Scientists announce a breakthrough in determining life's origin on Earth—and maybe Mars

[AV1611VET]

Do you not think that chimps, gorillas and humans were absolutely created separately by God?

Yes.

That this separate creation is an indisputable fact... therefore any degree of scientific evidence is irrelevant?

Yes.

So where do you get that I "made a comment about scientific evidence for the diversification of primates..."?

There is no scientific evidence for the diversification of primates (except on paper).

Thus a more accurate statement is: There is Biblical testimony for the diversification of primates.

 

[Frank Robert]

Connect the dots.

From a fish to a cat.

This is one of my favorite pictures:

Each one of those black lines underneath those pictures (blue lines on Richard Dawkin's video) glosses over hundreds and hundreds of missing links.

Just play connect-the-dots, and you can show evolution on paper.

The image is displaying that bonobos and chimpanzees are more closely related to humans than either of them are to the other two species of great apes: orangutans and gorillas.

 

[AV1611VET]

A fish does not become a cat or another mammal. Fish and mammals have a common ancestor.

So let me get this straight:

You can't make a fish hatch out cats in a laboratory so, if you want to show a fish-to-cat connection in evolution, you have to do it on paper, by drawing lines from this to this to this, etc.

Is that correct?

 

[AV1611VET]

Keep us laughing with your nonsense statements.

I'd say that statement is pretty correct.

You can't make a fish have cats in a laboratory.

I'll take it even further.

You can't make fish have coins in a laboratory.

(Jesus can though. And He can do it without a laboratory.)

Matthew 17:27 Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.

 

[Frank Robert]

So let me get this straight:

You can't make a fish hatch out cats in a laboratory so, if you want to show a fish-to-cat connection in evolution, you have to do it on paper, by drawing lines from this to this to this, etc.

Is that correct?

Almost correct. Exchange paper for fossil and molecular evidence.

The above is a good example on how organizations with an agenda, like DI and AIG mislead their readers with apologetics.

 

[AV1611VET]

The image is displaying that bonobos and chimpanzees are more closely related to humans than either of them are to the other two species of great apes: orangutans and gorillas.

Yes, I know.

 

[AV1611VET]

Exchange paper for fossil and molecular evidence.

You can only go so far with that, then you hit a missing link.

 

[Frank Robert]

You can't make a fish have cats in a laboratory.

Who is claiming that fish made cats? There are immoral actors who claim, with apologetics, to condition their readers that evolution is claiming cats are begotten by fish.

 

[Frank Robert]

You can only go so far with that, then you hit a missing link.

Every fossil was a missing link until it was found. The apologetics that you read purposely mislead by hiding simple facts.

 

[Shemjaza]

Yes.Yes.

So where do you get that I "made a comment about scientific evidence for the diversification of primates..."?

There is no scientific evidence for the diversification of primates (except on paper).

Thus a more accurate statement is: There is Biblical testimony for the diversification of primates.

Your little quip about missing links and diagrams about ape family trees.

It's usually with a screen shot of Dawkins, but it appears to be a new image.

By framing your comment to be about gaps or flaws in scientific evidence you are addressing science.

Also, the phrase:
There is no scientific evidence for the diversification of primates (except on paper).
is a lie.

You can claim that scientific evidence is a misinterpretation or a deception, but to claim it doesn't exist is simply false.

The evidence exists in the patterns of genes of living primates.


You are usually cracking jokes and strong in your faith... this Intelligent Design style word games and science claims are beneath you.

 

[driewerf]

You are welcome to prove a fish becomes a cat in a lab for me.

"A" fish becomes "A" cat?
Mister "Overall I am a science and math person. My favorite subjects in school were math and science and I usually made straight A's in both subjects." doesn't know that organisms don't evolve, but populations. Mister "Overall I am a science and math person. My favorite subjects in school were math and science and I usually made straight A's in both subjects" doesn't know that "fish" isn't a species, but 32.000 different species. Mister "Overall I am a science and math person. My favorite subjects in school were math and science and I usually made straight A's in both subjects" doesn't know that evolution works gradually, hence that what ever fish species were to evolve, it would be very similar to the mother species.

Give me a break.

 

[AV1611VET]

Who is claiming that fish made cats?

No one that I know of.

You CAN'T make fish have cats in a laboratory.

 

[AV1611VET]

Every fossil was a missing link until it was found.

Which only produces two more missing links.

Look at these two numbers:

1, 10

I can claim there should be eight more numbers between them, and make the following chart:

1 . . . . . . . . 10

Low and behold, someone discovers an 8.

So they put it -- wherever.

1 . . 8 . . . . . 10

Then they find a 4, so they make this:

1 . . 8 . . 4 . . 10

They they find it doesn't work out, so they fidget with it until it does work out.

Now they have:

1 . . 4 . . . 8 . 10

Eventually they hope to fill in these missing links with more discoveries.

Until then, they draw lines to make it look like this:

1__4___8_10

Now do that with the following, and you have evolution's connect-the-dots game.

1 - 1,000,000,000,000

 

[AV1611VET]

Your little quip about missing links and diagrams about ape family trees.

It's usually with a screen shot of Dawkins, but it appears to be a new image.

That's right.

It gets foistered on us all the time.

By framing your comment to be about gaps or flaws in scientific evidence you are addressing science.

I'll address science:

Science can take a hike.

Also, the phrase:
There is no scientific evidence for the diversification of primates (except on paper).
is a lie.

Then lay it out side-by-side.

Show every father and son and son and son and son from one genus to another.

Any genus -- take your pick.

I'll wait.

You can claim that scientific evidence is a misinterpretation or a deception, but to claim it doesn't exist is simply false.

So there are no missing links?

Everything has missing links.

There are missing links in my own family tree.

The evidence exists in the patterns of genes of living primates.

Patterns aren't links.

You are usually cracking jokes and strong in your faith...

Usually.

... this Intelligent Design style word games and science claims are beneath you.

Number One: the ID movement doesn't have a monopoly on my jokes.

Number Two: I'm not a cdesign proponentist.

Intelligent Design is Satan's cheap imitation for Creationism.

 

[Frank Robert]

Which only produces two more missing links.

Look at these two numbers:

1, 10

I can claim there should be eight more numbers between them, and make the following chart:

1 . . . . . . . . 10

Low and behold, someone discovers an 8.

So they put it -- wherever.

1 . . 8 . . . . . 10

Then they find a 4, so they make this:

1 . . 8 . . 4 . . 10

They they find it doesn't work out, so they fidget with it until it does work out.

Now they have:

1 . . 4 . . . 8 . 10

Eventually they hope to fill in these missing links with more discoveries.

Until then, they draw lines to make it look like this:

1__4___8_10

Now do that with the following, and you have evolution's connect-the-dots game.

1 - 1,000,000,000,000

More regurgitation of nonsense apologetics that are purposely meant to mislead by denying all sciences and evidence for evolution such as paleontology, geology, radiology and many other scientific fields.

 

[AV1611VET]

More regurgitation of nonsense apologetics that are purposely meant to mislead by denying all sciences and evidence for evolution such as paleontology, geology, radiology and many other scientific fields.

Fair enough.

The Bible has diversification of life being created over a six-day period, and that settles it.

Any other explanation is wrong.

There -- I'm not regurgitating anything.

How's that?

The Bible says it, that settles it.

 

[Frank Robert]

No one that I know of.

You CAN'T make fish have cats in a laboratory.

If no one is dying it, what is the purpose of the statement which has zero to do with evolution. You argument is really with the immoral people and their apologetics that use misleading statements about evolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

If no one is denying it, what is the purpose of the statement which has zero to do with evolution.

It exposes a sore spot with evolutionists, doesn't it?

They don't want to hear that truth, so they make it sound like it's a silly, redundant statement.

 

[Frank Robert]

Fair enough.

The Bible has diversification of life being created over a six-day period, and that settles it.

Any other explanation is wrong.

There -- I'm not regurgitating anything.

How's that?

The Bible says it, that settles it.

I have said before that a deity could have done that, yet the problem arises that there is no evidence of it in the natural world we live. Perhaps God purposely want to confuse us.

 

[Frank Robert]

It exposes a sore spot with evolutionists, doesn't it?

They don't want to hear that truth, so they make it sound like it's a silly, redundant statement.

You are not making sense. Just because there are nefarious people pushing the idea that a cat from a fish is evolution theory does not make it so. As I explained several times it is a blatant lie to deny the evolutionary mechanisms of common descent.

I have nothing against religious beliefs, only the people who take advantage of the beliefs to promote an agenda of bovine droppings.