Creation Date

[Astrid]

Still can't fit 430 years in there.

Does it ever seem to you as if a lot of people want to write the Bible themselves?

 

[AV1611VET]

Does it ever seem to you as if a lot of people want to write the Bible themselves?

Yes.

It's called séance science.

 

[BPPLEE]

Genesis 15:16 But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.

Four generations totaled 430 years back then.

Jacob → Levi → Kohath → Amram → Moses

Levi was 137 when he died.
Kohath was 133 when he died.
Amram was 137 when he died.
Moses was 120 when he died.

I stand corrected

 

[BPPLEE]

Does it ever seem to you as if a lot of people want to write the Bible themselves?

Well it seems I was wrong and you can fit 430 years in there.

 

[BPPLEE]

Kohath was Moses’ grandfather. Levi was Moses’ great grandfather’s. Exodus 6:16-18

It looks like I was wrong and with the lifespans you can fit 430 years in that period.

 

[AV1611VET]

I stand corrected

I applaud your honesty!

 

[Astrid]

It looks like I was wrong and with the lifespans you can fit 430 years in that period.

Dunno that it is right or wrong.
As we see so often, the Bible is routinely read to say
whatever someone feels inspired to find there.

 

[AV1611VET]

Dunno that it is right or wrong.
As we see so often, the Bible is routinely read to say
whatever someone feels inspired to see find there.

It's see FIT there -- not see FIND there.

 

[BPPLEE]

Dunno that it is right or wrong.
As we see so often, the Bible is routinely read to say
whatever someone feels inspired to see find there.

The Bible is 66 books by 40 different authors written over more than a thousand years. it is a testament to it's divine inspiration that you can find one consistent message throughout that all points to Jesus. With that many authors over that much time people are going to find things to disagree about, but the message of salvation is clear.

 

[Astrid]

The Bible is 66 books by 40 different authors written over more than a thousand years. it is a testament to it's divine inspiration that you can find one consistent message throughout that all points to Jesus. With that many authors over that much time people are going to find things to disagree about, but the message of salvation is clear.

So some say. The Jewish people wrote the first part, but they.
do t see it that way.
Then too, editing what goes in and what goes out x the constructive
interpreting I mentioned, it pretty much confirms or disproves
whatever one may fancy.
As a reading just a few cf posts illustrates.

 

[BPPLEE]

So some say. The Jewish people wrote the first part, but they.
do t see it that way.
Then too, editing what goes in and what goes out x the constructive
interpreting I mentioned, it pretty much confirms or disproves
whatever one may fancy.
As a reading just a few cf posts illustrates.

There are some things that are open to interpretation and that's why we have different denominations but if you study it as a whole the plan of salvation is clear.

 

[Astrid]

There are some things that are open to interpretation and that's why we have different denominations but if you study it as a whole the plan of salvation is clear.

Perhaps so.
It's a very long, strange, and convoluted way to lay out a "clear" plan.
None of it makes sense to me.

 

[AV1611VET]

It's a very long, strange, and convoluted way to lay out a clear plan.
None of it makes sense to me.

You just contradicted yourself.

Is it a clear plan? or does none of it make sense to you?

 

[BNR32FAN]

The Bible is 66 books by 40 different authors written over more than a thousand years. it is a testament to it's divine inspiration that you can find one consistent message throughout that all points to Jesus. With that many authors over that much time people are going to find things to disagree about, but the message of salvation is clear.

I would also add that in the Old Testament days anyone attempting to add to the Old Testament had to be able to support their claims by performing miracles. Any false attempts to add to sacred scripture was considered blasphemy and punishable by death.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

You just contradicted yourself.

Is it a clear plan? or does none of it make sense to you?

If you want to lay out a clear plan, a long, strange, and convoluted way that doesn't make sense is not the way to do it - capisce?

 

[AV1611VET]

If you want to lay out a clear plan, a long, strange, and convoluted way that doesn't make sense is not the way to do it - capisce?

You want a clear plan?

Here it is ...

1 John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

Nineteen one-syllable words.

No Latin phrases.

No Greek gobbledygook.

No technobabble.

No college cliches.

No "blue wall of text".

Just nineteen one-syllable words.

In English.

No wonder academians can't understand it.

 

[Shemjaza]

You want a clear plan?

Here it is ...

1 John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

Nineteen one-syllable words.

No Latin phrases.

No Greek gobbledygook.

No technobabble.

No college cliches.

No "blue wall of text".

Just nineteen one-syllable words.

In English.

No wonder academians can't understand it.

Easy to say and easy understand is not the same as easy to justify and easy explain.

The statement "The Moon is full of ghosts." is a short easy to understand sentence of single syllable words, but that doesn't make it sensible or true.

 

[AV1611VET]

Easy to say and easy understand is not the same as easy to justify and easy explain.

The statement "The Moon is full of ghosts." is a short easy to understand sentence of single syllable words, but that doesn't make it sensible or true.

Thanks for the QED.

 

[durangodawood]

Ussher seemed to assume a lot with his 4004 B.C. creation date (evidently based on the first day of creation week). Personally, I think Creation week was in a different time zone altogether from the one we know. For example, why would the days before Day 4 and the creation of the sun be the same length as we know them? And really, it was God’s work, so how could we assume to know the length of any of them anyway? And, as far as chronology back to Adam, that’s crossing Day 7 of Creation Week??? God said it was finished on Day 6 (but doesn’t say when He set it in motion that I can find), and Day 7 was a day of rest for Him, but never-the-less in the Creation week time zone. I’m not wanting to argue against YEC, or anything really, just curious what others think. Could the adherence to hard dates, even when they cross from our time zone to an unknown one, be a reason for the time problem when dating the Flood or archeological finds and making comparisons? I’m not saying the archeological dating is exact either, it’s generally all estimated. All I’m saying, for example, is that the Flood was before Egyptian dynasties, no matter what dates they’re thought to be, and whether they're based on an interpretation of biblical chronologies or archaeological finds. Evolutionists feel free to comment too.

If they meant something different than a "day" they should have used a different word. Like "era" or similar.

 

[durangodawood]

You want a clear plan?

Here it is ...

1 John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life....

I dont find that bold "hath" clear at all.

So I looked up hath.
Archaic of have, which means "possess, own, or hold."
Becomes very murky as I explore each of those options.