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The rise in gas prices has always been part of Biden's plans

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He said, "I want you to look at my eyes. I guarantee you. I guarantee you. We're going to end fossil fuel."
Okay he actually planned to eliminate fossil fuels. High gas prices are just the result.

During his presidency?
 
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Fox News, Russia Today, The Epoch Times, and other sources of right wing misinformation?

What do I win?

You have to get the answer correct to get a prize.
 
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That's when it started

That's when what started? The move away from carbon based energy? Not hardly...
In any case, I stand by me assertion -- Joe Biden never planned to increase gas prices as the op's thread implies.
 
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That's when what started? The move away from carbon based energy? Not hardly...
In any case, I stand by me assertion -- Joe Biden never planned to increase gas prices as the op's thread implies.
In the last few years I don't think he's planned to do anything but read the teleprompter.
 
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I thought that was what the right-wing spin wanted to see - Biden to take swift and decisive action to reduce gas prices.
You mean like near dictator type power?.....uncle joe?.....the man under control of his leftist minions?.....Where did you get such a nonsensical belief such as that?.....that is the dream of the progressive left not conservatives......joe and emergency powers........how frightening......like a very early Halloween present......
 
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Did he lie?

That depends on what the question was does it not? From press accounts, I'm not able to find what the 24 year old activist asked him.

For example, if the question was: are you going to eliminate carbon emissions by 2050? I would not say he lied.

OTH, if the question was: Are you going to eliminate carbon emissions during your presidency? Yes, that would be grossly misleading the questioner.


Sept 6, 2019
NEW CASTLE, N.H. (AP) — Joe Biden is looking voters in the eye and promising to “end fossil fuel.”

The former vice president and Democratic presidential candidate made the comment Friday after a New Hampshire environmental activist challenged him for accepting donations from the co-founder of liquified natural gas firm.

Biden denied the donor’s association to the fossil fuel industry before calling the young woman “kiddo” and taking her hand. He said, “I want you to look at my eyes. I guarantee you. I guarantee you. We’re going to end fossil fuel.”

The activist, 24-year-old Rebecca Beaulieu, later said she appreciated that Biden took her question seriously, but that he was not satisfied with Biden’s plan to eliminate net carbon emissions by 2050.
 
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That depends on what the question was does it not? From press accounts, I'm not able to find what the 24 year old activist asked him.

For example, if the question was: are you going to eliminate carbon emissions by 2050? I would not say he lied.

OTH, if the question was: Are you going to eliminate carbon emissions during your presidency? Yes, that would be grossly misleading the questioner.


Sept 6, 2019
NEW CASTLE, N.H. (AP) — Joe Biden is looking voters in the eye and promising to “end fossil fuel.”

The former vice president and Democratic presidential candidate made the comment Friday after a New Hampshire environmental activist challenged him for accepting donations from the co-founder of liquified natural gas firm.

Biden denied the donor’s association to the fossil fuel industry before calling the young woman “kiddo” and taking her hand. He said, “I want you to look at my eyes. I guarantee you. I guarantee you. We’re going to end fossil fuel.”

The activist, 24-year-old Rebecca Beaulieu, later said she appreciated that Biden took her question seriously, but that he was not satisfied with Biden’s plan to eliminate net carbon emissions by 2050.
"Biden denied the donor’s association to the fossil fuel industry" Was this another lie?
 
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That depends on what the question was does it not? From press accounts, I'm not able to find what the 24 year old activist asked him.
No need to say anything more......
 
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What about the 75,000,000 and growing citizens that believe a 'worthless pile of redundant protoplasm' would be a better choice than either Joe or Kamala?

Then I have complete faith and confidence in the GOP's ability to find them just such a person.
 
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Then I have complete faith and confidence in the GOP's ability to find them just such a person.

Sounds logical - the Democrats already have - and one in the wings chomping at the bit.
 
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Sounds logical - the Democrats already have - and one in the wings chomping at the bit.
I hope you are right about the 75,000,000 but never underestimate the Republicans' ability to shoot themselves in the foot.
 
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I hope you are right about the 75,000,000 but never underestimate the Republicans' ability to shoot themselves in the foot.

Well, they'll still have to get around the 81,000,000 who supported Biden and his favorite saying: "Don't compare me to the Almighty; compare me to the alternative."

Disappointment at the popularity polls doesn't always translate into defeat at the ballot box...and let's all hope that this time, the contest ends at the ballot box...

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Because we all remember what "Plan B" looks like.
 
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Well, they'll still have to get around the 81,000,000 who supported Biden and his favorite saying: "Don't compare me to the Almighty; compare me to the alternative."

Disappointment at the popularity polls doesn't always translate into defeat at the ballot box...and let's all hope that this time, the contest ends at the ballot box...

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Because we all remember what "Plan B" looks like.
I don't think Biden will be one of the choices
 
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I don't think Biden will be one of the choices

Perhaps he won't -- but let us be grateful that we have a choice... For now.
 
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You mean like near dictator type power?.....uncle joe?.....the man under control of his leftist minions?.....Where did you get such a nonsensical belief such as that?
Mainly all the threads here filled with right wing talking points complaining that Biden isn't fixing gas prices.
 
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...we'll see where this is going. I'm skeptical that even with emergency powers, a president can do much to influence the behavior of global oil corporations...
We've just seen the devastating effects of what one president and one administration can do to an industry. Unaccountable federal agencies can and have under Joe put enormous pressure on U.S. based corporations. You have to get past the spin to see what's going on. The administration was claiming a release of 60,000 barrels of oil from our reserve would lower gas prices. Yet with the Keystone XL there would have been roughly 800,000 barrels of oil transported EACH DAY, and that according to spin from Democrats supposedly would have no effect on gas prices. With an accelerated national effort that pipeline could have been up and working some time this year. It's the restrictions they can put on the oil industry, tying them up in red tape, the U.S. corporations are ultimately beholding to their stockholders (so many Americans own them in retirement funds) and they can't justify starting new U.S. projects with Joe regularly tying up and attacking those American companies.
 
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