Will unborn babies be Raptured out of the wombs of ungodly women?

[yeshuasavedme]

There is zero Pretrib theology here. Furthermore, the Book of Enoch is not Scripture. You can read anything you like into this, but the fact is, no Pretrib Theology exists before John Darby. There may be a few outlying beliefs similar to it, but as a developed theology it doesn't exist--certainly not as acknowledge by any substantial portion of the Church. It was always believed that Antichrist preceded the coming of Christ to destroy him. Please show me otherwise, rather than pointing me to nebulas readings that have no theological description.

Pretrib rapture taught by Enoch the prophet, chapter 50, and Enoch is Scripture, as in sacred, inspired writing. It is in the oldest known copy of Scriptures in the world.

Ethiopian Bible is oldest and most complete on earth


Source: ancient-origine.com
June 28, 2016
World’s first illustrated Christian Bible discovered at Ethiopian monastery

 

[Timtofly]

Because I never thought of it before today.

The Minister, Jennifer Mcclaire, who has a youtube channel, sometimes brings mixed messages. Why would people be so concerned about their children's future, or their children's children's future, if the Rapture is around the corner? It's like you hear both Jesus is coming soon and we are in the end times, and that there are actually going to be future generations. Most people will be killed in the book of Revelation from the persecutions on one hand, and God's judgments on the other. The generations lines may just be for a select few who make it through all that.

Also, it would also confirm the truth that would further confirm the pro-life side of the abortion debate. God recognizes life before it's born, therefore He will Rapture innocent life right from the womb, otherwise, if He only raptured children who are born, then that undermines the pro-life position with abortion if their lives mean less in terms of escaping judgment coming in the face of the Earth compared to those who are birthed.

Therefore, for theological consistency, we have to assume they would be Raptured too.

Most ungodly women already abort their babies, instant rapture to heaven.

"And woe unto them that are with child." Mathew 24:19

This will be a time of great tribulation for those pregnant who are left on the earth. Whatever happens to babies will not change. But no one just born will ever make it past 4 years of age. They will have to be removed from Adam's dead corruptible flesh just like every other soul. Until physical death relieves their pain and suffering, many will probably suffer worse than children of any other period of time, and children have always suffered in times of war.

 

[RandyPNW]

Pretrib rapture taught by Enoch the prophet, chapter 50, and Enoch is Scripture, as in sacred, inspired writing. It is in the oldest known copy of Scriptures in the world.

Ethiopian Bible is oldest and most complete on earth


Source: ancient-origine.com
June 28, 2016
World’s first illustrated Christian Bible discovered at Ethiopian monastery

No, there is no Pretrib Rapture Theology in the Book of Enoch. You would quote it, and show this, if it was true. It's too easy to just say it's so, as opposed to actually proving it. And no, Enoch is not Scripture. It may be quoted in Scripture, but it is not itself Scripture. You don't get to decide that.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

No, there is no Pretrib Rapture Theology in the Book of Enoch. You would quote it, and show this, if it was true. It's too easy to just say it's so, as opposed to actually proving it. And no, Enoch is not Scripture. It may be quoted in Scripture, but it is not itself Scripture. You don't get to decide that.

Yes, and if you were interested in truth you would read it for yourself, as I said it is chapter 50, and I gave a website where you can read it for free.
And I gave the link for seeing the oldest complete Bible among any Christian denominations, and that Bible dates back to the 4th or 5th century.
Yes, Enoch is Scripture, which means writing, and it is in "the" Bible, which means "collection of books" -deemed sacred/inspired.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

Timetofly said: "Most ungodly women already abort their babies, instant rapture to heaven".

That is not "the rapture" of the dead and living which is to come when psalm 50 and Isaiah 26: 19-20, and 27: 1-2 comes to pass.
all the clean souls of departed from the Adam flesh bodies wait in heaven, since the Atonement was finished, once for all (whosoever will), when Jesus took them from the compartment in Sheol below, to Paradise above, BUT all those souls, even infant souls, come from heaven, with Jesus, in the air (not to the land) to receive their raptured/elementally changed, physical bodies, just before all the righteous, clean souls alive on earth receive their elementally changed bodies and ascend to join them in the air. Isaiah 26: 19-21.

 

[RandyPNW]

Yes, and if you were interested in truth you would read it for yourself, as I said it is chapter 50, and I gave a website where you can read it for free.
And I gave the link for seeing the oldest complete Bible among any Christian denominations, and that Bible dates back to the 4th or 5th century.
Yes, Enoch is Scripture, which means writing, and it is in "the" Bible, which means "collection of books" -deemed sacred/inspired.

I have read it in the past, when dealing with similar subjects. There is nothing there. I wanted you to post precisely where you thought the Pretrib Theology was being taught. But you won't do that because you can't.

None of the following expressed a *theology* of Pretrib. You may try to read anything you want into it, but all is says is that at the same time two things happen: One, those who had died will be restored. And two, the righteous will be collected from these, which is considered "salvation."

There is nothing about escape from a period of Tribulation. Period.

1. In those days shall the earth deliver up from her womb, and hell deliver up from hers, that which it has received; and destruction shall restore that which it owes.

2. He shall select the righteous and holy from among them; for the day of their salvation has approached.

3. And in those days shall the Elect One sit upon his throne, while every secret of intellectual wisdom shall proceed from his mouth; for the Lord of spirits has gifted and glorified him.

Again, you may like to add Enoch to what is generally considered to be "Scripture." But most Christians do not.

 

[yeshuasavedme]

"yeshuasavedme, post: 76851421
"Pretrib rapture taught by Enoch the prophet, chapter 50, and Enoch is Scripture, as in sacred, inspired writing. It is in the oldest known copy of Scriptures in the world.

Ethiopian Bible is oldest and most complete on earth
Source: ancient-origine.com
June 28, 2016
World’s first illustrated Christian Bible discovered at Ethiopian monastery
Book of Enoch, chapter 50:
Pretrib rapture, change to glory, not secret. World sees it...
Randy won't see it, won't care, but anyone else who wishes to discuss it, think about it, prove it for themselves may look.
Messianic Prophecy and the Book of Enoch

 

[yeshuasavedme]

"yeshuasavedme, post: 76851421
"Pretrib rapture taught by Enoch the prophet, chapter 50, and Enoch is Scripture, as in sacred, inspired writing. It is in the oldest known copy of Scriptures in the world.

Ethiopian Bible is oldest and most complete on earth
Source: ancient-origine.com
June 28, 2016
World’s first illustrated Christian Bible discovered at Ethiopian monastery
Book of Enoch, chapter 50:
Pretrib rapture, change to glory, not secret. World sees it...
Randy won't see it, won't care, but anyone else who wishes to discuss it, think about it, prove it for themselves may look.
Messianic Prophecy and the Book of Enoch

Pretrib rapture taught in the Living Oracles.
Pretrib rapture shown in Psalm 50. Yeshua calls for the gathering of His people to be gathered to Him from the ends of heaven and from the earth below.
The dead bodies live again, regenerated, and clothe His people, before the tribulation and punishment of the wicked on earth is shown in Isaiah chapter 26:19 -27:2