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No. You are taking her wrong, and I think, on purpose. God chose "in keeping with", or "consistent with" his plan. Do you really need it spelled out for you?
Not a bad idea! I can't say it bothers me though, but yeah, like you said, clutter.
Maybe it’s just me but it seems like a it’s way to get people to try compete for higher stats or something. Like they’re trying to coax people into competing for stats.
It’s a reminder to us all and a good one. It’s just not easy to do sometimes.
I think I already answered that. The fact that @Clare73 there says that foreknowledge does not refer to God knowing others' actions, doesn't even begin to imply that she thinks God doesn't know others' actions.
Off topic, though, come to think of it. Or, is the new format posting this two places?
Off topic, though, come to think of it. Or, is the new format posting this two places?
Why does she make the point that the term "foreknowledge" in scripture does not refer to God knowing others' actions, but rather knowledge of his own actions? Because you, like so many others here, think that 'foreknowledge' refers to knowledge of what we are going to do, which somehow, rather circularly, you take to imply that he chooses what we are going to do by looking ahead in time to see what we are going to do —for example, to say that he elects us based on our decision and not on his own plans.
I disagree. You reference "he did choose us according to his plan from before the foundations of the world to choose us" and then in my rebuttal you say your point is not about predestination but about "grammatical construction". I am not a mind reader of unintelligible comments. When commenting (which you have done in over thousands of posts on this forum concerning a defence of Calvinism) you need to be specific. Even the newbies on this forum are specific - but not you. Its not the time to deflect proclaiming inocent ignorance (i.e my diatribe was about grammatical construction) as you frequently do - its time to say come out (Luke 4:35). Knock, knock.
You imply something she didn't say. You link to her post which says that the term, "foreknowledge", is about what He is going to do. She said nothing that means he does not also know ahead of time what is going to happen. She knows very well that he knows what we are going to do, and what is going to happen.
Your re-interpretation of what @Clare73 said is indeed circular, but that's not what she said.
Luke 13:6-9 does not contradict Calvinism. In fact, rather, it shows the work of the Spirit within the "Christian" (whether regenerated or not remains to be seen). In John 15:2 The vinedresser carries off the dead limbs, that bear no fruit. In Mark 4:5-6 the seed that fell on hard ground sprang up immediately, but dried out because it had no root. Sounds like Hebrews 6, doesn't it? So also in Luke 13:6-9: It does not say whether or not the special attention of digging around the plant and fertilizing it will bring fruit —that remains to be seen. If it continues to be fruitless, the plant will be cut down.
Ha! @Clare73 is not responsible to push something through your skull that you could make out easily enough, were you so inclined.
I'm not implying that she said God doesn't know ahead of time. Of course I didn't mean she meant that. I may have expressed myself clumpsy. I meant:
