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As to why we should value others lives or life in general, most of us "should", etc, but I guess not all people do this "equally" also, and maybe that is a problem, etc...
What you say makes sense and tahst why its silly to say that just because some say they don't value life that "Life " must not be valuable. If we don't value life we won't be here in the first place. Not valuing life would lead to all sorts of issues. Its just impossible to do and still live at the same time. Living doesnt just require surviving. It requires a certain type of life that as humans we must live by otherwise we don't live at all.
But it must because I value it. It's impossible to value things that are not intrinsically valuable. What other reason would I have to value it if its isn't valuable in itself?
No, no, no. I value it, therefore I ought to value it. Me valuing it is me recognizing that it has intrinsic value. Everyone knows that chocolate ice cream is intrinsically valuable. Every year there is about 6.4 billion pounds of ice cream produced amounting to $13.1 billion dollars of value to the US economy. And that's just the US! No way would humans do all of that for something that isn't valuable. There are laws against stealing chocolate ice cream because we recognize that something of intrinsic value was lost. There are laws about how it's produced. Those are objective. We don't write laws for subjective things. Chocolate ice cream is intrinsically valuable and everyone knows it, even if they disagree because of their subjective feelings.
All the points you've made is about humans valuing Ice cream. Nobody denies humans value Ice cream because we find it delicious, but to have intrinsic value, it's value has to go beyond humans valuing it. If humans did not exist, would ice cream have value? I know my dog likes ice cream also so she values it, but suppose no humans or mammals that considers ice cream delicious; existed? Would you still claim ice cream has value? If so, where does this value lie?
I think you've gotten it backwards. Intrinsically value means it has value regardless of if you (or anybody else) values it or not. You value chocolate because you find it delicious; if you or anybody else did not value chocolate, do you think it would have value? If so, where would it's value lie?
No; I don't think that is the point he made. He claims it has intrinsic value; the opposite of the claim I've made.
