Game over for the president

[Aldebaran]

Trump supporter took control over congress to overturn election.

Really? Can you give us his name?

 

[bekkilyn]

Did the violent attempted takeover of the Electoral process wake you up?

I don't recall that congress voted on such a bill.

 

[bekkilyn]

Have you seen any Marxist “wok “ culture climbed up to capital hill and take over capital hill? Have you seen any Marxist Senator not vote to certify legitimately elected POTUS? No, you have not. Because that never happened. All the things you are talking about Marxist would do is all in “theory” and “ Fear mongering”.

But you know what are the facts ?

Facts are Trump sent his goons to capital hills.

Trump supporter took control over congress to overturn election.

Elected official – 147 of Trump supporting GOP didn’t certify legitimately elected POTUS. That is call destroying democracy.

Yet you want to vote Trump in 2024?

I used to make arguments like yours just last year. Not anymore.

The Complex Relationship between Marxism and Wokeness

 

[bekkilyn]

Why every day is January 6 now.

"On January 1 of this year, the New York Times told us that "Every Day is January 6 Now." That's obviously absurd, hyperreal, pseudo-real, but it's also an echo from the past. While many have rightly made the comparison between that farce and the Reichstag Fire perpetrated by the National Socialists in order to grab power, I was immediately put in mind of a paragraph from Herbert Marcuse's 1965 essay "Repressive Tolerance" (https://www.marcuse.org/herbert/publi...) when I saw that headline. "The whole post-fascist period is one of clear and present danger. Consequently, true pacification requires the withdrawal of tolerance before the deed, at the stage of communication in word, print, and picture. Such extreme suspension of the right of free speech and free assembly is indeed justified only if the whole of society is in extreme danger. I maintain that our society is in such an emergency situation, and that it has become the normal state of affairs," Marcuse wrote. Every day is January 6 now, and our entire society is in such an emergency situation, one of clear and present danger. In this episode of my subscribers-only podcast, James Lindsay OnlySubs, which I'm taking out from behind the paywall and making available to everyone, I walk you through the crucial paragraphs of Marcuse's essay in light of this ridiculous and ridiculously dangerous pronouncement. Join me to learn even more about how we find ourselves living in Marcuse's nightmarish neo-Marxist philosophy. -James Lindsay"

 

[RestoreTheJoy]

Hi @disciple Clint

No, I don't see the draw out of Afghanistan as some 'disastrous' event. It was a hard pull out, but not significantly different from the hard pull out that we suffered after Vietnam. War isn't supposed to be fun and easy. But 'disastrous' is not how I would describe how we left Afghanistan.

Did Pres. Biden call people names in his Georgia speech? I don't remember hearing any. Did he point out some people, maybe, but that isn't name calling. At least not to me. Name calling is when you choose a derogatory sounding name to address someone or some group of people.

God bless,
Ted

You don't think it is disastrous that we left soldiers to die and allies as well inside Afghanistan, not to mention the BILLIONS of dollars of weapons that were merely handed over to the Taliban?

 

[bekkilyn]

You don't think it is disastrous that we left soldiers to die and allies as well inside Afghanistan, not to mention the BILLIONS of dollars of weapons that were merely handed over to the Taliban?

Oh I don't think we need to worry. It's all those terrorist parents who are the real threat to national security.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Oh I don't think we need to worry. It's all those terrorist parents who are the real threat to national security.

Indeed -- actually, it's the terrorist teachers who are apparently the real threat to America... at least according to the GOP.

 

[A_Thinker]

It will probably take some time before the president is replaced, ...

3 years, at least ...

 

[Tiberius Lee]

I used to make arguments like yours just last year. Not anymore.

The Complex Relationship between Marxism and Wokeness

Now you think teaching children in school is more dangerous then over throw election result?

 

[Tiberius Lee]

Indeed -- actually, it's the terrorist teachers who are apparently the real threat to America... at least according to the GOP.

Sometimes you have to wonder how on earth this country became the supper power! When so many Americans think education is threat to America.

 

[bekkilyn]

Now you think teaching children in school is more dangerous then over throw election result?

No, but that's not at all what I posted. Obviously, you don't have to read anything you don't want to, but perhaps there are others lurking in the thread who might be interested.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

The USA political system is often dysfunctional.
In the presidential election they vote in one party, in the midterms they vote in the opposite party and nowdays this means obstruction on almost everything.

But it is before the mid-terms and Democrats have barest of minimum majority in the Senate. With all Republicans voting against pretty much anything the Democrats bring forth, every single Democrat vote counts. But Manchin comes from a state that probably should be Republican and so he has lots of pressure to appease them and finds himself time and time again torpedoing his own party in the Senate.
Much joy for Republicans who think the goal is to deny Democrats any win at all, much saddness for the current administration and much more dysfunction for the entire country.

Personally I think it showcases to the world what a disaster the USA political system is. This is not a showcase on how countries should be run.

I tend to agree. It stems from the fact that we no longer follow the constitution as written and intended.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

I see .. so your idea of democracy is like POTUS send his goons to congress to overthrow the election result? I just hope for the sake of American democracy , we have less people like you in America.

We need more people on both sides that value truth. Trump did no such thing. Read his speech he gave earlier that day if you care about truth. Trump said this:

Now, it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down, we're going to walk down.

Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.

Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

and

So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give.

The Democrats are hopeless — they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

Where does he say to use violence to overthrow the result? He said to march and make your voices heard to encourage weak republicans.

 

[miamited]

You don't think it is disastrous that we left soldiers to die and allies as well inside Afghanistan, not to mention the BILLIONS of dollars of weapons that were merely handed over to the Taliban?

Hi @RestoreTheJoy

No, Because I didn't see any soldiers left to die or billions of dollars of weapons merely handed over. As far as any allies left behind, wouldn't that be the job of the respective allied forces to get their people out?

How many American soldiers did we leave to die? The billions of dollars of weapons is just a false flag scenario created by those who oppose the present administration. Yes, there was some military hardware and quite a lot of military equipment such as tents, sleeping bags and such. There were a lot of spare parts and goods left in place. Those were all left mainly because it's not cost effective to gather it all up and pack it and ship it back home.

Seems there's this entire scenario that says we left billions of dollars of top grade classified military weapons behind. That didn't happen, but those who want to believe evil things about the current administration are certainly free to believe that it did in their minds.

God bless,
Ted

 

[cow451]

I don't recall that congress voted on such a bill.

The Defeated Former President tried to go around the legal legislative process. You prefer an armed violent mob to the United States Congress? Interesting......

 

[Tiberius Lee]

We need more people on both sides that value truth. Trump did no such thing. Read his speech he gave earlier that day if you care about truth. Trump said this:

Now, it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we're going to walk down, and I'll be there with you, we're going to walk down, we're going to walk down.

Anyone you want, but I think right here, we're going to walk down to the Capitol, and we're going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we're probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.

Because you'll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

and

So we're going to, we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue. I love Pennsylvania Avenue. And we're going to the Capitol, and we're going to try and give.

The Democrats are hopeless — they never vote for anything. Not even one vote. But we're going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones because the strong ones don't need any of our help. We're going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.

So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

Where does he say to use violence to overthrow the result? He said to march and make your voices heard to encourage weak republicans.

Why did Trump send his supporter to congress? Peacefully do what ? Election is over, every vote was counted, every legal system has been tried. So why on earth he is sending his supporter to congress. .. what voice to be heard? there is nothing public can do on jan 6. There was no point trump to call his supporter to come to DC .

 

[bekkilyn]

The Defeated Former President tried to go around the legal legislative process. You prefer an armed violent mob to the United States Congress? Interesting......

I don't recall this President submitting a bill to congress along with an armed violent mob in order to get congress to federalize elections and remove power from the states.

 

[Clizby WampusCat]

Why did Trump send his supporter to congress? Peacefully do what ? Election is over, every vote was counted, every legal system has been tried. So why on earth he is sending his supporter to congress. .. what voice to be heard? there is nothing public can do on jan 6. There was no point trump to call his supporter to come to DC .

Trump believed the election results were fraudulent. If you read the speech he laid out his case and he says what he wants to happen. Some governors or government entities changed the voting rules against the US constitution. Such as Pennsylvania. US constitution says each states legislature makes the rules for elections not governors or bureaucrats. Trump said this:

States want to revote. The states got defrauded. They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.

This is a legal move Trump wanted, not a violent solution. Read what Trump said and not what the media or democrat's said he said.

 

[Aldebaran]

3 years, at least ...

Members of his own party are turning against him now, and are facing retaliation for not towing the line for them. When other members of that party realize this, along with seeing a hard road for them coming up this November, expect mutiny among them, and impeachment is possible. They won't accept kamala either. Perhaps Manchin?

 

[Aldebaran]

Now you think teaching children in school is more dangerous then over throw election result?

Teaching an entire generation of children to hate their own country? Yes, that is far more dangerous than one election result being questioned.