Solution to the creation/evolution debate...?

[Neogaia777]

I have all those things already, thanks.



Why would I want to be ahead of some others or many others in any ways in heaven?

Well, as to the first, I hope you do, and that they will last, etc, and as to the second, if that is your primary motive or motivation or reason, then you've completely missed the point, and probably don't have those things anyway, etc...

God Bless!

 

[TLK Valentine]

and as to the second, if that is your primary motive or motivation or reason, then you've completely missed the point, and probably don't have those things anyway, etc...

God Bless!

It was your attempt at enticement --you said I would be ahead of many others in the next life (in some way which you understandably won't specify).

I ask you: Why would I want that?

 

[Neogaia777]

It was your attempt at enticement --you said I would be ahead of many others in the next life (in some way which you understandably won't specify).

I ask you: Why would I want that?

You shouldn't want it, but the fact still stands and/or remains that you will probably still be ahead of many others or some others in a lot of ways or in many ways anyway...

And "what"...? you want me to "lie about it", etc...?

Because I'm not doing that, etc...

God will place you where He is going to place you, end of story, etc...

And those who grumble and/or complain about it will probably wind up at the bottom or at the lower places probably, etc...

But each one should be "content" with wherever God chooses to place them, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

It was your attempt at enticement --you said I would be ahead of many others in the next life (in some way which you understandably won't specify).

I ask you: Why would I want that?

And no, I am not trying to "entice" you, etc...

Because if it does, then that comes from your own still yet wicked heart, that hasn't been fully cleansed and/or made completely clean yet, etc...

I'm just telling you the truth, etc...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

It was your attempt at enticement --you said I would be ahead of many others in the next life (in some way which you understandably won't specify).

I ask you: Why would I want that?

And I cannot tell you in what ways specifically also, but God will tell us all when we get there, etc...

And we need to be "content" with that, etc...

God Bless!

 

[TLK Valentine]

You shouldn't want it, but the fact still stands and/or remains that you will probably still be ahead of many others or some others in a lot of ways or in many ways anyway...

So... why would you offer me something that I shouldn't want?

And "what"...? you want me to "lie about it", etc...?

Because I'm not doing that, etc...

Then tell me the truth -- is "the next life" going to have any other temptations that I shouldn't want?

God will place you where He is going to place you, end of story, etc...

Oh, but it isn't the end of the story -- you just keep adding more and more to it...

Apparently, even in heaven, there will be status (and its lack) and inequality -- the "haves," and the "have-nots." As above, so below, etc...

And those who grumble and/or complain about it will probably wind up at the bottom or at the lower places probably, etc...

Ah, so even in heaven itself, one can be damned...

You're making the next life sound less and less appealing, you know that, right? Just more of the same.

But each one should be "content" with wherever God chooses to place them, etc...

Then why would I seek out anything you're offering? What does anyone gain by listening to your temptations?

 

[TLK Valentine]

And I cannot tell you in what ways specifically also, but God will tell us all when we get there, etc...

And we need to be "content" with that, etc...

God Bless!

Incorrect. You choose to be content with that, but I demand to read the fine print on the contract.

And the worst part of it is, none of this has anything to do with evolution or creationism, but it looks like the attempts to tie all that together neatly went bust a while ago...

 

[Neogaia777]

So... why would you offer me something that I shouldn't want?

You shouldn't desire to be great or greater than others in Heaven, but you should always desire good things, etc...

Then tell me the truth -- is "the next life" going to have any other temptations that I shouldn't want?

Lot's maybe, depends on your own heart when you get there, etc...

But they will not last very long once everything is determined or decided there, etc...

Apparently, even in heaven, there will be status (and its lack) and inequality -- the "haves," and the "have-nots." As above, so below, etc...

Those who do get to be in the higher places will not see it that way, and neither will the ones in the lower places either once they are made to fully realize why they are there, or what put them there, etc...

Ah, so even in heaven itself, one can be damned...

One can lose out on a higher place, etc...

You're making the next life sound less and less appealing, you know that, right? Just more of the same.

Sorry you see it that way, etc...

Then why would I seek out anything you're offering? What does anyone gain by listening to your temptations?

You are being "tempted"...?

Huh, that's weird...?

I wonder where that comes from, etc...?

Because I'm not telling you to seek anything out if you don't want to, but you can decide for yourself, etc...

I'm just telling you "the truth", that's all, etc...

You do what you will or whatever you want with it, etc, OK...

Because I'm not trying to force you to choose anything in particular, but am just presenting the truth only, etc, OK...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Incorrect. You choose to be content with that, but I demand to read the fine print on the contract.

Demand/choose/think/believe/do not believe, anything you want to or like, or else don't like, etc...

Because I'm not here to "force you" to do otherwise, etc...

Oh, and you have the fine print of the contract, and can read it anytime you like, etc...

And the worst part of it is, none of this has anything to do with evolution or creationism, but it looks like the attempts to tie all that together neatly went bust a while ago...

We can get back to or on that anytime you like, because it pretty much ended or stopped being talked about when I asked you all to just simply "show me the holes" in my theory, etc, and not one single one of you has been able to yet, etc, so we can continue that anytime you like, etc...?

God Bless!

 

[TLK Valentine]

You shouldn't desire to be great or greater than others in Heaven, but you should always desire good things, etc...

Right -- for its own sake ... so why offer me greater status in heaven?

Lot's maybe, depends on your own heart when you get there, etc...

But they will not last very long once everything is determined or decided there, etc...

So... it's going to be a mess at first, but then everything is going to work out fine?

Isn't that the spiel used to describe this world?

Those who do get to be in the higher places will not see it that way, and neither will the ones in the lower places either once they are made to fully realize why they are there, or what put them there, etc...

How will they be forced to see it? Spiritual lobotomy?

How does one force another to accept their lot in (after)life?

One can lose out on a higher place, etc...

...and one can take it, by hook or by crook.

Sorry you see it that way, etc...

Sorry that you describe it that way -- so either you're quite mistaken, or sorry that it is that way.

You are being "tempted"...?

Not very effectively...

Huh, that's weird...?

I wonder where that comes from, etc...?

Because I'm not telling you to seek anything out if you don't want to, but you can decide for yourself, etc...

I'm just telling you "the truth", that's all, etc...

You do what you will or whatever you want with it, etc, OK...

Because I'm not trying to force you to choose anything in particular, but am just presenting the truth only, etc, OK...

God Bless!

Good because the "truth" is that the place that you're describing sounds like, at best, no different from where we are now, and at worse, a shambling mockery of it.

So why would I possibly want to go there?

 

[Neogaia777]

@TLK Valentine

These places will not be "permanent" necessarily, but will only be where you "start", etc, but and/or because there will be much learning and change and growth for us in Heaven, and one can always work their way up from where they are at and/or start off, after the initial starting places are all decided and/or determined, etc, OK...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Right -- for its own sake ... so why offer me greater status in heaven?

I didn't offer you greater status in Heaven, etc...

But just told you there would be, etc...

At least to start anyway, etc...

So... it's going to be a mess at first, but then everything is going to work out fine?

Isn't that the spiel used to describe this world?

First comes the judging or judgment and/or sorting out, etc, which will decide and/or determine everything else, or all, from there, etc...

How will they be forced to see it? Spiritual lobotomy?

How does one force another to accept their lot in (after)life?

I said made, not forced, and this will by their knowing it in their own heart, etc...

...and one can take it, by hook or by crook.

No comment, etc...

Sorry that you describe it that way -- so either you're quite mistaken, or sorry that it is that way.

No, I accept it for it is, etc...

Not very effectively...

Good, because I'm not trying to, etc...

Good because the "truth" is that the place that you're describing sounds like, at best, no different from where we are now, and at worse, a shambling mockery of it.

Whatever...

So why would I possibly want to go there?

So don't, if you don't want to, etc...

God Bless!

 

[TLK Valentine]

Demand/choose/think/believe/do not believe, anything you want to or like, or else don't like, etc...

Because I'm not here to "force you" to do otherwise, etc...

Oh, and you have the fine print of the contract, and can read it anytime you like, etc...

Well, what I've got so far is that the next world is going to be every bit as dysfunctional as this one -- only minus the ability to fix it.

We can get back to or on that anytime you like, because it pretty much ended or stopped being talked about when I asked you all to just simply "show me the holes" in my theory, etc, and not one single one of you has been able to yet, etc, so we can continue that anytime you like, etc...?

God Bless!

Pretty much a lost cause at this point -- after all, God and heaven are the subjects you claim expert knowledge of, and that illusion has shattered like a glass hammer under scrutiny. Might be time to quit while you're behind.

 

[TLK Valentine]

@TLK Valentine

These places will not be "permanent" necessarily, but will only be where you "start", etc, but and/or because there will be much learning and change and growth for us in Heaven, and one can always work their way up from where they are at and/or start off, after the initial starting places are all decided and/or determined, etc, OK...

God Bless!

Again, just like Earth. So why serve the system when you can just as (if not far more) easily cheat it?

You know... just like Earth.

 

[TLK Valentine]

I didn't offer you greater status in Heaven, etc...

But just told you there would be, etc...

At least to start anyway, etc...

Still not seeing the appeal -- but then again, I'm not supposed to.

It'll be there, but as one of those things I shouldn't want.

What it's doing in heaven in the first place makes no sense whatsoever.

First comes the judging or judgment and/or sorting out, etc, which will decide and/or determine everything else, or all, from there, etc...

God gets to decide who His favorites are, eh?

As above, so below. Why should that interest me?

Oh, right -- it shouldn't.

I said made, not forced, and this will by their knowing it in their own heart, etc...

You can explain something to someone six ways from Sunday and you still can't make them believe it -- they must choose to... and some simply won't.

No comment, etc...

Too bad -- you're describing an afterlife that's the spitting image of the current one... warts and all. You might want to comment on it.

No, I accept it for it is, etc...

Then it's nothing worth compromising my beliefs for.

 

[Neogaia777]

Well, what I've got so far is that the next world is going to be every bit as dysfunctional as this one -- only minus the ability to fix it.

Then you haven't been hearing what I have been saying, etc...

Pretty much a lost cause at this point -- after all, God and heaven are the subjects you claim expert knowledge of

You know, you are always saying words that I didn't say, etc...?

Do you do that with people often...?

Or are you just "not listening", etc...

I said "different", not "expert", etc...

and that illusion has shattered like a glass hammer under scrutiny.

Really...? When, where, or how...? "Show me", etc...

Might be time to quit while you're behind.

I'll "quit" when I am good and ready to, lol...

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Still not seeing the appeal -- but then again, I'm not supposed to.

It'll be there, but as one of those things I shouldn't want.

What it's doing in heaven in the first place makes no sense whatsoever.

One should always desire good things, etc...

But I have told you that already before, etc...

God gets to decide who His favorites are, eh?

As above, so below. Why should that interest me?

Oh, right -- it shouldn't.

God doesn't have favorites, but it's a matter of personal "responsibility", etc...

You can explain something to someone six ways from Sunday and you still can't make them believe it -- they must choose to... and some simply won't.

And I'm not trying to make you choose one way or the other, but you get to decide for yourself, etc...

Too bad -- you're describing an afterlife that's the spitting image of the current one... warts and all.

Sorry you see it that way...

You might want to comment on it.

I have no further comments beyond what I have already stated, and not what you are saying I am saying, etc...

Then it's nothing worth compromising my beliefs for.

Again, sorry you see it that way, but you choose whatever you will or whatever you like, OK...

God Bless!

 

[TLK Valentine]

One should always desire good things, etc...

But I have told you that already before, etc...

I was offering you the chance to explain it right.

God doesn't have favorites, but it's a matter of personal "responsibility", etc...

Responsibility for what?

And I'm not trying to make you choose one way or the other, but you get to decide for yourself, etc...

It's not about you:

"Those who do get to be in the higher places will not see it that way, and neither will the ones in the lower places either once they are made to fully realize why they are there, or what put them there, etc..."

Remember?

Sorry you see it that way...

Sorry you described it that way.

 

[Neogaia777]

Again, just like Earth. So why serve the system when you can just as (if not far more) easily cheat it?

You know... just like Earth.

It is not just like earth, but "whatever"...

I think you need to pay a little bit more closer attention to what I have been saying, etc...

And "cheat it"...? How is starting out from where you belong or should be, and you being fully aware of that, and then being able to move up from there, but only when you are ready for it, "cheating it" in any kind of way, etc...?

Because that doesn't even make sense, etc...?

You sure just "say things" a lot, etc...

God Bless!

 

[TLK Valentine]

It is not just like earth, but "whatever"...

I think you need to pay a little bit more closer attention to what I have been saying, etc...

And "cheat it"...? How is starting out from where you belong or should be, and you being fully aware of that, and then being able to move up from there, but only when you are ready for it, "cheating it" in any kind of way, etc...?

What if I'm not where I belong? What if I'm not where I should be?

What if I choose to disagree with the ones who tell me it is where I belong?