Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?

[rturner76]

Northeast...but whatever. It doesn't really matter what she was exposed to...she didn't teach my mom to be racist, she doesn't seem racist....what more do you want?

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No offense but now it doesn't sound very important at all. I thought all this time it was throwing people in jail unfairly and destroying their chances of being wealthy.

In fact, you just claimed it was responsible for our "class based society". This sounds like a big step away from that.

It's a factor of our classist society but it can be overcome.

I don't think I'd call illegal card games in pizzeria basements high places. When George Soros is filling your pockets and Wall Street has enough money for both sides, you don't even bother with dying organized crime groups that can't even hide a card game. There's no upside.

Why would a presidential candidate take money from some guy running a card game? It's only the upper echelon that gets access to the important players and even then they don't likely meet face to face.

If systemic racism is not "stopping people from doing anything," then it falls in significance down to any of a hundred other difficulties in life anyone could suffer. Being unattractive, for instance, is a greater problem than being black. Being very short for a man is a greater problem than being black...and so on.

It's a factor like being fat. It can surely be overcome but it is a factor.

I disagree. The way I see it, the white race controls nothing in this country; no race does this.

Take another look at who the CEOs are. 90+% white case closed.

That's explaining the limitations of the study.

Nowhere in the study does it say anything like "we believe this constitutes evidence of racial discrimination".


It does say that it shouldn't be considered evidence of discrimination.

It's not my fault you don't read the research you're posting or don't understand the limitations of what research can prove.

If they say "we know our judges don't dispense justice equally" the lawsuits and retrials would come out of the woodwork. The disparity remains.

25 simple charts to show friends and family who aren't convinced racism is still a problem in America

Research has extensively documented the differences between the Black and white experience in the US, from wealth and education to incarceration.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Ken-1122]

Take another look at who the CEOs are. 90+% white case closed.

CEO's are individual people; not the white race. Though mostly white, they only have control over the particular company they have been elected to run. Case reopened.

 

[Aaron112]

CEO's are individual people; not the white race. Though mostly white, they only have control over the particular company they have been elected to run. Case reopened.

I did not see "Case closed", "Case" at all, and don't know if Case is reopened or not.
CEO's may be individual people, but they are not restricted to having control only over the particular company they have been elected/or unelected/ to run.
With their peers, contacts, family, money and power,
they can have extensive control over entire towns, some cities,
even some countries. Some corporations make more than small countries, and have very very strong and wide influence and control over the chattel./people/ in most places, as designed.

 

[Aaron112]

If they say "we know our judges don't dispense justice equally" the lawsuits and retrials would come out of the woodwork. The disparity remains.

Likely disparity has always been, and always will be, in most countries , religions, regions, areas, corporations, and so forth.
That is the basic nature of mankind, i.e. not good.
Many people have said that judges don't dispense justice equally, in many times and places, and there are sometimes a lot of lawsuits and retrials I reckon, whenever money can be made or is being used to do so. This won't change.

 

[RDKirk]

It's a factor like being fat. It can surely be overcome but it is a factor.

Everything is a factor. But we don't expect equal outcomes in all those other factors. We don't expect there to be as many fat CEOs as slender CEOs. We're not going to pass any laws to ensure there are as many fat people in Harvard as slender people in Harvard.

 

[Aaron112]

thank you. Jim crow is history and I'm looking for modern day examples. Examples of oppression today.

There are examples every day it seems or for real, in local , national and world news. It is totally expected and 'normal' practice by men everywhere.
Why are you looking for more examples ?

 

[Aaron112]

We're not going to pass any laws to ensure there are as many fat people in Harvard as slender people in Harvard.

There were laws passed over the decades, that may have had the effect of more fat people being elected or chosen or given positions someplace political, educational, or corporate. May be just fear of lawsuits for discripmination against fat people that more are accepted or expected.
OR,
maybe just more fat people over all, due to so many unhealthy practices and bad medicine since wwI ?
I searched being curious for laws, but this came up ....
"Fat, Thin, Sick, Healthy | Harvard Medical Schoolhms.harvard.edu› news › fat-thin-sick-healthy
There’s general agreement that an overall decline in physical activity and greater availability of cheap, high-calorie foods are driving the increase in obesity that has alarmed much of the world.“However, if we live in an obesogenic environment, why isn’t everybody fat?” asked Stephen ..."

 

[rturner76]

Everything is a factor. But we don't expect equal outcomes in all those other factors. We don't expect there to be as many fat CEOs as slender CEOs. We're not going to pass any laws to ensure there are as many fat people in Harvard as slender people in Harvard.

You're right. I don't think we should pass laws to make sure blacks get a certain percentage of all the jobs. But I think it is a factor like all of the others. Some people just don't trust it or have stereotypical notions that affect their decisions. A determined person will overcome those obstacles. But I still think there are obstacles to be overcome.

The beautiful thing like you have often said is that it's getting better and better with each new generation. I just think there is still an oder in the air from the big dump that was dropped and sat there for 400 years. We flushed it but I think we need to light a match in the bathroom (so to speak).

 

[Aaron112]

I disagree. The way I see it, the white race controls nothing in this country; no race does this.

Maybe.
Maybe it is just who has the money.
oh, that would be white people..... very predominately at least in the usa.

 

[Aaron112]

The beautiful thing like you have often said is that it's getting better and better with each new generation.

Who says ? In 1945 a person could legally be treated and cured of diseases easily, within weeks usually.
After 1960, it was/is/ no longer legal in the usa.
Many thousand daily go to other countries for the cures available , and love it. But it might be 'nice' if they could stay in the usa and not have to go to other countries, eh ?

 

[Astrid]

CEO's are individual people; not the white race. Though mostly white, they only have control over the particular company they have been elected to run. Case reopened.

Racism is the only factor to consider.

There are no Filipino football players
in the USA. Lots of black.

Case. Closed.

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It's a factor of our classist society but it can be overcome.

Why would a presidential candidate take money from some guy running a card game? It's only the upper echelon that gets access to the important players and even then they don't likely meet face to face.

It's a factor like being fat. It can surely be overcome but it is a factor.

Take another look at who the CEOs are. 90+% white case closed.

If they say "we know our judges don't dispense justice equally" the lawsuits and retrials would come out of the woodwork. The disparity remains.

25 simple charts to show friends and family who aren't convinced racism is still a problem in America

Research has extensively documented the differences between the Black and white experience in the US, from wealth and education to incarceration.

www.businessinsider.com

All societies are "classist".

 

[Aaron112]

There are no Filipino football players
in the USA.

Changes happen daily.
"May 1, 2020 - Views From the Edge By Ed Diokno In the final day of the National Football League draft, two Filipino American college players were selected by professional football teams. On April 25, San Diego State center Keith Ismael was chosen with the 11th pick of the fifth round (156th overall) by ..."

 

[Aaron112]

Oh, even decades ago apparently:
The NFL's first Filipino-American quarterback's next challenge ...nbcnews.com› news › asian-america › nfl-s-first-filipino-american-quarterback-s-next-challenge-hall-n923811
November 1, 2018 - At 6'5", 220 pounds, Roman Gabriel was the tallest quarterback in the history of the NFL when he started playing in 1962.

 

[RDKirk]

Who says ? In 1945 a person could legally be treated and cured of diseases easily, within weeks usually.
After 1960, it was/is/ no longer legal in the usa.
Many thousand daily go to other countries for the cures available , and love it. But it might be 'nice' if they could stay in the usa and not have to go to other countries, eh ?

We were talking about racism. What are you talking about?

 

[Aaron112]

We were talking about racism. What are you talking about?

On second thought, is it not racist that rich white folk are able to buy/pay/get non-destructive health care if they want it, while poor other folk of any race are unable to ?

 

[Desk trauma]

On second thought, is it not racist that rich white folk are able to buy/pay/get non-destructive health care if they want it, while poor other folk of any race are unable to ?

What are you talking about?

 

[Astrid]

Changes happen daily.
"May 1, 2020 - Views From the Edge By Ed Diokno In the final day of the National Football League draft, two Filipino American college players were selected by professional football teams. On April 25, San Diego State center Keith Ismael was chosen with the 11th pick of the fifth round (156th overall) by ..."

So what's your complaint

 

[Astrid]

On second thought, is it not racist that rich white folk are able to buy/pay/get non-destructive health care if they want it, while poor other folk of any race are unable to ?

Try a third thought

 

[Ken-1122]

I did not see "Case closed", "Case" at all, and don't know if Case is reopened or not.
CEO's may be individual people, but they are not restricted to having control only over the particular company they have been elected/or unelected/ to run.
With their peers, contacts, family, money and power,
they can have extensive control over entire towns, some cities,
even some countries. Some corporations make more than small countries, and have very very strong and wide influence and control over the chattel./people/ in most places, as designed.

Not only is this claim absurd, but it has nothing to do with the question at hand. Again; what does this have to do with the claim that white people as a race control stuff in this country?

 

[Aaron112]

Try a third thought

Third thought: rich white folk control the world, finances, banks, medical protocols, education, etc etc etc ..... so poor cattle don't have a chance except for God's Free Grace Revealed to them.