Schools providing sexually explicit material to minors

[bekkilyn]

Some kids learn better than others. Most follow by example. Just like when their parents are certain ways, their kids usually do the same because the example shown by the parents is what they accept as normal. I've seen it while growing up, and I see it all the time now. Even within my own family, it's shown to be true. My brother followed the examples of my Mom while I took after my Dad. Same goes for what it shown as acceptable in schools. The kids are taught certain things are normal, and they generally accept it.

Saw a poll the last couple of days that claimed that 39% of 18-24 year old adults self-identified as LGBTQXYZ+. It's what's being perceived as normal when it's not even scientifically feasible.

 

[seeking.IAM]

Some kids learn better than others. Most follow by example...The kids are taught certain things are normal, and they generally accept it.

Yes, but our children are not blank slates to be written upon by every author that comes along. The best examples of what one wants to be like or doesn't want to be like are found, not in the school library, but within our own sphere of influence - our families and those closest to us. I submit that children with solid underpinnings and independent minds are capable of reading literature and discerning fact from fiction, and the desirable from the undesirable. It's not really necessary to have Big Brother telling us what we can and cannot read.

 

[Aldebaran]

When I was active duty stationed in the Philippines, my squadron had a big punch bowl full of condoms on a table by the door.

The message of that bowl was, "If you got 'em, use 'em." I can't see any way that distributing condoms doesn't sent the same message...that seventh graders ought to be engaging in sex...the school even says so.

But there is so much more happening in a person's psyche than a condom can cover.

Children in school from age 5-18 are there to learn. That's nowhere near the same as active duty military. If children are taught correctly by the time they turn 18, they would know to not need a condom from a punch bowl when they're out in public overseas.

 

[RDKirk]

Children in school from age 5-18 are there to learn. That's nowhere near the same as active duty military. If children are taught correctly by the time they turn 18, they would know to not need a condom from a punch bowl when they're out in public overseas.

You seem to have gotten what I was saying 180 degrees backward...probably because you're pre-set to always disagree with me.

 

[Aldebaran]

Video of a Virginia mom confronting her local school board over inappropriate contentographic materials has gone viral after she read aloud graphic texts and displayed the shocking images in question.

The clip shows mother-of-six Stacy Langton, whose two eldest kids attend Fairfax High School, first explaining during her speaking time at Wednesday night's Fairfax County Public Schools board meeting that after seeing stories about certain inappropriate contentographic books in other school districts around the country, she decided to check the titles at her own kids' school.

"Both of these books include pedophilia," Langton told the board. "Sex between men and boys … One book describes a fourth-grade boy performing oral sex on an adult male. The other book has detailed illustrations of a man having sex with a boy."

Langton went on to hold up the graphic illustrations for the school board members to see and began reading excerpts from the books. Then, school board members interrupted the mother, with one telling her, "There are children in the audience here."
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I am prevented from linking the article because it links to the photos.

They appear to show drawings of child inappropriate contentography by depicting acts of pedophilia.

One book even includes a “fourth-grade boy performing oral sex on an adult male,” Nomani reported.​

"There are children in the audience here."

And yet those school board members don't seem to care that there are even more children in the schools where the material is located.

 

[Aldebaran]

You seem to have gotten what I was saying 180 degrees backward...probably because you're pre-set to always disagree with me.

Ok. I was under the impression that you were saying that the military was providing condoms to keep their troops safe, and comparing that to school officials doing the same for kids in school.

 

[Paulos23]

Ought to be engaging in SAFE sex if they choose to engage in sex.

Most kids don't but don't you think that those who do should have access to condoms?

I mean anti-abortion activists should be LAUNCHING trebuchet sized bundles of condoms at high schools and universities.

I know some who are after they saw how abortions went down in Colorado after contraceptives were made available to teens 16 and older without parental consent.

But not all.

 

[bekkilyn]

Yes, but our children are not blank slates to be written upon by every author that comes along. The best examples of what one wants to be like or doesn't want to be like are found, not in the school library, but within our own sphere of influence - our families and those closest to us. I submit that children with solid underpinnings and independent minds are capable of reading literature and discerning fact from fiction, and the desirable from the undesirable. It's not really necessary to have Big Brother telling us what we can and cannot read.

Those kids are going to likely visit public libraries and bookstores and such outside of school, which would have plenty of adult books for them to read. For example, my school library did not have copies of Stephen King books, but I was able to go read Salem's Lot at age 12 by checking it out at my local public library. So while you are correct in what you are saying, schools not providing children with adult content literature in their libraries isn't really comparable to Big Brother.

 

[SilverBear]

The meaning of "comprehensive sex education" has changed dramatically over the very recent few years, as well as the availability of sexual stimulus outside the classroom.

and yet sex ed combined with available birth control works.

 

[Paulos23]

Providing condoms is basically teaching kids that it's acceptable to have sex as children.

If they are going to have sex anyway, and studies show about half are going to no matter what you tell them, might as well teach them how to be safe.

 

[RDKirk]

If they are going to have sex anyway, and studies show about half are going to no matter what you tell them, might as well teach them how to be safe.

More than half of them are going to drink alcohol, too.

 

[Aldebaran]

Yes, but our children are not blank slates to be written upon by every author that comes along. The best examples of what one wants to be like or doesn't want to be like are found, not in the school library, but within our own sphere of influence - our families and those closest to us. I submit that children with solid underpinnings and independent minds are capable of reading literature and discerning fact from fiction, and the desirable from the undesirable. It's not really necessary to have Big Brother telling us what we can and cannot read.

Very true. I just think that the public schools should be having standards that are a little tighter than what they have now. It's gotten quite liberal lately, and the behavior of kids has started reflecting what they've been taught. It explains so much of what is bringing society down.

 

[Paulos23]

More than half of them are going to drink alcohol, too.

Yup, and my school had a day on how to drink responsibly in the 8th grade as well as sex edu. Back in the early 80's.

Not saying it was perfect, but they were trying

 

[SilverBear]

Video of a Virginia mom confronting her local school board over inappropriate contentographic materials has gone viral after she read aloud graphic texts and displayed the shocking images in question.

The clip shows mother-of-six Stacy Langton, whose two eldest kids attend Fairfax High School, first explaining during her speaking time at Wednesday night's Fairfax County Public Schools board meeting that after seeing stories about certain inappropriate contentographic books in other school districts around the country, she decided to check the titles at her own kids' school.

"Both of these books include pedophilia," Langton told the board. "Sex between men and boys … One book describes a fourth-grade boy performing oral sex on an adult male. The other book has detailed illustrations of a man having sex with a boy."

Langton went on to hold up the graphic illustrations for the school board members to see and began reading excerpts from the books. Then, school board members interrupted the mother, with one telling her, "There are children in the audience here."
​

I am prevented from linking the article because it links to the photos.

They appear to show drawings of child inappropriate contentography by depicting acts of pedophilia.

One book even includes a “fourth-grade boy performing oral sex on an adult male,” Nomani reported.​

And as noted earlier the book she is holding is "Lawn Boy" by Jonathan Evison. Which is a very adult book. However the book available in the public school library was "Lawn Boy by Gary Paulson which is a book about a 12 year old boy who gets a gift of an old lawnmower and starts his own business mowing laws. THe books may have the same title but are very different works.

 

[Aldebaran]

Saw a poll the last couple of days that claimed that 39% of 18-24 year old adults self-identified as LGBTQXYZ+. It's what's being perceived as normal when it's not even scientifically feasible.

That's part of the confusion they end up having when they get taught that science is the answer to everything, and then get taught about 158 genders and so forth. It's a great way to mess up the minds of those who are trying to learn.

 

[Aldebaran]

If they are going to have sex anyway, and studies show about half are going to no matter what you tell them, might as well teach them how to be safe.

Good reason for driver's ed. instructors to teach people how to drive 120MPH safely in a 55MPH zone. "They're going to do it anyway!"

 

[bekkilyn]

That's part of the confusion they end up having when they get taught that science is the answer to everything, and then get taught about 158 genders and so forth. It's a great way to mess up the minds of those who are trying to learn.

Science == feeling, apparently.

 

[SilverBear]

During the 1970s in New Zealand, "The Little Red School Book" was distributed around schools. This book was basically a inappropriate contentographic sex guide for school children and contained descriptions of explicit sex acts.

Have you ever actually read this book?

 

[Paulos23]

Good reason for driver's ed. instructors to teach people how to drive 120MPH safely in a 55MPH zone. "They're going to do it anyway!"

I wouldn't mind if I have that training when I was a new driver. That doesn't mean I would do it, but it would have been helpful if young drivers knew how to judge the speed of a turn or the risk of a road better than they were teaching.

And that is the point. For the kids that are going to do it (because you know, hormones) it would turn out better for them if they knew how to use a condom and had access to one. Teens are not going to stop having sex because you tell them to. It is better to give them the tools to be safe than for them to find out the worst in the dark.

 

[Aldebaran]

I wouldn't mind if I have that training when I was a new driver. That doesn't mean I would do it, but it would have been helpful if young drivers knew how to judge the speed of a turn or the risk of a road better than they were teaching.

And that is the point. For the kids that are going to do it (because you know, hormones) it would turn out better for them if they knew how to use a condom and had access to one. Teens are not going to stop having sex because you tell them to. It is better to give them the tools to be safe than for them to find out the worst in the dark.

This is the reasoning that got us away from "Just say no to drugs", and more toward, "Here's a clean needle so you can do your Heroine 'safely'".