Evolution happens

[Yttrium]

How did life originate, how did non living now become living?

Scientifically speaking, that's a really good question, generating a lot of research. As far as the science of biologic evolution goes, though, it doesn't matter. However the first population of living organisms came about (naturally or supernaturally), biologic evolution takes over from there.

 

[YeshuaFan]

Scientifically speaking, that's a really good question, generating a lot of research. As far as the science of biologic evolution goes, though, it doesn't matter. However the first population of living organisms came about (naturally or supernaturally), biologic evolution takes over from there.

There seems to theistgic evolutionists who do accept that God exists, but majority are secular atheists!

 

[Yttrium]

There seems to theistgic evolutionists who do accept that God exists, but majority are secular atheists!

Even if so (and I doubt it), that's irrelevant when it comes to science. A scientific theory doesn't become invalid just because some people make it part of their personal philosophy on life, the universe, and everything.

 

[Subduction Zone]

There seems to theistgic evolutionists who do accept that God exists, but majority are secular atheists!

You would need to find a valid source for that claim. Now it may be true in the world of science, there is a higher percentage of atheists among them. But when it comes to what the average person believes I am fairly sure that you are wrong.

 

[Subduction Zone]

How did life originate, how did non living now become living?

We do not know for sure yet. But we do have quite a bit of scientific evidence that supports abiogenesis. Why can't believers in God find any scientific evidence for their beliefs?

dating processes totally screwed up!

No, we know that the dating processes are very accurate. They have gotten more and more accurate over the years. And the Earth was known to be many millions of years old at least long before radiometric dating was invented. Would you care to learn how we know that?

 

[AV1611VET]

Why can't believers in God find any scientific evidence for their beliefs?

Why? did we lose something?

If you can't find it, why do you expect us to?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Why? did we lose something?

If you can't find it, why do you expect us to?

No, you never had it. You appear only to have a false belief. You are once again behaving improperly. In this science based part of the forum one needs to be able to support one's claims with scientific evidence. In the same way in the news section one needs a news story to even open a thread. Can you properly support your claims? If not what are you doing here? You may be violating the TOS of this part of the forum. You might want to consider sticking to the Christian creation vs evolution part of the forum. Your approach may work there.

 

[AV1611VET]

In this science based part of the forum one needs to be able to support one's claims with scientific evidence.

In other words, leave my claims at the front door ... right?

 

[Subduction Zone]

In other words, leave my claims at the front door ... right?

You should not be making claims that you cannot properly support. I never claimed to be an official here, that is why I have also used qualifying terms such as "appears" and "may". If I actually called you a troll that would be breaking the rules itself. I have not reported you for your posts here that do appear to violate the Statement of Purpose of this part of the forum, nor do I intend to.

Statement of Purpose - Physical & Life Sciences Statement of Purpose

But who knows? Someone else may. From the above statement of purpose:

"Do not flame other views. Christianity cannot be called a myth, and science cannot be called a religion or made up. Threads started, or responses made, to simply disparage science will be considered off topic to the forum."

You do appear to violate that one at times. Especially the last sentence. It tells us quite a bit when you do not seem to be able to support your beliefs following the way one is supposed to according to the SOP.


Claims are fine. If one can support them properly. Flaming, whether of Christianity or science, is not allowed.

 

[AV1611VET]

I have not reported you for your posts here that do appear to violate the Statement of Purpose of this part of the forum, nor do I intend to.

You're a nice man!

 

[YeshuaFan]

Even if so (and I doubt it), that's irrelevant when it comes to science. A scientific theory doesn't become invalid just because some people make it part of their personal philosophy on life, the universe, and everything.

It takes more faith to accept evolution then to accept God exists!

 

[Subduction Zone]

It takes more faith to accept evolution then to accept God exists!

Not true at all. You are merely repeating a lie that was told to you. The evidence for evolution is stronger than the evidence for gravity. Do you take gravity on faith?

Perhaps you should start to learn how we know that we are the product of evolution.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You're a nice man!

I do sincerely try to be. I merely want a productive conversation.

 

[Yttrium]

It takes more faith to accept evolution then to accept God exists!

Neither requires any faith at all. You can accept an idea based on what you perceive to be the preponderance of the evidence. That's not a full commitment. That's "I think it's probably true, but I could easily be wrong".

To have firm belief in either God or ToE does involve faith. I'm not into the whole faith thing myself. Just doesn't work for me.

 

[Astrophile]

Jesus verified it, and he was and is God!

This is a good example of the fallacy of begging the question (petitio principii), that is of founding a conclusion on a basis that as much needs to be proved as the conclusion itself.

 

[Astrid]

Neither requires any faith at all. You can accept an idea based on what you perceive to be the preponderance of the evidence. That's not a full commitment. That's "I think it's probably true, but I could easily be wrong".

To have firm belief in either God or ToE does involve faith. I'm not into the whole faith thing myself. Just doesn't work for me.

Thats too much equivocation for me.

 

[Shemjaza]

It takes more faith to accept evolution then to accept God exists!

Really?

Can point out the specific points that need to be taken on faith?

 

[Astrid]

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[YeshuaFan]

Really?

Can point out the specific points that need to be taken on faith?

Where Universe came from, where and how life itself originated!

 

[Hans Blaster]

Where Universe came from, where and how life itself originated!

You just want the easy questions answered.

The Universe probably always existed in some form, but only recently began expanding. (Not sure why.)

Life is just a self-organizing, self-replicating chemical process. I would check there.