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My visit to St. Mary Orthodox was wonderful. Beautiful Liturgy, done well, with a superb choir. After Liturgy, several people greeted me. Later Sunday evening, I had a long phone call with Fr. Deacon Nicholas.

I feel everything has opened up for my transition. Elizabeth has not been upset in the several discussions we have had regarding my leaving the BCC and converting to Orthodoxy. My spiritual director pointed me to St. Mary's. It appears that he and the priest there are friends, and both went to St. Vlad's Seminary. Most of all, I have a sense that now is the time.

I will be sending out this letter tomorrow to Fr. A . . . . . . at the UCC parish I have been attending. It is getting real now.

Dear Father:

This is a most difficult letter for me to write, for I have developed a number of good friendships at Annunciation and have been privileged to serve the parish in a number of positions. Nonetheless, after a long struggle with my conscience and my beliefs, I feel it is time for me to leave Annunciation and go to a parish where the things I believe are not in conflict with the teachings of the BCC. Specifically, I will be converting to the Orthodoxy.

In the year 2000, as I studied the apostolic faith while still a Protestant, I was told that I could be “Orthodox in Communion with Rome,” also known as Byzantine Catholic. Not knowing fully all the differences between Eastern and Western theology, I thought this was an acceptable compromise to my desire to become Orthodox and my sense at that time that the Patriarch of Rome is the head of the Church on earth. I was mistaken in this ecclesial understanding, and also in what the term “in communion” means.

To be “in communion” means a common and united sharing of dogma and beliefs. The greatest sign of this communion is the Holy Communion of the Eucharist. This is why Protestants are not allowed to receive the Eucharist - they are not “in communion,” because of their not sharing the same beliefs that Orthodox and Catholics do. Therefore, while our communion with them is one of Christian charity, they cannot partake of the sign of communion - the Body and Blood of Christ.

It wasn’t until my third year in seminary that I became clearly aware of the vast difference between Eastern and Western theology, soteriology, ecclesiology, and anthropology. I was also becoming aware that rather than being Orthodox in these matters, as promised in the Union of Brest, BCC parishes are more “Roman Catholic Lite” with a strange Mass than they are actually Orthodox. I cannot begin to tell you how many BCC parishes I have attended which are filled with Latinizations and Roman practices such as praying the Rosary. When I first came to Annunciation, there were Stations of the Cross on the walls instead of the icons which are there now. The whole artwork of the parish suggested Roman Catholicism. For me, whose wish has been to be Orthodox since my conversion from Protestantism, this became an untenable situation, and it has only become worse over the last three years.

I do not belong at Annunciation parish because I do not accept the teaching of Indulgences, Purgatory, the Immaculate Conception, Treasury of Merit, Penal Substitution Soteriology, Papal Supremacy, Papal Infallibility, or the Filioque Clause to the Creed. These are the most egregious of Rome’s errors, errors that the Roman Catholic Church will have to reject before any form of real union can be restored between East and West. Yet as a Byzantine Catholic, the unspoken rule is that I must accept these teachings.

In short, I am Orthodox and not Roman Catholic or any of its derivatives. I can no longer ignore the voice of my conscience in this matter. It is therefore time for me to be joined to that body of believers with whom I have complete and total agreement in matters of faith and practice. Please know that I leave with regret and no anger toward anyone in the parish. If I have offended or sinned against anyone, I ask forgiveness.

Please continue to pray for me that this transition may be smooth and with a minimum of problems and/or hurt feelings.

My new parish:

Home - St. Mary's Orthodox (stmaryorthodox.org)
 

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Blessings on your journey. I would be curious to hear how your BCC priest responds.

I went to the parish today and returned all the parish books I had, along with some notebooks full of musical notations and Matins Prayers. After that, the letter was sent with my two keys to the parish attached to them.

My hope is that Fr. A will simply accept what I have written and move on with the parish. I really don't want to have any sort of long, drawn out, and possibly emotional discussion with him.

It's over. He needs to accept that.
 
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I sent this short email to Fr. Subu:

Dear Father Subu:

I am writing to inform you that I have tendered my formal resignation from the Ukrainian Catholic parish I have been attending and wish to be chrismated into the Orthodox faith. As a retired person, my time is free, therefore, I would be glad to meet with you at your convenience so that we might discuss this desire and you might ask of me any questions you need to ask. I am caretaker for my sick wife, so the best time for me would be any time after 11 AM.

I have had several conversations with Fr. Deacon Nicholas and I received a nice email from Anna Caraveli of the Connections team. Your people have really made me feel welcome as a visitor, and I hope that I might soon have the privilege of being a member of St. Mary's.

I received this reply:

Dear Edward,

May the Lord God bless you! We’d be honored to have you with us. Perhaps next week around 11:30 am by phone if you are available would be easiest, but I am happy to meet in person.

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EXCITED I AM!!
 
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I sent this short email to Fr. Subu:

Dear Father Subu:

I am writing to inform you that I have tendered my formal resignation from the Ukrainian Catholic parish I have been attending and wish to be chrismated into the Orthodox faith. As a retired person, my time is free, therefore, I would be glad to meet with you at your convenience so that we might discuss this desire and you might ask of me any questions you need to ask. I am caretaker for my sick wife, so the best time for me would be any time after 11 AM.

I have had several conversations with Fr. Deacon Nicholas and I received a nice email from Anna Caraveli of the Connections team. Your people have really made me feel welcome as a visitor, and I hope that I might soon have the privilege of being a member of St. Mary's.

I received this reply:

Dear Edward,

May the Lord God bless you! We’d be honored to have you with us. Perhaps next week around 11:30 am by phone if you are available would be easiest, but I am happy to meet in person.

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EXCITED I AM!!

praise God!
 
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Oh Dear!

Well, Elizabeth came down while I was watching the Super Bowl and asked me what I was doing about missing Mass because it is a "Holy Day of Obligation." Then she started to get upset that I am leaving the Catholic faith. I would like to share with her the things I have discovered and why I am heading to the Orthodox Church, but she wouldn't understand. Her education, if you could call it that, was Dominican nuns telling her the rules of the Church and warning her that if she didn't keep the rules she would go to hell. She has no idea - zip, zero, nada - of who the Early Fathers are, what they said, the councils of the Church, etc. In other words, she is pretty much a typical cultural Catholic except that she has some serious OCD issues that bleed over into her spiritual life.

Keep praying that this doesn't turn into a serious roadblock. She wants me to contact her priest about this. This could get messy.
 
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Oh Dear!

Well, Elizabeth came down while I was watching the Super Bowl and asked me what I was doing about missing Mass because it is a "Holy Day of Obligation." Then she started to get upset that I am leaving the Catholic faith. I would like to share with her the things I have discovered and why I am heading to the Orthodox Church, but she wouldn't understand. Her education, if you could call it that, was Dominican nuns telling her the rules of the Church and warning her that if she didn't keep the rules she would go to hell. She has no idea - zip, zero, nada - of who the Early Fathers are, what they said, the councils of the Church, etc. In other words, she is pretty much a typical cultural Catholic except that she has some serious OCD issues that bleed over into her spiritual life.

Keep praying that this doesn't turn into a serious roadblock. She wants me to contact her priest about this. This could get messy.

prayers!
 
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do you think it might be a good idea to talk to the priest?


Her priest? She asked him about being married to a non-Catholic the last time he came to the house to bring her the Eucharist and hear her confession. Afterwards, he wrote to me and suggested that I spend some time in prayer before the exposed Eucharist. And honestly, while I have my arguments down pat for leaving communion with Rome, I really don't want to get into any kind of messy debate. I'd like to just quietly leave and be chrismated into Orthodoxy.
 
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Her priest? She asked him about being married to a non-Catholic the last time he came to the house to bring her the Eucharist and hear her confession. Afterwards, he wrote to me and suggested that I spend some time in prayer before the exposed Eucharist. And honestly, while I have my arguments down pat for leaving communion with Rome, I really don't want to get into any kind of messy debate. I'd like to just quietly leave and be chrismated into Orthodoxy.

gotcha. just keep doing what you can to keep the peace as you join the Church.
 
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I had a nice brunch with Fr. David yesterday. He says he is looking to Pascha to have me chrismated, depending on my knowledge. He has sent me links to the catechetical classes that he is currently holding. I am working my way through the Sacraments now.

I gave him this analogy of my wanting to enter the Church: A man can watch a baseball game and say, "Wow, that looks like a lot of fun." He can then read all about playing baseball, get all the technical knowledge he can, and know that when you are playing shortstop and the ball is hit to you, you throw it to first. But when you are standing in at shortstop and the ball hits a small pebble and smacks you in the nose, that is a lot different than just reading about how to play the game."

When I shared this analogy with Fr. Deacon Nicholas, he said "Well, it's time to get you on the field."

Yup.

BTW - Fr. David mentioned to me that Bishop Nathaniel is a convert from the BCC and when he heard of my interest in converting, he was interested in why I want to convert.
 
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I had a nice brunch with Fr. David yesterday. He says he is looking to Pascha to have me chrismated, depending on my knowledge. He has sent me links to the catechetical classes that he is currently holding. I am working my way through the Sacraments now.

I gave him this analogy of my wanting to enter the Church: A man can watch a baseball game and say, "Wow, that looks like a lot of fun." He can then read all about playing baseball, get all the technical knowledge he can, and know that when you are playing shortstop and the ball is hit to you, you throw it to first. But when you are standing in at shortstop and the ball hits a small pebble and smacks you in the nose, that is a lot different than just reading about how to play the game."

When I shared this analogy with Fr. Deacon Nicholas, he said "Well, it's time to get you on the field."

Yup.

BTW - Fr. David mentioned to me that Bishop Nathaniel is a convert from the BCC and when he heard of my interest in converting, he was interested in why I want to convert.
Yep! He was originally Romanian Catholic. Here's his bio: The Holy Synod: The Most Reverend Nathaniel
 
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