THE RULE OF FAITH AND PRACTICE IS ALWAYS SCRIPTURE "ALONE" 2

[trophy33]

2 Timothy 3:16 [16], ALL SCRIPTURE IS GIVEN BY INSPIRATION OF GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

And you do not understand what this means?

Or why are you quoting this verse again and again?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Or why are you quoting this verse again and again?

Because your claiming all scriptures is not given by inspiration (God breathed) by God and not profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. That teaching does not stand the test of scripture therefore is not true.

 

[trophy33]

Because your claiming all scriptures is not given by inspiration (God breathed) by God and not profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. That teaching does not stand the test of scripture therefore is not true.

I never claimed that the Bible is purely a human work or that the Bible is not profitable. Try again.

You can start your discovery by thinking about what does Gen 2:7 mean and then you will understand why is Paul using the same figure of speech.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I never claimed that the Bible is purely a human work or that the Bible is not profitable. Try again.

Your post...

myst33 said: ↑ No. Bible was written by many authors, copied by many hands, copies retrieved by many archeologists, the Greek texts composed from manuscripts by many scholars and the composed Greek texts translated by many translators.

 

[trophy33]

Your post...

Welcome to the real world. In the real world, its not either-or, but frequently both.

Bible was written, composed, discovered, translated by many men, but God was working behind the process to achieve His goals.

You are obviously trying to delete the human element from the process and think that God dictated it word for word and copied it word for word and translated it Himself. Or that men are just robots or avatars He used.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Welcome to the real world. In the real world, its not either-or, but frequently both. Bible was written, composed, discovered, translated by many men, but God was working behind the process to achieve His goals. You are obviously trying to delete the human element from the process.

Not at all. Are you trying to delete the God element of the scriptures coming from God (God breathed) 2 Timothy 3:16?

 

[trophy33]

Not at all. Are you trying to delete the God element?

No, its both.

Paul was inspired, but still stayed to be Paul.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

No, its both.

So why pretend that the scriptures are not God's Word?

 

[trophy33]

So why pretend that the scriptures are not God's Word?

Again, because its ignoring the other part - men.

And its not pretending, its recognizing simple facts.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Again, because its ignoring the other part.

I already told you I was not ignoring the other part. God has always used men or women to tell others His Word. He has done so all through time has he not through the patriarchs, prophets and Apostles. Sorry I do not understand your argument. The scriptures are the only rule of faith because our faith comes directly from God's Word which is the spoken or recorded Word of God revealed in the scriptures given to us by the living Word of God *Romans 10:17; 2 Timothy 3:16; John 1:1-4; 14.

Take Care

 

[trophy33]

I already told you I was not ignoring the other part. God has always used men or women to tell others His Word. He has done so all through time has he not through the patriarchs, prophets and Apostles. Sorry I do not understand your argument. The scriptures are the only rule of faith because our faith comes directly from God's Word which is the spoken or recorded Word of God revealed in the scriptures given to us by the living Word of God *Romans 10:17; 2 Timothy 3:16; John 1:1-4; 14.

Take Care

You seem to be throwing in many religious terms without a proper context. Thats why so many people in so many threads of yours oppose you.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You seem to throw in many religious terms without a proper context.

Can you prove your claims here and show why you think the context changes the meaning of the scriptures that have been shared with you? If you cannot then should we just not simply believe what Gods' Word says instead of trying to argue that the scriptures are not the Words of God?

 

[trophy33]

Perhaps you can prove why you think the context changes the meaning of the scriptures that have been shared with you if you disagree with me. If you cannot then should we just not believe what Gods' Word says?

You are overusing the term "God's Word" so much that its not clear what you mean by that now - Jesus? Bible? KJV? God's prophetic message? Something else?

 

[rturner76]

There is a different spirit at work, influencing interpretation bias.

Will you say more about interpretation bias? What does it look like?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

You are overusing the term "God's Word" so much that its not clear what you mean by that now - Jesus? Bible? KJV? God's prophetic message? Something else?

Not really. I defined this term early on in the OP or on page one where I said already that Jesus is the living Word of God and before the written Word of God we had the "spoken" Word of God (John 1:1-4). Now we have the recorded written Words of God (2 Timothy 3:16) that we are to believe and live by (Matthew 4:4). All scripture is written for our admonition upon who the ends of the world have come (1 Corinthians 10:11). If we do not have Gods' Word there can be no faith because faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God *Romans 10:17. Without faith that comes by Gods' Word it is impossible to please God for he that comes to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him (Hebrews 11:6) because whatsoever is not of faith is sin *Romans 14:23. According to the scriptures if we do not believe Gods' Word we do not receive eternal life and the wrath of God abides on us (John 3:36). Therefore the scriptures are the only rule of faith because it is through the scriptures that we have faith.

Take Care.

 

[trophy33]

I said already that Jesus is the living Word of God and before the written Word of God we had the "spoken" Word of God (John 1:1-4). Now we have the recorded written Words of God ...

So, whenever you ask me a question about "the Word of God", nobody can guess what you mean.

Perhaps it will be useful if you will start using words like "Jesus", "Bible", and similar.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

So, whenever you ask me a question about "the Word of God", nobody can guess what you mean.

Not really. What is the context and discussion of the OP? If I am referring to anything else other than scripture in this OP, I will say so. If your not sure your always welcome to ask.

 

[trophy33]

Not really. What is the context and discussion of the OP?

I wonder if even you know.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

I wonder if you even know.

I know what I believe. Maybe that is a question you can ask yourself?

 

[trophy33]

I know what I believe. Maybe that is a question you can ask yourself?

Knowing your threads, the context is probably some precursor to keeping the Old Testament Sabbath or something like that?