very telling. She totally bought into the radical leftist narrative, which was proposed by a sick twisted perverted activist in the 1950s

Ascribing the worst possible motives to people we disagree with is uncharitable, and it's needlessly judgemental.

which was kids were gender neutral. They were not boys or girls. His theory was proved wrong but people still follow it.

If anything, John Money's research showed that gender identity is relatively inflexible, and resists attempts to change it (even though he believed it was possible initially, as he was working with children with mild intersexed conditions or surgical trauma, from what I recall). It doesn't support your conclusion.
 
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I have a suspicion that this woman is too afraid to make herself known. She's probably very concerned about what the transactivists would do to her and her family. The attacks would immense. I don't mean physically, just a lot of threats from them and doxing, phone calls etc. Harassment would be horrible. And I'm sure that there would be those on the right who would do the same because she's a lesbian raising kids. She would get it from both sides.

There are a few people on Youtube, mostly female-to-male, that discuss their detransition stories. They are still a tiny minority. They don't receive appreciable amounts of hate from the trans community, from what I've seen, quite the opposite. Most trans people I've known see their transitions as very private and see gender transition as an individual matter, and not casually undertaken.
 
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Ascribing the worst possible motives to people we disagree with is uncharitable, and it's needlessly judgemental.



If anything, John Money's research showed that gender identity is relatively inflexible, and resists attempts to change it (even though he believed it was possible initially, as he was working with children with mild intersexed conditions or surgical trauma, from what I recall). It doesn't support your conclusion.
No Money believed that children's gender was based upon nurture and not nature. And proposed his theory as the answer to intersex kids. He even attempted to prove his theory with the Reimer twins.

Here's a bit of wat happened

David’s twin brother, Brian, served as the ideal control because the brothers had the same genetic makeup, but one was raised as a girl and the other as a boy. Money continued to see David and Brian for consultations and check ups annually.

During these check-ups, Money would force the twins to rehearse sexual acts and inspect one another’s genitals. On some occasions, Money would even photograph the twins doing these exercises. Money claimed that childhood sexual rehearsal play was important for healthy childhood sexual exploration.

David also recalls receiving anger and verbal abuse from Money if they resisted participation. Money (1972) reported on Reimer's progress as the "John/Joan case" to keep the identity of David anonymous. Money described David’s transition as successful.

He claimed that David behaved like a little girl and did not demonstrate any of the boyish mannerisms of his twin brother Brian. Money would publish this data to reinforce his theories on gender fluidity and to justify that gender identity is primarily learned.

In reality, though, David was never happy as a girl. He rejected his female identity and experienced severe gender dysphoria. He would complain to his parents and teachers that he felt like a boy and would refuse to wear dresses or play with dolls.

And THIS is the guy that invented gender ideology. And people still follow it today as if he was right.
 
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I'm not defending all aspects of Money's research, or his ethics, but the experience of David Reimer is evidence that gender identity is not malleable, that people cannot simply be forced to conform to a gender and expecting a corresponding change in their gender identity.
 
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There are a few people on Youtube, mostly female-to-male, that discuss their detransition stories. They are still a tiny minority. They don't receive appreciable amounts of hate from the trans community, from what I've seen, quite the opposite. Most trans people I've known see their transitions as very private and see gender transition as an individual matter, and not casually undertaken.

Well here is an article, which supports the trans community, but advised that de-transitioners are harassed by the ver community they were a part of for de-transitioning.



From the article.

Unfortunately, some people who discuss their detransition on social media are met with suspicion, blame, mockery, harassment, or even threats from within the LGBTQ communities in which they previously found refuge. Some trans-rights advocates have likened detransitioners to the ex-gay movement or described them as anti-trans grifters. In fact, many detransitioners continue to live gender-nonconforming and queer lives. No one benefits from the anger and suspicion that gender-care issues currently inspire. Detransitioners who face social rejection, coupled with shame and isolation, may come to view anti-trans activists as their only allies—even when those activists portray them negatively, as damaged goods rather than as human beings who have survived medical trauma.
 
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I think you are spot on here. What the parent had to say is very telling. She totally bought into the radical leftist narrative, which was proposed by a sick twisted perverted activist in the 1950s which was kids were gender neutral. They were not boys or girls. His theory was proved wrong but people still follow it.

This woman did too and fortunately recognized how damaging it was going to be for the kids before it was too late.
I don't necessarily blame her. She too was victim of sorts.

It doesn't mean she was a bad parent just cause she was lesbian. There are heterosexual parents who have done the same thing.

She made a mistake and thankfully was a good enough parent to correct it and has spoken out about it.
I bet the kids are carrying baggage from the experience though. Also I'm not in favor of same sex couples raising kids. I think it's healthiest for kids to have a biological male father and a biological female mother. That's how God designed it to be.

Another bad family set up is the trans male who gives birth. So the kid ends up with this unnatural combination of having a masculine father, who's also his mother. And I suppose the female looking mother on the right is really a man. There's nothing natural or normal or healthy about this.

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Well here is an article, which supports the trans community, but advised that de-transitioners are harassed by the ver community they were a part of for de-transitioning.



From the article.

Unfortunately, some people who discuss their detransition on social media are met with suspicion, blame, mockery, harassment, or even threats from within the LGBTQ communities in which they previously found refuge. Some trans-rights advocates have likened detransitioners to the ex-gay movement or described them as anti-trans grifters. In fact, many detransitioners continue to live gender-nonconforming and queer lives. No one benefits from the anger and suspicion that gender-care issues currently inspire. Detransitioners who face social rejection, coupled with shame and isolation, may come to view anti-trans activists as their only allies—even when those activists portray them negatively, as damaged goods rather than as human beings who have survived medical trauma.

You can't overly generalize about a community based on social media. Social media is a dumpster fire in many ways right now, and doesn't represent reality.
 
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