Southwest Missouri high school teacher accused of using critical race theory loses job

[royal priest]

These are high school students. I don’t see the problem with challenging them with the concept of privilege and opening a discussion.

They don't leave it open for discussion. CRT doesn't try to make you question whether or not you have privilege. If you're white, then you have a problem, by default. You are inherently different from your black friends and family in a bad way. There are testimonies of CRT stirring up division among different skinned toned family members in the same household. Since when should skin color ever become the issue that fixes our problems?

 

[essentialsaltes]

It all must be one big misunderstanding, then.

Certainly someone is misunderstanding something.

Just because she was going to have her students read a book recommended by Ibram Kendi (a CRT guru)

CRT is a legal theory; Kendi is a historian who focuses on antiracism. But glad you like the recommendation. He may have recommended Bambi for all I know, but regardless I think the related interview seems quite reasonable and unobjectionable:

On whether anti-racist education means being told white equals terrible

Any good teacher who's going to teach about racism, and also its history, are going to teach about people of different races who were involved in abolitionist struggles, who were involved in the civil rights movement, who are trying to create an equitable and just society today. So what a white student will learn is, they'll learn about a white slaveholder and a white abolitionist, and they'll learn about why both said what they said and did what they did, and they'll learn which one had the morally right and just position.

 

[comana]

It's amazing how these CRT people made it seem okay with everyone to just step back half a century judging people by the color of their skin as if we didn't have a black man in the White House.

I guess since Obama was elected all racial disparity was erased.

 

[essentialsaltes]

There are testimonies of CRT stirring up division among different skinned toned family members in the same household. Since when should skin color ever become the issue that fixes our problems?

I'm not sure what these alleged testimonies have to do with the topic of this thread. Please try to keep to the topic.

If you're white, then you have a problem, by default. You are inherently different from your black friends and family in a bad way.

That does not appear to be the message of Ibram Kendi. Of course, he's not a CRT proponent and neither is this book. So you could still be right about CRT. But CRT was not being taught in this class.

 

[comana]

They don't leave it open for discussion. CRT doesn't try to make you question whether or not you have privilege. If you're white, then you have a problem, by default. You are inherently different from your black friends and family in a bad way. There are testimonies of CRT stirring up division among different skinned toned family members in the same household. Since when should skin color ever become the issue that fixes our problems?

CRT is not a primary or secondary school topic of education. However, parents who don’t want an open discussion of race and privilege have decided any discussion of race that makes them feel uncomfortable must be pegged as CRT and thus vilified.

 

[royal priest]

CRT is not a primary or secondary school topic of education. However, parents who don’t want an open discussion of race and privilege have decided any discussion of race that makes them feel uncomfortable must be pegged as CRT and thus vilified.

I agree with that. But awareness of my skin tone isn't going to contribute anything of real value to how I treat my black family and friends. Thankfully, we think CRT is nonsense because we love each other for who we are including our color.

 

[Pommer]

USA is a crazy place. Half the people are sane but are trying to accommodate for the other half.
The other half are completely insane and hate anything to with the first half.

With each side believing that theirs is “the sane one”.
And here we are!

 

[stevil]

With each side believing that theirs is “the sane one”.
And here we are!

I'm not sure how believing in Deep State, that Covid was planned and a trick to control people, that Hillary Clinton is the head of a paedophile ring, that Democrats hate America and want USA to be a Socialist country, that Democrats want to take away all guns, that Democrats want to have open boarders, that schools are teaching CRT.
How do people that believe the above, consider themselves to be sane?

 

[Skye1300]

I wish this country would just do away with the whole notion of "race" anyway. The myth of "race", no matter what you do with it will divide people. Period. They need to abolish all references to "race", all boxes asking for "race", all statistics broken down by "race" etc. All has to go. Make the idea of a mythical "race" be illegal. There's only one race, the human race. They can still teach the idea behind critical race theory but make it be about poor verses well off. Well off people start with an advantage that poor people don't have. The poor can be light skinned or dark skinned people. Period. No "race". I don't know why society is still holding on to the outdated myth of "race" anyway. Cancel culture should just cancel "race" completely. Instead of talking about canceling genders, they need to cancel "race" and all notions or ideas of "race". Stop putting "race" on birth certificates.

Hopefully critical race theory will make them say cancel all notions of "race" period. Vilifying any "race" of people is not good or helpful. It's still keeping a focus on "race" which creates division. "Race" is a made up man made notion, it has no meaning or purpose other than division.

 

[stevil]

I wish this country would just do away with the whole notion of "race" anyway.

It would be great if that were possible. After all the entirety of the human race came from Africa. We are all Africans.

The myth of "race", no matter what you do with it will divide people. Period.

USA, it seems has a lot of racists. Just look how few Republicans voted to confirm Ketanji Brown Jackson, the first black woman in the history of USA to be confirmed on the SCOTUS.
112 white men, 1 black woman.
Jackson is highly qualified and has nothing controversial in her history and yet the vast majority of Republicans cannot vote to confirm her. Is it because they object or their base cannot support a black woman??

It's a real problem that cannot be ignored.

They need to abolish all references to "race", all boxes asking for "race", all statistics broken down by "race" etc. All has to go. Make the idea of a mythical "race" be illegal. There's only one race, the human race.

This approach would be a disaster for USA. It would wind the clock back, destroy all the progress that has happened. Blacks will be blocked from power, blocked from the high paid jobs, they would be kept in poverty, kept locked up in jail.
While white america can sit happy with their white supreme court, white presidents, white congress without having to be bothered with people pointing out these inequalities.

There is obvious a problem and this problem causes civil unrest. It cannot be simply wept under the rug and ignored. Something needs to be done.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Blacks will be blocked from power, blocked from the high paid jobs, they would be kept in poverty, kept locked up in jail.
While white america can sit happy with their white supreme court, white presidents, white congress without having to be bothered with people pointing out these inequalities.

So then it would be like yesterday.

 

[WolfGate]

When a college student (who has her tuition paid for by her dad who is working 70 hours a week) as a direct result of the tuition he's paying for, tells her dad that he's privileged, it's really quite demoralizing. Especially when their black neighbors get free tuition through Affirmative Action.
I would complain, too.

Exhibit A in essentialsaltes list. "Parents don't know what CRT is".

 

[NxNW]

When a college student (who has her tuition paid for by her dad who is working 70 hours a week) as a direct result of the tuition he's paying for, tells her dad that he's privileged, it's really quite demoralizing. Especially when their black neighbors get free tuition through Affirmative Action.

Not a real-world example.

 

[NxNW]

One little girl came home from school and asked, "Mommy, am I the devil?"

Sounds like something we were taught in Sunday School.

 

[NxNW]

I guess since Obama was elected all racial disparity was erased.

And all that talk about his birth certificate never happened.

 

[DaisyDay]

I agree with that. But awareness of my skin tone isn't going to contribute anything of real value to how I treat my black family and friends. Thankfully, we think CRT is nonsense because we love each other for who we are including our color.

That might be true but not if you don’t understand that they may be treated quite differently than you by many people and institutions because of that difference in skin tone.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

The story basically hits all the high points of my prediction.

Parents don't know what CRT is.
Parents complain about something.
School authorities agree the lesson is valuable and not CRT, but hey parents are complaining.
One person is let go, and other teachers are afraid to speak on the topic.
As intended, a chilling effect on discussing anything race-related in the classroom.

Have you seen the 15 questions? I want to see it. Anyone have a copy?

Teachers have no right to inquire into student's personal lives, so that would be inappropriate, if that occurred.

Anything that treats some students as "oppressors" and others as "oppressed" is indeed derived from CRT beliefs. If there is anything like this included - as opposed to general discussion of racism and disparities (which is fine) - then that would be inappropriate as well.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

I am tired of these liberals with their agendas that are trying to demonize the white race. When I went to school in Alabama and Mississippi back in the 1980s, we was taught from real history books that were approved by the State that the slaves were happy being slaves and didn't want the burden of freedom and having to think for themselves. They even stayed on their former masters plantations and worked for free after the war. That's how much they enjoyed the particular institution that took really good care of them.
Now they are trying to say it was a bad thing and white people are somehow responsible and it.

No one was actually taught this back in the day. But sarcasm noted.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

USA is a crazy place. Half the people are sane but are trying to accommodate for the other half.
The other half are completely insane and hate anything to with the first half.

It's ok. They keep swapping the higher offices. So we get both perspectives. It's insane now, but eventually will be sane again.

Hopefully, some day, people will get it and remove all funding from campaigns and parties, and we eventually just vote for people with the best policy ideas, who aren't purchasable, because no one funded them to get them in office.

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

These are high school students. I don’t see the problem with challenging them with the concept of privilege and opening a discussion.

Agreed. It is fine to challenge them on the concepts of privilege or racism. It is NOT fine to categorize them as oppressed and oppressors personally, which is what ends up happening in these scenarios.