Flood Geology

[dlamberth]

As do I.



That is correct.

They were creatio ex materia.

That's how I view Evolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

That's how I view Evolution.

That's how I view creatio ex materia.

 

[Astrid]

From something heard a decade or so ago,
when babies/little children are taught starting with words like "millions of years ago",
so they believe it not knowing better,

and they grow up still believing it not knowing better,
for those babies now grown up, is it a conspiracy or better called something else? some other kind of deception ?

You are projecting religious indoctrination

 

[Hans Blaster]

From something heard a decade or so ago,
when babies/little children are taught starting with words like "millions of years ago",
so they believe it not knowing better,

It's "Billions and Billions" (Sagan, 1980) and it is backed by enormous amounts of evidence. That's what I learned four decades ago.

and they grow up still believing it not knowing better,
for those babies now grown up, is it a conspiracy or better called something else? some other kind of deception ?

So you want them indoctrinated with false information? We could discuss the actual evidence, if you want.

 

[dlamberth]

From something heard a decade or so ago,
when babies/little children are taught starting with words like "millions of years ago",
so they believe it not knowing better,

and they grow up still believing it not knowing better,
for those babies now grown up, is it a conspiracy or better called something else? some other kind of deception ?

I see nothing wrong with our children learning the truth of the Earths billions of years age. Truth is not conspiracy or deception.

 

[doubtingmerle]

No, never, may it never be seen nor true that he or you or I ever question and doubt the Bible.

What about when the Bible says contradictory things? Don't you then need to question or doubt at least one of those verses? See Is the Bible Perfect? - .

 

[doubtingmerle]

God took me to the center of the universe when I was around 8 years old. We were there in just about an instant. Maybe it took two or three seconds.

Flapdoodle.

 

[Aaron112]

What about when the Bible says contradictory things? Don't you then need to question or doubt at least one of those verses? See Is the Bible Perfect? - .

Instead, see and follow , seek to know, Jesus.
Men have created a lot of problems. Jesus is the Savior.

 

[Astrid]

What about when the Bible says contradictory things? Don't you then need to question or doubt at least one of those verses? See Is the Bible Perfect? - .

Just change the interpretations till it all
lines up.

 

[Diamond72]

That's how I view creatio ex materia.

The universe began with hydrogen helium lithium and beryllium.

 

[Diamond72]

What about when the Bible says contradictory things?

There are no contradictions. I use to chase them down and check them out and found out there was nothing there in the way of a contradiction. None of them were ever substantiated.

 

[AV1611VET]

The universe began with hydrogen helium lithium and beryllium.

No, it didn't.

It was spoken into existence by a series of miracles that raised the level of mass/energy from zero to its current level over a six-day period.

 

[Astrid]

There are no contradictions. I use to chase them down and check them out and found out there was nothing there in the way of a contradiction. None of them were ever substantiated.

To your personal satisfaction.

 

[Diamond72]

Just change the interpretations till it all
lines up. To your personal satisfaction.

Yes, I am satisfied that there are no contradictions. I checked out a lot of them. The only one that is difficult is Noah's flood because Moses does say the Earth was flooded. But you do not see the word "ALL". Also, we see this is a reference to הָֽאֲדָמָ֗ה hā-’ă-ḏā-māh. This is a reference to Eden. We know that Eden is nowhere to be found today. Of course, all the animals in Eden were saved on the ARK. So they are all still around. We know from Science about biodiverse ecosystems. That is what Eden was. This was their food. If you want to save Noah, you have to save his food so he can eat. We know that civilization spread to the rest of the world. If it were not for Noah man would have had to go back to being a hunter-gather. Just like the native amerian indians were when we arrived in America.

 

[Diamond72]

No, it didn't.

Do you have a degree in astrophysics? Or do you just think you know more than the PhDs? Did you even read your high school science book or were you too busy with all the debates and arguments about how you know more than Science? Excuse me if I am skeptical of your claims.

The reason we know this is that every element burns at its own distinct individual color. The early universe is still there. The one you say God created a week ago. So it is no surprise that we can run the light through a spectrograph to see what elements are there.

If you have a microscope and you have a spectrograph and you would like to debate their finding, then show me what you got. God himself when I was around 8 years old, took me to the center of the universe in a dream. He showed me that the universe is expanding and at some point in time the universe will shrink or contract and it will all come back together again. It just so happens that what we learn from Science confirms what God already told us.

 

[Astrid]

Yes, I am satisfied that there are no contradictions. I checked out a lot of them. The only one that is difficult is Noah's flood because Moses does say the Earth was flooded. But you do not see the word "ALL". Also, we see this is a reference to הָֽאֲדָמָ֗ה hā-’ă-ḏā-māh. This is a reference to Eden. We know that Eden is nowhere to be found today. Of course, all the animals in Eden were saved on the ARK. So they are all still around. We know from Science about biodiverse ecosystems. That is what Eden was. This was their food. If you want to save Noah, you have to save his food so he can eat. We know that civilization spread to the rest of the world. If it were not for Noah man would have had to go back to being a hunter-gather. Just like the native amerian indians were when we arrived in America.

Difficult= there is always a way to
interpret the book to match any desire.

Slave holders in the USA found all they needed
to enoble their actions.

Setting out to find and accept only what
justifies a belief.

This behaviour elsewhere identified as a issue of intellectual intrgrity.

 

[Diamond72]

Difficult= you can always find d a way to
interpret the book to match any desire.

We see this with the infidels sometimes. We have to straighten their thinking out .

This is elsewhere identified as a issue of intellectual
intrgrity.

Is this a confession? Do you have a problem with intellectual integrity? I was reading a quote from Tesla. He said that everyone knows the truth. So we just need to be honest with ourselves. If we want to abide in the truth. Jesus tells us that you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free.

It is not up to me to convince you. I only need to convince myself. Some people believe that we judge ourselves. It is not up to anyone else to judge us. I hear the police will spend a lot of time trying to get a confession out of people. It is difficult to convict if the person is not willing to admit to what they have done.

 

[Diamond72]

Flapdoodle.

Half of the books in the Library are fiction and all of the programs on TV and at the Movie theater are fiction. So if you want to consider this to be a product of my imagination that is fine with me. No problem. Of course, if you're talking about a dream, as I was. Then that is subject to interpretation also. I have had dreams about the future and things I needed to avoid. But I did not understand the dream and how to properly apply it to my life. The last time this happened it cost me $2000 dollars. That is a little bit more Flapdoodle when I have a dream that they are going to empty out my wallet and it happens in real life.

 

[Hans Blaster]

The universe began with hydrogen helium lithium and beryllium.

No. It was far too hot for nuclei or even nucleons to exist. It took expansion and cooling before elements could form.

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you have a degree in astrophysics?

No.

Or do you just think you know more than the PhDs?

No.

Did you even read your high school science book ...

Yes.

... or were you too busy with all the debates and arguments about how you know more than Science?

No.

Excuse me if I am skeptical of your claims.

Get in line.

The reason we know this is that every element burns at its own distinct individual color.

So?

The early universe is still there.

It sure is: since 4004 BC.

The one you say God created a week ago.

I beg your pardon?

You must have me mixed up with someone else.

4004 BC did not come a week ago.

So it is no surprise that we can run the light through a spectrograph to see what elements are there.

Nice.

If you have a microscope and you have a spectrograph and you would like to debate their finding,

Science can take a hike.

... then show me what you got.

I got nothing.

And I present nothing.

It's called "ex nihilo" -- out of nothing.

Creationism is my forte, and I can debate it all day long.

God himself when I was around 8 years old, took me to the center of the universe in a dream.

Get the phone: it's Emmanuel Swendenborg.

He showed me that the universe is expanding ...

He showed me that too.

In the Bible.

And I didn't need to be taken there in a Dream State.

... and at some point in time the universe will shrink or contract and it will all come back together again.

Peter says otherwise.

Peter says it will melt with fervent heat.

It just so happens that what we learn from Science confirms what God already told us.

Some things yes.

Most things, no.