So how is that BLM thing going?

[Oompa Loompa]

I don't think you know what you're promoting. It sure doesn't make much sense on my end...
Ringo

I am not surprised. To break it down for you, promoting an idea that someone is a victim and convincing them when they are not is called "promoting a victim mentality". Telling them they are not a victim is not.

 

[BPPLEE]

Again I say for a third time. The actions are not justifiable but were completely avoidable

Of course it could have been avoided if Floyd hadn't used counterfeit money been high on drugs and acted like an idiot. And it could have been avoided if they had just put him in the car once he was handcuffed. As a police officer you have to deal with idiots and use force but you also have to use common sense. Chauvin or whatever his name is knew what he was doing and even worse he knew he was being filmed while he did it. I consider him more of an idiot than Floyd

 

[Oompa Loompa]

That's 14% to 28%. Which is obviously double the rate for white families. Which is obviously a problem. So what do you think is a solution to that? Education? Employment? Housing? A combo of all three?

The problem is multifaceted. But if you want immediate results, stop incentivising single parenthood with entitlements. Meaning, undo the LBJ era policies.

 

[Bradskii]

The problem is multifaceted. But if you want immediate results, stop incentivising single parenthood with entitlements. Meaning, undo the LBJ era policies.

Give me some figures.

 

[BPPLEE]

I don't think you know what you're promoting. It sure doesn't make much sense on my end...
Ringo

You are like the white woman in The Color Purple who thought she was helping. You should watch the movie

 

[Oompa Loompa]

Give me some figures.

Black Family Structure in Decline Since the 1960s: The Home Effect

Of course this is an opinion piece. But it was the first of many examples that popped up. But it does have sources that show that single parenthood sky-rocketed since LBJ. Now, there is almost no economical benefit for marriage. It is better to have a baby momma than a wife. You'd get more government entitlements that way.

 

[Ringo84]

You are like the white woman in The Color Purple who thought she was helping. You should watch the movie

I'll give that all of the attention it merits. OK, done.
Ringo

 

[BPPLEE]

That's 14% to 28%. Which is obviously double the rate for white families. Which is obviously a problem. So what do you think is a solution to that? Education? Employment? Housing? A combo of all three?

There is no simple solution. You think you can just throw money at this problem and make it go away? We are losing our culture. We already subsidize housing. Employment? We pay people not to work? Education? We are teaching gender identity and critical race theory and our kids can't read. Which do you want to spend more money on?

 

[Ringo84]

I am not surprised. To break it down for you, promoting an idea that someone is a victim and convincing them when they are not is called "promoting a victim mentality". Telling them they are not a victim is not.

Promoting an idea that a person brought on a Floyd-like tragedy because they "did it to themselves" promotes...what, exactly?

You're just as bad as the people who are outright racists. At least they're honest about what they believe, but you cloak it in bad-faith about "victim mentality" and (just guessing here) rants about pulling up pants. "A cow pie, by any other name, would not smell so sweet".
Ringo

 

[rturner76]

Black Family Structure in Decline Since the 1960s: The Home Effect

Of course this is an opinion piece. But it was the first of many examples that popped up. But it does have sources that show that single parenthood sky-rocketed since LBJ. Now, there is almost no economical benefit for marriage. It is better to have a baby momma than a wife. You'd get more government entitlements that way.

And you know how wealthy black people are from all that welfare.

 

[BPPLEE]

Promoting an idea that a person brought on a Floyd-like tragedy because they "did it to themselves" promotes...what, exactly?

You're just as bad as the people who are outright racists. At least they're honest about what they believe, but you cloak it in bad-faith about "victim mentality" and (just guessing here) rants about pulling up pants. "A cow pie, by any other name, would not smell so sweet".
Ringo

And what do you do to help these people?

 

[Ringo84]

And what do you do to help these people?

Why is this about me?
Ringo

 

[BPPLEE]

Why is this about me?
Ringo

Lol

 

[Ringo84]

Trying to change the subject away from their racist attitudes...
Ringo

 

[Bradskii]

Black Family Structure in Decline Since the 1960s: The Home Effect

Of course this is an opinion piece. But it was the first of many examples that popped up. But it does have sources that show that single parenthood sky-rocketed since LBJ. Now, there is almost no economical benefit for marriage. It is better to have a baby momma than a wife. You'd get more government entitlements that way.

So give me what you think the solution should be.

 

[Bradskii]

There is no simple solution. You think you can just throw money at this problem and make it go away? We are losing our culture. We already subsidize housing. Employment? We pay people not to work? Education? We are teaching gender identity and critical race theory and our kids can't read. Which do you want to spend more money on?

More employment would help. Helping out those who are out of work is good. Better education for all is a given. Literacy must be improved. All of those take money. It's more a case of priorities. Invest now for a better future. Any ideas where we should spend it first? Can you prioritise it?

 

[Aldebaran]

Promoting an idea that a person brought on a Floyd-like tragedy because they "did it to themselves" promotes...what, exactly?

You're just as bad as the people who are outright racists. At least they're honest about what they believe, but you cloak it in bad-faith about "victim mentality" and (just guessing here) rants about pulling up pants. "A cow pie, by any other name, would not smell so sweet".
Ringo

You've clearly exhausted all attempts at justifying your position now that you're projecting your views onto those you disagree with, and resorting to the ever-losing tactic of calling people racists for not agreeing with you.

 

[rturner76]

There is no simple solution. You think you can just throw money at this problem and make it go away? We are losing our culture. We already subsidize housing. Employment? We pay people not to work? Education? We are teaching gender identity and critical race theory and our kids can't read. Which do you want to spend more money on?

Who is "we?"

 

[Ringo84]

"Losing our culture"?

Given that that's a statement made in a thread about BLM, yikesaroo.
Ringo

 

[BPPLEE]

More employment would help. Helping out those who are out of work is good. Better education for all is a given. Literacy must be improved. All of those take money. It's more a case of priorities. Invest now for a better future. Any ideas where we should spend it first? Can you prioritise it?

How do you get a mother and a father to be responsible for these young people to set an example for them to help them with their school work to teach them how to work and be productive citizens? Many people do and I know many who do but there are so many who have no father figure no interest in how they do in school and a parent who only cares about the check they get for them every month. How do you help those kids? I was in law enforcement for 16 years and was a youth pastor for 10 so I have seen it first hand. It has to start with the children. Help them. See that they actually learn something in school. Teach them to value work and give them an alternative to gangs and crime. Show them that someone cares about them and believes in them. It has to start with the children