Jan 6 Breach of the Capitol: Consequences & Repercussions III

[essentialsaltes]

Trump call Jan. 6 to ‘walk down to the Capitol’ prompted Secret Service scramble

Shortly before pro-Trump rioters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Secret Service agents scrambled to try to secure a motorcade route so then-President Donald Trump could accompany his supporters as they marched on Congress to demand he stay in power, according to two people briefed on witnesses’ accounts to congressional investigators.

[SS called DC Police who said they were (already) stretched thin and could not block intersections, so SS quashed the plan.]

This much was kinda known already. What's a little new is that Trump was pushing for such a motorcade a few days earlier.

Around New Year’s Eve, Trump aides raised with Tony Ornato, a Secret Service official then temporarily serving as a deputy chief of staff in the White House, the president’s desire to ride in a motorcade on Jan. 6 alongside marchers heading to the Capitol

Secret Service officials were highly skeptical they could safely spirit Trump to the Capitol based on a similar experience they had at a “Stop the Steal” rally in downtown Washington on Nov. 14, according to witness accounts. Trump had thrilled his faithful supporters at the November rally when his motorcade appeared on Pennsylvania Avenue shortly after 10 a.m. Fans scurried to Freedom Plaza in downtown D.C. to catch a glimpse. Trump had pressed his security detail to make the detour to ride alongside the crowd, just before he was scheduled to head to his Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Va.

Ornato and Trump’s detail leader considered the Nov. 14 motorcade ride a potential catastrophe in the making, because of how close Trump’s limo came alongside unscreened members of the public, according to two people briefed on the discussions.

[But obviously Trump still wanted to do it, thus causing the scramble on the 6th when he announced the plan again in his speech.]

 

[St. Helens]

ADMIN HAT ON

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[FreeinChrist]

ADVISOR HAT

This thread had a clean up and is being reopened. Keep it on topic which is about the repercussions of the Jan. 6 riot/insurrection.

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[TLK Valentine]

Trump call Jan. 6 to ‘walk down to the Capitol’ prompted Secret Service scramble

Shortly before pro-Trump rioters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Secret Service agents scrambled to try to secure a motorcade route so then-President Donald Trump could accompany his supporters as they marched on Congress to demand he stay in power, according to two people briefed on witnesses’ accounts to congressional investigators.

[SS called DC Police who said they were (already) stretched thin and could not block intersections, so SS quashed the plan.]

This much was kinda known already. What's a little new is that Trump was pushing for such a motorcade a few days earlier.

Around New Year’s Eve, Trump aides raised with Tony Ornato, a Secret Service official then temporarily serving as a deputy chief of staff in the White House, the president’s desire to ride in a motorcade on Jan. 6 alongside marchers heading to the Capitol

Secret Service officials were highly skeptical they could safely spirit Trump to the Capitol based on a similar experience they had at a “Stop the Steal” rally in downtown Washington on Nov. 14, according to witness accounts. Trump had thrilled his faithful supporters at the November rally when his motorcade appeared on Pennsylvania Avenue shortly after 10 a.m. Fans scurried to Freedom Plaza in downtown D.C. to catch a glimpse. Trump had pressed his security detail to make the detour to ride alongside the crowd, just before he was scheduled to head to his Trump National Golf Club in Sterling, Va.

Ornato and Trump’s detail leader considered the Nov. 14 motorcade ride a potential catastrophe in the making, because of how close Trump’s limo came alongside unscreened members of the public, according to two people briefed on the discussions.

[But obviously Trump still wanted to do it, thus causing the scramble on the 6th when he announced the plan again in his speech.]

I'll admit; I'm impressed. I didn't think that Donald ever had any intention of accompanying his soldiers in their march...

 

[essentialsaltes]

apparently I plopped this in the wrong thread back in April.

Former Virginia police officer who stormed US Capitol found guilty on all charges

Thomas Robertson, a former sergeant of the Rocky Mount police in Virginia, faced charges including impeding law enforcement officers, obstructing an official proceeding, entering and remaining in restricted grounds and tampering with evidence.

The jury heard from multiple witness during the trial last week, including Washington police officers who were there during the attack, federal agents and Robertson's former police colleague and co-defendant who testified as part of a plea deal with the government.

One juror told CNN that "there was debate on every charge" while the jury deliberated for around 13 hours.

Robertson has been awaiting his trial in jail since July, after investigators said they found a rifle and bomb-making material in his home and learned that he bought another 37 guns on the internet after his original arrest in January 2021.

 

[essentialsaltes]

How a California lawyer became a focal point of the Jan. 6 investigation
[Judge] Carter reached his conclusion relying on evidence in a federal lawsuit Eastman brought to prevent Congress from obtaining his emails and documents. The judge found that Trump and Eastman “more likely than not” conspired to obstruct Congress on Jan. 6.

Judge Carter has run out of patience.

DISPOSITION

For the reasons explained above, the Court finds that 440 documents are privileged. The Court ORDERS Dr. Eastman to disclose the other 159 documents to the House Select Committee by 2:00 p.m. Pacific Time on Wednesday, June 8, 2022.171

DATED: June 7, 2022

 

[BerthaSeven]

I'll admit; I'm impressed. I didn't think that Donald ever had any intention of accompanying his soldiers in their march...

I'm genuinely curious why he didn't accompany them that day. He said he was going to and that would amount to more time watching people look at him, so that's got to be 100% pure "win" in his book. Might also look like he's crossing the Rubicon too much, but you know Trump's not going to have thought that.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I'm genuinely curious why he didn't accompany them that day. He said he was going to and that would amount to more time watching people look at him, so that's got to be 100% pure "win" in his book. Might also look like he's crossing the Rubicon too much, but you know Trump's not going to have thought that.

The Secret Service told him that they couldn't provide a route -- it's possible that, as an amateur politician, Donald didn't realize that as POTUS, he could override the Secret Service...

...after all, it's not like he had any reason to be concerned about legitimate political discourse, right?

 

[Whyayeman]

It is a puzzle. On the one hand, Trump liked to demonstrate to his followers the pomp of the presidency and he said he would 'be there with you'. On the other hand - what? He thought being among his supporters was as dangerous as his protectors said? He was concerned that if the gamble failed he would be finished as a politician? He just couldn't be bothered?

Maybe the explanation is that he was waiting for the Congress vote to be declared. When Congress failed to endorse the College vote he would sweep down Pennsylvania Avenue in triumph. How he would have loved that!

 

[wing2000]

Heather Cox Richardson writes:
Today, the Washington Commanders defensive coordinator Jack Del Rio complained to reporters that there have been “two standards” in the way we have seen the vandalism at some of the Black Lives Matter protests in 2020 and the January 6 insurrection. “We have a dust-up at the Capitol, nothing burned down, and we’re going to make that a major deal.”

This is a common charge on the right, but it is a myth. An AP study showed that more than 120 defendants have pleaded guilty or been convicted at trial for rioting, arson, and conspiracy for the 2020 protests, and that they are from all over the political spectrum, with many of them far-right extremists who traveled across state lines to the protests. And the January 6 attack was hardly victimless: 5 people died at the Capitol riot or just after it, more than 100 law enforcement officers were injured, and the rioters did more than $1.5 million in damage to the Capitol.

Records rebut claims of unequal treatment of Jan. 6 rioters

 

[essentialsaltes]

FBI arrests Michigan gubernatorial candidate on charges related to involvement in January 6 riot

A GOP Michigan gubernatorial candidate, Ryan Kelley, was arrested Thursday on misdemeanor charges related to his involvement in the Capitol riot on January 6, 2021, according to the Justice Department.

“Ryan Kelley, 40, of Allendale, Michigan, was arrested this morning on misdemeanor charges stemming from the Jan. 6, 2021 Capitol breach. He was arrested in Allendale. Mr. Kelley is to make his initial appearance this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Michigan,” said Bill Miller, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s office in the District of Columbia.

 

[Green Sun]

The first Public Hearing of the January 6th Committee has begun.

Donald Trump is guilty, as everyone is aware of course. Hopefully this will help to shine light even further on his guilt. Even if Republicans will willfully deny what they already know is true.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Among his extensive efforts from his office at the White House, Ziegler facilitated a now-infamous late-night meeting on Dec. 18, 2020 in which attorney Sidney Powell, retired Lt. General Michael Flynn and former Overstock.com CEO Patrick Byrne tried to persuade President Trump to order the National Guard to seize voting machines and re-running elections in six battleground states he lost to Joe Biden.

I think my biggest takeaway from tonight's presentation was the fact that this secret meeting came shortly before Trump's Jan 6 invitation "Will be wild."

For remaining supporters of the Big Lie, I would point to Trump's attorney general, legal counsel, campaign data analyst, and daughter saying he lost. Any election fraud known at the time or known now was not enough to change any state results.

 

[wing2000]

A toast to Liz Cheney. One of the few Republicans who is putting her country first.

 

[TLK Valentine]

A toast to Liz Cheney. One of the few Republicans who is putting her country first.

I'm going to miss her when she gets ousted from the Party.

 

[wing2000]

I'm going to miss her when she gets ousted from the Party.

Hardly any her Republican colleagues have the integrity to speak the truth....they're too worried about what the former president will say. As Liz Cheney aptly said this evening:

“Tonight, I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible: There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone, but your dishonor will remain.”
[edited to add the complete quote]

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Is anyone else here as hopeful as I am that this hearing will reveal why despite the warnings Nancy Pelosi received, security was at half-staff and unprepared?

 

[Whyayeman]

Yes, me.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Is anyone else here as hopeful as I am that this hearing will reveal why despite the warnings Nancy Pelosi received, security was at half-staff and unprepared?

I hope we find out why Capitol Security was understaffed, and that the person responsible for it is held accountable.

 

[Oompa Loompa]

I hope we find out why Capitol Security was understaffed, and that the person responsible for it is held accountable.

Well...the people ultimately responsible would be Nancy Pelosi and Mitch McConnell. But yet for some strange reason, their offices are off limits. I would argue that if the politicians actually cares about finding the truth and holding people responsible, Nancy and Mitch should be investigated.