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Modern day systemic racism, does it exist?

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Blacks were not allowed to keep their home culture or language. Nonkidnapped immigrants have their home language and culture.
They need to build a another one. I don't have my ancesters language or culture. I'm an American. They can be Americans too, and are.
 
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They are pushed into the only places that will accept them. WHites are more readily accepted as renters.
People in these nicer white areas that you point out pay more in rent. Don't you think cheaper rent might explain why people live there? Where is your evidence they are being pushed in there?
 
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But I observe the same thing everywhere I've been, including smaller northern cities and all across the south. "Trailer park" is practically synonymous with "poor white."

Even down here in north Dallas suburbs, if there is a poorer area within the town, it's populated predominantly by blacks. In my city, we don't actually have a "hood," but it's an area within "old town" of tiny, old homes of black people that are well-kept...but on the other side of the old town center from the older homes of white people that were much, much nicer 60 years ago. However, go a bit north of old town and you run into the trailer park where the poor whites live.

I see that pattern all over. I don't know why.
The rent is cheap in trailer parks and the hood.
 
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It doesn't prevent them from access. I guess it's just social distancing.
So a lot of poor whites don't want to live in the inner city with poor blacks, and a lot of blacks don't want to live in Rural areas with poor whites? That sounds like personal choice not systemic racism.
Rentals advertise that they are section 8 and people on section 8 apply for those apartments.
So if more blacks wanted to live in a trailer park, there is nothing stopping them?
 
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It's a dysfunctional slave culture inculcated by slave owners over several generations to keep us slaves.
That might have been the case for my great grandpa, but for me or any of the other black people I know, that slave culture no longer exists.
 
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That might have been the case for my great grandpa, but for me or any of the other black people I know, that slave culture no longer exists.
How about the victim culture? I'm not saying Black americans haven't in the past been oppressed, but what is oppressing black americans today? Asians do better than whites do. Is that because whites are oppressed?
 
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How about the victim culture? I'm not saying Black americans haven't in the past been oppressed, but what is oppressing black americans today? Asians do better than whites do. Is that because whites are oppressed?

There was a lot of oppression of Asians, tho most Americans seem unaware.
 
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There was a lot of oppression of Asians, tho most Americans seem unaware.
I'm not unaware. Despite that oppression they gained civil rights when everyone did and they prospered.
 
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How about the victim culture? I'm not saying Black americans haven't in the past been oppressed, but what is oppressing black americans today? Asians do better than whites do. Is that because whites are oppressed?
In the US there is a lot of power in playing the victim. People like power.
 
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That might have been the case for my great grandpa, but for me or any of the other black people I know, that slave culture no longer exists.

Yes, yes it does. It existed in the 60s, it still exists today.

The baby-daddy/mother phenomenon is a facet of it, in which black women deliberately have children by a variety of men to secure multiple income streams. Also the high rate of black-on-black crime. Also the "crab bucket" phenomenon. Also the phenomenon of colorism and the hatred of our own aesthetic. Also black men disrespecting our own women, which no other ethnic group does. This is all cultural dysfunction. These are all elements of the slave culture inculcated into us by slaveholders.

The fact that we speak English, the fact that we understand Romeo and Juliet more easily than we would understand a 500-year-old story told in Ghanian by a Ghanian griot...that's culture that was inculcated into us by slaveholders.

Marcus Garvey told us this 100 years ago, Malcolm X told us about it 60 years ago, and it's still true.
 
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Blacks were not allowed to keep their home culture or language. Nonkidnapped immigrants have their home language and culture.

They aren't allowed? I thought blacks were born in America? What home culture do blacks want to have that prevents them from doing that?
 
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They are taking the jobs available to them. That's what. And the fact that they wind up with less well paying job might just be the racism you refuse to see.

Oh, you have evidence of that? Oh are you just putting your world view spin on things again. Cause the studies show your wrong.

Spoken like someone who has never failed to get exactly what he wanted all the time. Or spoken like someone who had everything handed to him.

You know nothing about me. I think it's your world view spinning things again into a false narrative.

Your mind has twisted reality into a narrative that you can't let go of. It's sad really. You make such terrible assumptions about people without knowing anything about them. In this you deny reality.

And that's a very large problem for you. I hope you are able to overcome it some day.
 
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They are taking the jobs available to them. That's what. And the fact that they wind up with less well paying job might just be the racism you refuse to see.



Spoken like someone who has never failed to get exactly what he wanted all the time. Or spoken like someone who had everything handed to him.



Spoken from immense privilege. Congrats! You are quite fortunate. (Cue the whine about how hard YOU worked for EVERYTHING you got!)
Whites struggle and are poor. Some blacks are rich. You think whites have everything handed to them and have everything they want? Who do we blame? The Asians?
 
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