Yes, you can know the DAY and the HOUR of His Coming

[Deafsilence]

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

So many read that verse and WRONGFULLY preach that it means we CANNOT know the day and the hour of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

I'm going to tell you that MOST are ignorant of what this verse is really saying and it comes down to the verb. Let's look at it together:

Mat 24:36 ButG1161 ofG4012 thatG1565 dayG2250 andG2532 hourG5610 knowethG1492 noG3762 man, no, notG3761 theG3588 angelsG32 of heaven,G3772 butG1508 myG3450 FatherG3962 only.G3441

Notice the Greek word represented by Strong's number G1492 there.

Here is Strong's definition but I'm going to put you on a more sure understanding:

G1492
εἴδω
eidō
i'-do
A primary verb; used only in certain past tenses, the others being borrowed from the equivalent, G3700 and G3708; properly to see (literally or figuratively); by implication (in the perfect only) to know: - be aware, behold, X can (+ not tell), consider, (have) known (-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wist, wot. Compare G3700.

Now the key to understanding the meaning of this word is to keep in mind the word ABILITY. Notice how often this word is translated as to "see". Seeing being the use of an ability you have to gain an understanding. If we recall that understanding later, we may then use a different Greek word such as G1097.

When you see it as some information gained by an ABILITY this comes as more interesting:

Mat_9:4 AndG2532 JesusG2424 knowingG1492 theirG846 thoughtsG1761 said,G2036 WhereforeG2444 thinkG1760 yeG5210 evilG4190 inG1722 yourG5216 hearts?G2588

Jesus in the verse above had the ABILITY to know the thoughts of others as if SEEING them.

So let's go back to Matt 24:36. The verse is showing that no man has the ABILITY of the Knowledge of those things such as the date and time of the coming of the Jesus Christ. In other words Man cannot perceive those things. However, God, the Father in Heaven can.

Now here is the Key part - the FATHER can give you of His Spirit and EMPOWER you to have that ABILITY also. It is not man's ability to know but the Father's ability to know as He gives by His Spirit. This is the meaning behind that verse.

Now let's clarify this even more:

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Now notice that Jesus is questioned about times and dates of when He would restore the Kingdom. His answer to them is that the times and seasons are in the Father's Power. Now important to understand is that He then goes on to tell them that they would receive THAT POWER from the Father when they receive the Holy Spirit.

Now it is important to note that the word behind "Power" is two different Greek Words which are related in the sense that one is the authority and the other is the force exhibited by the authority so either way this verse is showing that the Father's ABILITY is being bestowed upon the Disciples when they will receive the Holy Spirit.

So this belief that we cannot know the Day and Hour is simply NOT true. Now of course the Devil doesn't want you to know because you may be like the Watchman and then known in Which Watch the Thief will come:

Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

You see the Devil wants you to be a goodman that doesn't know which watch that will be. Don't fall for it. Be looking for His Visitation.

Those that were not aware of His first visitation suffered greatly. How much more do you think it will be for those that don't know the next visitation:

Luk_19:44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

I hope you go and study more about these verses and go in depth to seek out the answers. Don't rely on what someone tells you. Prove all things to yourself. This is an important topic.

 

[Petros2015]

So many read that verse and WRONGFULLY preach that it means we CANNOT know the day and the hour of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

Can't know it, but I can ballpark it:

The day will be somewhere in the 1-7 range
And the hour somewhere in 0-23
So it's really the month and year that are the bigger problems

 

[DavidPT]

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

So many read that verse and WRONGFULLY preach that it means we CANNOT know the day and the hour of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

I'm going to tell you that MOST are ignorant of what this verse is really saying and it comes down to the verb. Let's look at it together:

Mat 24:36 ButG1161 ofG4012 thatG1565 dayG2250 andG2532 hourG5610 knowethG1492 noG3762 man, no, notG3761 theG3588 angelsG32 of heaven,G3772 butG1508 myG3450 FatherG3962 only.G3441

Notice the Greek word represented by Strong's number G1492 there.

Here is Strong's definition but I'm going to put you on a more sure understanding:

G1492
εἴδω
eidō
i'-do
A primary verb; used only in certain past tenses, the others being borrowed from the equivalent, G3700 and G3708; properly to see (literally or figuratively); by implication (in the perfect only) to know: - be aware, behold, X can (+ not tell), consider, (have) known (-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wist, wot. Compare G3700.

Now the key to understanding the meaning of this word is to keep in mind the word ABILITY. Notice how often this word is translated as to "see". Seeing being the use of an ability you have to gain an understanding. If we recall that understanding later, we may then use a different Greek word such as G1097.

When you see it as some information gained by an ABILITY this comes as more interesting:

Mat_9:4 AndG2532 JesusG2424 knowingG1492 theirG846 thoughtsG1761 said,G2036 WhereforeG2444 thinkG1760 yeG5210 evilG4190 inG1722 yourG5216 hearts?G2588

Jesus in the verse above had the ABILITY to know the thoughts of others as if SEEING them.

So let's go back to Matt 24:36. The verse is showing that no man has the ABILITY of the Knowledge of those things such as the date and time of the coming of the Jesus Christ. In other words Man cannot perceive those things. However, God, the Father in Heaven can.

Now here is the Key part - the FATHER can give you of His Spirit and EMPOWER you to have that ABILITY also. It is not man's ability to know but the Father's ability to know as He gives by His Spirit. This is the meaning behind that verse.

Now let's clarify this even more:

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Now notice that Jesus is questioned about times and dates of when He would restore the Kingdom. His answer to them is that the times and seasons are in the Father's Power. Now important to understand is that He then goes on to tell them that they would receive THAT POWER from the Father when they receive the Holy Spirit.

Now it is important to note that the word behind "Power" is two different Greek Words which are related in the sense that one is the authority and the other is the force exhibited by the authority so either way this verse is showing that the Father's ABILITY is being bestowed upon the Disciples when they will receive the Holy Spirit.

So this belief that we cannot know the Day and Hour is simply NOT true. Now of course the Devil doesn't want you to know because you may be like the Watchman and then known in Which Watch the Thief will come:

Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

You see the Devil wants you to be a goodman that doesn't know which watch that will be. Don't fall for it. Be looking for His Visitation.

Those that were not aware of His first visitation suffered greatly. How much more do you think it will be for those that don't know the next visitation:

Luk_19:44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

I hope you go and study more about these verses and go in depth to seek out the answers. Don't rely on what someone tells you. Prove all things to yourself. This is an important topic.

I guess this means Jesus lied to us then. He even said the angels in heaven don't know the day and hour. He said only the Father knows the day and hour. Common sense then says, in order for anyone else to also know the day and hour, the Father has to tell them first since He is the only one that knows that. Which humans should we assume He has told this to, and what makes them so special in relation to other humans, such as Paul, who never knew this day and hour? None of the Apostles knew the day and hour.

 

[Deafsilence]

I guess this means Jesus lied to us then. He even said the angels in heaven don't know the day and hour. He said only the Father knows the day and hour. Common sense then says, in order for anyone else to also know the day and hour, the Father has to tell them first since He is the only one that knows that. Which humans should we assume He has told this to, and what makes them so special in relation to other humans, such as Paul, who never knew this day and hour? None of the Apostles knew the day and hour.

But if you believe only the Father can know the day and hour and doesn't reveal it to anyone then Jesus can never come because that would give it away. I mean - think about it. It is such a nonsense thing to say Jesus will come again but He will never know it.

 

[Petros2015]

Jesus can never come because that would give it away. I mean - think about it. It is such a nonsense thing to say Jesus will come again but He will never know it.

*tap tap*
"Yes Dad?"
"Son, it's time."

Most people don't even know the day and the hour of their own deaths until it is shortly upon them. Perhaps after I am told of the one, I might ask of the other.

 

[Deafsilence]

*tap tap*
"Yes Dad?"
"Son, it's time."

Most people don't even know the day and the hour of their own deaths until it is shortly upon them. Perhaps after I am told of the one, I might ask of the other.

I'm pretty sure that if Jesus is Coming He is going to KNOW that He is coming when He is on His way. So the verse OBVIOUSLY cannot mean that Jesus can't know.

Using your own example, shows that someone could know (even when it is time).

I could use the very same verse as you are using it to say that it is proof that Jesus isn't coming because that would mean He would then know. Obviously, I would be twisting the meaning of the verse to make that point just as it takes ignorance of the meaning of the verse to say we can't know.

 

[Douggg]

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

So many read that verse and WRONGFULLY preach that it means we CANNOT know the day and the hour of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

I'm going to tell you that MOST are ignorant of what this verse is really saying and it comes down to the verb. Let's look at it together:

Mat 24:36 ButG1161 ofG4012 thatG1565 dayG2250 andG2532 hourG5610 knowethG1492 noG3762 man, no, notG3761 theG3588 angelsG32 of heaven,G3772 butG1508 myG3450 FatherG3962 only.G3441

Notice the Greek word represented by Strong's number G1492 there.

Here is Strong's definition but I'm going to put you on a more sure understanding:

G1492
εἴδω
eidō
i'-do
A primary verb; used only in certain past tenses, the others being borrowed from the equivalent, G3700 and G3708; properly to see (literally or figuratively); by implication (in the perfect only) to know: - be aware, behold, X can (+ not tell), consider, (have) known (-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wist, wot. Compare G3700.

Now the key to understanding the meaning of this word is to keep in mind the word ABILITY. Notice how often this word is translated as to "see". Seeing being the use of an ability you have to gain an understanding. If we recall that understanding later, we may then use a different Greek word such as G1097.

When you see it as some information gained by an ABILITY this comes as more interesting:

Mat_9:4 AndG2532 JesusG2424 knowingG1492 theirG846 thoughtsG1761 said,G2036 WhereforeG2444 thinkG1760 yeG5210 evilG4190 inG1722 yourG5216 hearts?G2588

Jesus in the verse above had the ABILITY to know the thoughts of others as if SEEING them.

So let's go back to Matt 24:36. The verse is showing that no man has the ABILITY of the Knowledge of those things such as the date and time of the coming of the Jesus Christ. In other words Man cannot perceive those things. However, God, the Father in Heaven can.

Now here is the Key part - the FATHER can give you of His Spirit and EMPOWER you to have that ABILITY also. It is not man's ability to know but the Father's ability to know as He gives by His Spirit. This is the meaning behind that verse.

Now let's clarify this even more:

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Now notice that Jesus is questioned about times and dates of when He would restore the Kingdom. His answer to them is that the times and seasons are in the Father's Power. Now important to understand is that He then goes on to tell them that they would receive THAT POWER from the Father when they receive the Holy Spirit.

Now it is important to note that the word behind "Power" is two different Greek Words which are related in the sense that one is the authority and the other is the force exhibited by the authority so either way this verse is showing that the Father's ABILITY is being bestowed upon the Disciples when they will receive the Holy Spirit.

So this belief that we cannot know the Day and Hour is simply NOT true. Now of course the Devil doesn't want you to know because you may be like the Watchman and then known in Which Watch the Thief will come:

Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

You see the Devil wants you to be a goodman that doesn't know which watch that will be. Don't fall for it. Be looking for His Visitation.

Those that were not aware of His first visitation suffered greatly. How much more do you think it will be for those that don't know the next visitation:

Luk_19:44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

I hope you go and study more about these verses and go in depth to seek out the answers. Don't rely on what someone tells you. Prove all things to yourself. This is an important topic.

Well, you left us with a cliffhanger...

Do you believe that you know the day and hour?

 

[Deafsilence]

Well, you left us with a cliffhanger...

Do you believe that you know the day and hour?

I believe God is showing it to me. He has given me the time of the year and the season. But the day and hour are still being developed. I believe I know but I need to dig deeper to ensure I know. This tells me that God wants me to have a greater conviction.

 

[Blade]

you know when they asked Him about ruling He said to them, ““Lord, are You at this time reestablishing the kingdom and restoring it to Israel?" Christ said "It is not for you to know the times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority."

I don't think its wise to ignore all those that came before us and scholars. Some studied this for a life time and still can not say when. See we are not promised tomorrow. Today is the moment we live in. This moment is where I put my hope not in a day I was never promised. Also God will always confirm His word. We really need to think..well God/Christ/sweet sweet holy Spirit never told any of them .. yet we can know?

What do those over you say? Well we all need someone over us or we might get deceived. Bless you for sharing to watch and pray amen.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Well,Lord Jesus told us when but people do not read with understanding.
Luke 17:26
And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Days of Noah:
Gen. 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

We don't know now, but we will know then.

 

[parousia70]

I'm pretty sure that if Jesus is Coming He is going to KNOW that He is coming when He is on His way. So the verse OBVIOUSLY cannot mean that Jesus can't know.

Using your own example, shows that someone could know (even when it is time).

I could use the very same verse as you are using it to say that it is proof that Jesus isn't coming because that would mean He would then know. Obviously, I would be twisting the meaning of the verse to make that point just as it takes ignorance of the meaning of the verse to say we can't know.

Weird also that if I'm indoors when it happens, and someone outside my house sees Him coming and calls out to me "I see Jesus! There He is on the clouds!", Scripture is adamate I am NOT to believe Him....
(Matthew 24:23, Matthew 24:26, Mark 13:21)

 

[Jipsah]

I believe God is showing it to me

As they say in the Old Country, "Right".

 

[Deafsilence]

you know when they asked Him about ruling He said to them, ““Lord, are You at this time reestablishing the kingdom and restoring it to Israel?" Christ said "It is not for you to know the times or epochs which the Father has fixed by His own authority."

I don't think its wise to ignore all those that came before us and scholars. Some studied this for a life time and still can not say when. See we are not promised tomorrow. Today is the moment we live in. This moment is where I put my hope not in a day I was never promised. Also God will always confirm His word. We really need to think..well God/Christ/sweet sweet holy Spirit never told any of them .. yet we can know?

What do those over you say? Well we all need someone over us or we might get deceived. Bless you for sharing to watch and pray amen.

Based on your same statements we can determine the following:

It isn't wise to ignore those that came before as scholars. (We can include Pharisees and Scribes in that category as they preached the doctrines of Jewish tradition).

I've already shown that we can know. It is not on me if you don't your careful analysis.

 

[Deafsilence]

Well,Lord Jesus told us when but people do not read with understanding.
Luke 17:26
And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Days of Noah:
Gen. 7:4 For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth.

We don't know now, but we will know then.

Noah knew when the Flood would come beforehand.

 

[Deafsilence]

As they say in the Old Country, "Right".

I would say that if don't want to investigate it then it comes down to this:

If you investigate it and find I'm wrong - you wasted your time.

If you investigate it and find you believe - you didn't waste your time.

You choose which of those results in this regard means more to you.

 

[Petros2015]

I believe God is showing it to me. He has given me the time of the year and the season. But the day and hour are still being developed.

Well that's fair, but make sure you get the year too - Autumn, Tuesday 5:00PM EST still leaves a lot of room. What will you do when you have it, if you have it? I feel like it was kept from us for a reason, so even if it could be found, it might not be the best idea. A lot of people felt they had it, but did harm or came to be seen as fools. Those who live as though it might be tomorrow won't and never will be.

 

[Skye1300]

Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

So many read that verse and WRONGFULLY preach that it means we CANNOT know the day and the hour of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

I'm going to tell you that MOST are ignorant of what this verse is really saying and it comes down to the verb. Let's look at it together:

Mat 24:36 ButG1161 ofG4012 thatG1565 dayG2250 andG2532 hourG5610 knowethG1492 noG3762 man, no, notG3761 theG3588 angelsG32 of heaven,G3772 butG1508 myG3450 FatherG3962 only.G3441

Notice the Greek word represented by Strong's number G1492 there.

Here is Strong's definition but I'm going to put you on a more sure understanding:

G1492
εἴδω
eidō
i'-do
A primary verb; used only in certain past tenses, the others being borrowed from the equivalent, G3700 and G3708; properly to see (literally or figuratively); by implication (in the perfect only) to know: - be aware, behold, X can (+ not tell), consider, (have) known (-ledge), look (on), perceive, see, be sure, tell, understand, wist, wot. Compare G3700.

Now the key to understanding the meaning of this word is to keep in mind the word ABILITY. Notice how often this word is translated as to "see". Seeing being the use of an ability you have to gain an understanding. If we recall that understanding later, we may then use a different Greek word such as G1097.

When you see it as some information gained by an ABILITY this comes as more interesting:

Mat_9:4 AndG2532 JesusG2424 knowingG1492 theirG846 thoughtsG1761 said,G2036 WhereforeG2444 thinkG1760 yeG5210 evilG4190 inG1722 yourG5216 hearts?G2588

Jesus in the verse above had the ABILITY to know the thoughts of others as if SEEING them.

So let's go back to Matt 24:36. The verse is showing that no man has the ABILITY of the Knowledge of those things such as the date and time of the coming of the Jesus Christ. In other words Man cannot perceive those things. However, God, the Father in Heaven can.

Now here is the Key part - the FATHER can give you of His Spirit and EMPOWER you to have that ABILITY also. It is not man's ability to know but the Father's ability to know as He gives by His Spirit. This is the meaning behind that verse.

Now let's clarify this even more:

Act 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
Act 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
Act 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Now notice that Jesus is questioned about times and dates of when He would restore the Kingdom. His answer to them is that the times and seasons are in the Father's Power. Now important to understand is that He then goes on to tell them that they would receive THAT POWER from the Father when they receive the Holy Spirit.

Now it is important to note that the word behind "Power" is two different Greek Words which are related in the sense that one is the authority and the other is the force exhibited by the authority so either way this verse is showing that the Father's ABILITY is being bestowed upon the Disciples when they will receive the Holy Spirit.

So this belief that we cannot know the Day and Hour is simply NOT true. Now of course the Devil doesn't want you to know because you may be like the Watchman and then known in Which Watch the Thief will come:

Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

You see the Devil wants you to be a goodman that doesn't know which watch that will be. Don't fall for it. Be looking for His Visitation.

Those that were not aware of His first visitation suffered greatly. How much more do you think it will be for those that don't know the next visitation:

Luk_19:44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

I hope you go and study more about these verses and go in depth to seek out the answers. Don't rely on what someone tells you. Prove all things to yourself. This is an important topic.

So, well then, when is it?

 

[Deafsilence]

Well that's fair, but make sure you get the year too - Autumn, Tuesday 5:00PM EST still leaves a lot of room. What will you do when you have it, if you have it? I feel like it was kept from us for a reason, so even if it could be found, it might not be the best idea. A lot of people felt they had it, but did harm or came to be seen as fools. Those who live as though it might be tomorrow won't and never will be.

Just walk through it and think about it:

1.) Genesis 6:3 indicated a 120 years left for man. I believe this is referring to 120 Jubilees of Man's dominion.
2.) The 50th Jubilee was at the Exodus. Many archeologist put that around 1446 BC. Simple count from there towards the end of the 120 Jubilee period and you may begin to see where it is heading to in the near future. BTW - I put the 50th Jubilee starting in 1440 BC.
3.) Think about the chance that the 60th Jubilee period would occur at the time of the building of the First Temple (It is fitting since man was created on the 6th day and the Temple provides an atonement for man).
4.) Think about the chance that the 70th Jubilee would occur at the time of the building of the 2nd Temple (at the end of the 70 weeks of captivity).
5.) Think about the chance that the 80th Jubilee would occur at the time of the the Son of God being Risen and the Church being established unto the Father in 31 AD - 8 being a time of the consecration of Sons (as circumcision is a type of - done on the 8th day).
6.) Consider that Moses was a type of Jesus. He began his ministry at 80 years old and died at 120 years old. He led his congregation in the wilderness for 40 years. Now Christ comes to us with His Church in the 80th Jubilee and will lead them for 40 Jubilees in the Wilderness till the end of the 120 Jubilee.
7.) Consider that Jesus said He would come back to His Church. His Church is His people. He is the Light of Men. The Menorah (Lampstands) are a type of the Church. Each Candlestick said to represent a wandering star (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter, Mars, Saturn). All of those wandering stars coming into Virgo in Sept of 2040
8.) Sept of 2040 is the Feast of Trumpets and when the end of the 120th Jubilee would occur exactly.

You may think that is all just chance but not so.

Consider that Pentecost is always on the 9th day of the 3rd Lunar Month and from their to the 10th day of the 7th lunar month (Day of Atonement) is exactly 120 days.

Chance? No! The Lord is coming and SOON!

 

[Deafsilence]

So, well then, when is it?

When do all the wandering stars come into Virgo (Time of the year of the Jubilee)? - Sept of 2040. Exactly at the end of 120 Jubilees.

 

[Petros2015]

8.) Sept of 2040 is the Feast of Trumpets

Aha! I was right!
Autumn.

(thank you for sharing your considered answer and the thought behind it)

18 more years is a long time to hang around though...
If I pop off early, hopefully I can join the army mustering on the other side
It's one thing to await the return of the Son of Man
And another to await
Returning with Him