Evolution happens

[Mr Laurier]

Evolution claims that complex life ... created itself ... from non-life ... in a swamp ... of gases and lifeless chemicals, etc.

NO IT DOES NOT!
Evolution claims NOTHING. It is a silent process.
A simple process of biological replication, with errors. And the filtering of those errors into three categories.
1- Beneficial
2- Detrimental
3- Neutral.

 

[Mr Laurier]

I'm a True Christian.

So what.
So was Mr Charles Darwin

 

[AV1611VET]

If by "AncestryDNA" you mean any of those online "services" that finds your very important ancestors... then no.
Those are just an extension of those "past life regression" hucksters.

If you mean actual DNA testing? Then yes.
Cheddar Man being a very good example.

Wow ... they took his DNA and made a face.

The trick is to take his DNA and link it with others to make an unbroken chain, right up to modern times.

Or, at the least, make an unbroken chain, right up to where his "kind" becomes another "kind" (genus).

The fact is though, you can't prove he had any children.

 

[Mr Laurier]

How many times has carbon dating been wrong?

Whenever it has been misused for dishonest purposes

 

[AV1611VET]

So what. So was Mr Charles Darwin

From his death bed, yes (or six months prior).

 

[Mr Laurier]

Wow ... they took his DNA and made a face.

No. Try again AV.

The trick is to take his DNA and link it with others to make an unbroken chain, right up to modern times.
.

No. The trick was to try to pretend that someone took anybody's DNA, and made a face.
that trick failed.

 

[Mr Laurier]

From his death bed, yes (or six months prior).

No. From his childhood indoctrination, until after the death of his daughter.
Which was AFTER he published Origins of Species.

 

[Mr Laurier]

Shouldn’t we still be seeing examples of attempted evolutionary life forms that failed since apparently this has been going on for millions of years?

That would require evolution to be a choice. A decision.
The only attempt made, was when human politicians decided to adopt eugenics.
It failed.

 

[AV1611VET]

No. Try again AV.

No. The trick was to try to pretend that someone took anybody's DNA, and made a face.
that trick failed.

Ya ... um ...

Thanks to new technology, researchers at University College London and the Natural History Museum were recently able to genetically analyze the skeleton using DNA extracted from the skull and to make a facial reconstruction.

SOURCE

What makes you think it failed?

 

[Mr Laurier]

According to them, there have been countless cat-dog remains found strewn all throughout history.

Haven't you heard?

According to who?
Given that no such remains have ever been documented... you might want to check your sources

 

[Mr Laurier]

Ya ... um ...

SOURCE

What makes you think it failed?

The fact that I'm not convinced

 

[AV1611VET]

No. From his childhood indoctrination, until after the death of his daughter.
Which was AFTER he published Origins of Species.

So Lady Hope visited him more than once?

 

[AV1611VET]

The fact that I'm not convinced.

I'm not either.

As I said, DNA can only go back about one thousand years, then it crashes and burns.

 

[Mr Laurier]

In other words, your camp has absolutely NO CLUE how life began besides God's Creation. You just tell a story about what happened AFTER the most critical part.

That's about as good as "Once upon a time there was nothing ... THEN IT EXPLODED AND BECAME EVERYTHING!!!"

I made my point very clear. Abiogenesis is a PART of the science that explains how all of life came about. Call it whatever you like, it is the complete opposite of Creationism. And that's what matters in this discussion.

Wow.
Just wow.

 

[Mr Laurier]

So Lady Hope visited him more than once?

No. LESS than once.
Lady Hope NEVER SET FOOT IN THE DARWIN HOME.

 

[Mr Laurier]

I'm not either.

As I said, DNA can only go back about one thousand years, then it crashes and burns.

Given that we have FOUND DNA that is over 75 million years old...

 

[AV1611VET]

Lady Hope NEVER SET FOOT IN THE DARWIN HOME.

She said she did.

And since I didn't take the academic classes you took, okay with you if I believe she did?

 

[Mr Laurier]

Where has macro evolution ever happened?

Same place that macro digestion happened.
And macro gestation.

 

[AV1611VET]

Given that we have FOUND DNA that is over 75 million years old...

Fine ... you found DNA from allegedly 75 million years old.

What can you do with it -- besides nothing?

 

[Mr Laurier]

She said she did.

She lied

And since I didn't take the academic classes you took, okay with you if I believe she did?

What academic classes did I take?
Oh yeah.... NONE!
Its not about me. Its about truth vs lies