Freedom of Speech

[JacksBratt]

Freedom is a God given right. One of the main methods of taking our freedom from us is to control what we hear, say and understand to be true. Whether in education, current events or other issues.

The one who controls what information is available is truly in control.

Here is a great speech and God's hand at work.

In my opinion anyway....

AFPAC 3 || Andrew Torba: Builders for the Kingdom of God

 

[SkyWriting]

Freedom is a God given right.

But is it, really?

Colossians 4:1
Masters, treat your slaves justly and fairly, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven.

Exodus 21:16
“Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death.

Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ,

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

1 Peter 2:18
Servants, be subject to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the unjust.

Colossians 3:22-25
Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord. Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward. You are serving the Lord Christ. For the wrongdoer will be paid back for the wrong he has done, and there is no partiality.

1 Timothy 6:1-2
Let all who are under a yoke as slaves regard their own masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be reviled. Those who have believing masters must not be disrespectful on the ground that they are brothers; rather they must serve all the better since those who benefit by their good service are believers and beloved. Teach and urge these things.

Exodus 21:20-21
“When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

Luke 12:47-48
And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating. But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more.

Leviticus 25:44-46
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

Titus 2:9-10
Slaves are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior.

Ephesians 6:5-9
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ, not by the way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but as servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart, rendering service with a good will as to the Lord and not to man, knowing that whatever good anyone does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free. Masters, do the same to them, and stop your threatening, knowing that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and that there is no partiality with him.

1 Corinthians 7:21
Were you a slave when called? Do not be concerned about it. (But if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself of the opportunity.)

 

[JacksBratt]

But is it, really?

Colossians 4:1
Masters, treat your slaves justly and fairly, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven.

Exodus 21:16
“Whoever steals a man and sells him, and anyone found in possession of him, shall be put to death.

Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ,

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

1 Peter 2:18
Servants, be subject to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the unjust.

Colossians 3:22-25
Slaves, obey in everything those who are your earthly masters, not by way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but with sincerity of heart, fearing the Lord. Whatever you do, work heartily, as for the Lord and not for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the inheritance as your reward. You are serving the Lord Christ. For the wrongdoer will be paid back for the wrong he has done, and there is no partiality.

1 Timothy 6:1-2
Let all who are under a yoke as slaves regard their own masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be reviled. Those who have believing masters must not be disrespectful on the ground that they are brothers; rather they must serve all the better since those who benefit by their good service are believers and beloved. Teach and urge these things.

Exodus 21:20-21
“When a man strikes his slave, male or female, with a rod and the slave dies under his hand, he shall be avenged. But if the slave survives a day or two, he is not to be avenged, for the slave is his money.

Luke 12:47-48
And that servant who knew his master's will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating. But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more.

Leviticus 25:44-46
As for your male and female slaves whom you may have: you may buy male and female slaves from among the nations that are around you. You may also buy from among the strangers who sojourn with you and their clans that are with you, who have been born in your land, and they may be your property. You may bequeath them to your sons after you to inherit as a possession forever. You may make slaves of them, but over your brothers the people of Israel you shall not rule, one over another ruthlessly.

Titus 2:9-10
Slaves are to be submissive to their own masters in everything; they are to be well-pleasing, not argumentative, not pilfering, but showing all good faith, so that in everything they may adorn the doctrine of God our Savior.

Ephesians 6:5-9
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ, not by the way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but as servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart, rendering service with a good will as to the Lord and not to man, knowing that whatever good anyone does, this he will receive back from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free. Masters, do the same to them, and stop your threatening, knowing that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and that there is no partiality with him.

1 Corinthians 7:21
Were you a slave when called? Do not be concerned about it. (But if you can gain your freedom, avail yourself of the opportunity.)

Slaves of today and slavery in the bible... are not the same.. You should really read this:

Does the Bible Condone Slavery?

I would have thought that you, living in the US, would agree that "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

I'm Canadian and our Charter is similar. I hold modern slavery to be a sin and biblically wrong.

 

[miamited]

Hi @JacksBratt

Freedom is a God given right.

Do you know that there is only one right given in the Scriptures? And newsflash, it ain't freedom.

God bless,
Ted

 

[miamited]

Hi again @JacksBratt

that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

Hmmm. That didn't seem to work out for Jesus, Paul and quite a few of the other apostles. Probably should ask all those people that died in the flood what they thought of God's 'right to life'? Or how about those first born in Egypt? Liberty? God nowhere mentions that there is something referred to as liberty that every man has some right to. Pursuit of happiness? Again, ask those laying dead under the great tons and tons of water and how happy those parents of the dead first born in Egypt were.

It's actually just another manmade idea that man has some right to freedom and pursuit of happiness or liberty. I understand that many people have this idea that America was founded by some bunch of guys who understood the Scriptures, but none of those things mentioned in the preamble are actually confirmed in the Scriptures.

God bless,
Ted

 

[disciple Clint]

Hi again @JacksBratt



Hmmm. That didn't seem to work out for Jesus, Paul and quite a few of the other apostles. Probably should ask all those people that died in the flood what they thought of God's 'right to life'? Or how about those first born in Egypt? Liberty? God nowhere mentions that there is something referred to as liberty that every man has some right to. Pursuit of happiness? Again, ask those laying dead under the great tons and tons of water and how happy those parents of the dead first born in Egypt were.

It's actually just another manmade idea that man has some right to freedom and pursuit of happiness or liberty. I understand that many people have this idea that America was founded by some bunch of guys who understood the Scriptures, but none of those things mentioned in the preamble are actually confirmed in the Scriptures.

God bless,
Ted

They are all part of the dignity of man and the rights each person has been given by God. There is a entire division of theology devoted to these concepts.

 

[SkyWriting]

Slaves of today and slavery in the bible... are not the same.. You should really read this:

Does the Bible Condone Slavery?

I would have thought that you, living in the US, would agree that "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

I'm Canadian and our Charter is similar. I hold modern slavery to be a sin and biblically wrong.

The issue is does the Bible condemn slavery. And the answer is no. There is no condemnation for owning other people or abusing those that are owned. Because all of Israel was a nation of slaves. So scripture explained how slaves should obey their masters. That has not changed.

 

[SilverBear]

Slaves of today and slavery in the bible... are not the same.. You should really read this:

Does the Bible Condone Slavery?

this line of reasoning always struck me as a very poor attempt at spin doctoring and it falls apart pretty quick when you bring it out into the light

 

[disciple Clint]

The issue is does the Bible condemn slavery. And the answer is no. There is no condemnation for owning other people or abusing those that are owned. Because all of Israel was a nation of slaves. So scripture explained how slaves should obey their masters. That has not changed.

Here is some good information on the history of the church on this subject.
Freedom of Speech

 

[miamited]

They are all part of the dignity of man and the rights each person has been given by God. There is a entire division of theology devoted to these concepts.

Hi @disciple Clint

That may well be. There's also an entire division of theology devoted to the concept of Sharia law. Newsflash!!! That doesn't mean it's Scriptural. Yes, God desires that His people live long and fruitful lives, but that isn't any right and the only mention of such a concept is for His people. Not the world at large. He told the Israelites that IF they would be obedient that they would be blessed with a plethora of 'good' things happening in their lives. He never said it was their right and it was based on the initial act of one's obedience to Him.

So, you're welcome to believe what you will and hold all of the divisions of theology that are devoted to such concepts up as your proof all you like. It just ain't so. There is nowhere in the Scriptures that God ever, ever, ever makes any claim to people having some 'right' to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I'm not even sure that the word 'happiness' is even in the Scriptures and I'm confident that there isn't any teaching that it is man's right to pursue it. What God offers is peace. Peace with Him through faith in His Son. Again, using Paul's life example, he certainly had spiritual peace with God, but he most certainly did not experience peace outside of the fellowship of believers as he did the work that God had set aside for him to do. The unbelievers of the world beat him and flogged him and imprisoned him in chains many times. Jesus was sought out to be killed and beaten and flogged and nailed to a cross. Peace? Only internal spiritual peace. And every born again believer in the one true and living God should have that peace. If they don't, then there's likely some disconnect between their words and their heart. No one is guaranteed that peace either, except those obedient to God. I don't think anyone would look across the landscape of America and declare, "those people, as a lot, are obedient to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob." For all those who aren't such people among us, there's no God given 'right' to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. That's a purely made up, man inspired, idea on which a nation of mankind has established their basic principles of governance. It is something that the founding fathers believed may have been a 'right' given by the Creator, but it isn't anywhere in the Scriptures.

God bless,
Ted

 

[JacksBratt]

Hi again @JacksBratt



Hmmm. That didn't seem to work out for Jesus, Paul and quite a few of the other apostles. Probably should ask all those people that died in the flood what they thought of God's 'right to life'? Or how about those first born in Egypt? Liberty? God nowhere mentions that there is something referred to as liberty that every man has some right to. Pursuit of happiness? Again, ask those laying dead under the great tons and tons of water and how happy those parents of the dead first born in Egypt were.

It's actually just another manmade idea that man has some right to freedom and pursuit of happiness or liberty. I understand that many people have this idea that America was founded by some bunch of guys who understood the Scriptures, but none of those things mentioned in the preamble are actually confirmed in the Scriptures.

God bless,
Ted

You are going to go to the people who died in the flood? Those that had evil thoughts continually? Those that were preached to by Noah for 100 years? Those that were so evil that God choose to wipe them from the face of the earth?

Yep, even those had the same right to life that you and I have... the right that no human can take away...

However, the one true God and creator of this universe can take it from you whenever He feels fit.

 

[JacksBratt]

The issue is does the Bible condemn slavery. And the answer is no. There is no condemnation for owning other people or abusing those that are owned. Because all of Israel was a nation of slaves. So scripture explained how slaves should obey their masters. That has not changed.

Guess you didn't read it.
In the bible, the word for what they translate as "slave" is not what we call slaves.
Slaves were usually people working to pay off a debt.
Others were treated like family.. Not what we know of as slavery.
There is more in that article.. but... it goes wasted when people don't read it.

 

[miamited]

Hi @JacksBratt

Yep, even those had the same right to life that you and I have... the right that no human can take away...

Apparently in the year 2020, there were 743 people, in Canada, who had their 'right to life' taken away by another human being. So, I honestly don't know where you're getting this 'promised right to life' that you claim God gives us, or the idea that no human can take it away.

God bless,
Ted

 

[public hermit]

Freedom is a God given right. One of the main methods of taking our freedom from us is to control what we hear, say and understand to be true. Whether in education, current events or other issues.

The one who controls what information is available is truly in control.

Here is a great speech and God's hand at work.

In my opinion anyway....

AFPAC 3 || Andrew Torba: Builders for the Kingdom of God

Jesus Christ is not a Christian Nationalist, and he's certainly not a White Nationalist.

AFPAC is about as rotten as it gets. I mean Nick Fuentes, whom the volks at the Daily Stormer love, is all that needs to be said.

Wow, this is really trashy stuff. I'll be generous and assume you didn't know; you might think about getting your opinions from better sources.

Nick Fuentes - Wikipedia

America First Political Action Conference - Wikipedia

 

[JacksBratt]

Hi @JacksBratt



Apparently in the year 2020, there were 743 people, in Canada, who had their 'right to life' taken away by another human being. So, I honestly don't know where you're getting this 'promised right to life' that you claim God gives us, or the idea that no human can take it away.

God bless,
Ted

Care to expand on your claim?

 

[JacksBratt]

Jesus Christ is not a Christian Nationalist, and he's certainly not a White Nationalist.

AFPAC is about as rotten as it gets. I mean Nick Fuentes, whom the volks at the Daily Stormer love, is all that needs to be said.

Wow, this is really trashy stuff. I'll be generous and assume you didn't know; you might think about getting your opinions from better sources.

Nick Fuentes - Wikipedia

America First Political Action Conference - Wikipedia

sorry, I have no idea what the point of your post is.

 

[public hermit]

sorry, I have no idea what the point of your post is.

That's okay, I'm pretty sure I know where you're coming from.

 

[disciple Clint]

Hi @disciple Clint

That may well be. There's also an entire division of theology devoted to the concept of Sharia law. Newsflash!!! That doesn't mean it's Scriptural. Yes, God desires that His people live long and fruitful lives, but that isn't any right and the only mention of such a concept is for His people. Not the world at large. He told the Israelites that IF they would be obedient that they would be blessed with a plethora of 'good' things happening in their lives. He never said it was their right and it was based on the initial act of one's obedience to Him.

So, you're welcome to believe what you will and hold all of the divisions of theology that are devoted to such concepts up as your proof all you like. It just ain't so. There is nowhere in the Scriptures that God ever, ever, ever makes any claim to people having some 'right' to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I'm not even sure that the word 'happiness' is even in the Scriptures and I'm confident that there isn't any teaching that it is man's right to pursue it. What God offers is peace. Peace with Him through faith in His Son. Again, using Paul's life example, he certainly had spiritual peace with God, but he most certainly did not experience peace outside of the fellowship of believers as he did the work that God had set aside for him to do. The unbelievers of the world beat him and flogged him and imprisoned him in chains many times. Jesus was sought out to be killed and beaten and flogged and nailed to a cross. Peace? Only internal spiritual peace. And every born again believer in the one true and living God should have that peace. If they don't, then there's likely some disconnect between their words and their heart. No one is guaranteed that peace either, except those obedient to God. I don't think anyone would look across the landscape of America and declare, "those people, as a lot, are obedient to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob." For all those who aren't such people among us, there's no God given 'right' to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. That's a purely made up, man inspired, idea on which a nation of mankind has established their basic principles of governance. It is something that the founding fathers believed may have been a 'right' given by the Creator, but it isn't anywhere in the Scriptures.

God bless,
Ted

the attached should clearly provide the Christian view on this.

 

[miamited]

Hi @JacksBratt

Care to expand on your claim?

No problem. According to a quick Google search, while the total number, depending on what site you go to is off by a few dozen, there were 743 homicides in Canada in 2020: Homicide in Canada, 2020

That would be 743 people that some person was able, despite your claim that it's an impossibility, to take their right to life.

Yep, even those had the same right to life that you and I have... the right that no human can take away...

God bless,
Ted

 

[miamited]

Hi again @JacksBratt

the attached should clearly provide the Christian view on this.

I'm not following your line of reasoning here that because the Scriptures do establish a lot, if not all, of mankind's 'morals', how that somehow relates to any idea that we have a God given right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. You'll get no argument from me that many nations establish their laws on the moral teachings of the Scriptures found basically in the 10 commandment law. However, there is still nowhere in the Scriptures that I can find that also teaches that such moral teachings provide a pathway of understanding that people then have a God given right to the 'rights' associated with the preamble. Yes, I do believe that in God's sight, all men are created equal, but even Daniel treated the king with a deference that he didn't use on others because of the kings position of authority over him. So, while they may be created equal, even in America we don't actually treat all men equal.

Nevertheless, the equality teachings of the Scriptures do not address the issue that God's word provides us with any teaching that people have the certain 'inalienable rights' found in the preamble.

God bless,
Ted