Blasphemous Thoughts -- do you ever feel like you choose to think them?

[Mari17]

very much so.........I feel strong depersonalization..........my passion and love for the thing of God seems to have vanished all together thus making me constantly sick! My mind is constantly thinking contrary to everything related to God,Jesus,and the Holy Spirit.........I can even feel the thoughts which makes it worse!

It sounds like these thoughts bother you a lot. Since they are disturbing and not thoughts you want, that's understandable. But what if you were to stop being afraid of the thoughts? Not that you want them, of course, but what if you stop acting afraid of them intruding into your life, and just live your life the way you feel you should no matter what thoughts are thrown at you?

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

It sounds like these thoughts bother you a lot. Since they are disturbing and not thoughts you want, that's understandable. But what if you were to stop being afraid of the thoughts? Not that you want them, of course, but what if you stop acting afraid of them intruding into your life, and just live your life the way you feel you should no matter what thoughts are thrown at you?

Honestly that's where I'm at at the moment I think our brains can get hooked on certain things and it seems to be all at once to think about and although when the thoughts come it feels like me thinking them deliberately out of a habit deep down I know they're just thoughts even when I have urges to speak them and sometimes do out of compulsion I know it's not my heart so lately I have just been living my life and doing what I do regardless of the thoughts one thing I have to do is try to get past the fear meaning when the thoughts come that I just keep doing what I do and and if they come 100 million times in 2 minutes then so be it let the worst come and just keep living life

 

[pasifika]

Hi,

I have struggled with blasphemous thoughts regarding the Holy Spirit, off and on for several years. It is particularly bad right now. I've begun medication and taken steps to just ignore the thoughts and have seen some success with that, but sometimes I fail. What bothers me the most now is that sometimes it feels like I "choose" to think a blasphemous thought, and it's really hard to discern whether it's OCD or me. When it happens I'm generally in the midst of an OCD storm of thoughts of increasing magnitude, and countering them in my heart or verbally, and for whatever reason I suddenly think "more fully" such a thought in a way that feels very intentional. Perhaps just to be rebellious, or think the opposite of what I'm trying to say, just because I'm not supposed to. Does anyone else experience this or have any insight as to what is going on and whether this specific aspect is a component of OCD?

Hello
I have experience that kind of thought about the Holy Spirit...
What i found is there is a war between our flesh ( sinful desires) and God (Spirit) and that what we experience...

Dwell more in His Word, ask for Wisdom, knowledge and revelation of Jesus Christ in order to change our thoughts by the renewal of our minds...

May His Grace and peace be with us all who experience this..

 

[Mari17]

Honestly that's where I'm at at the moment I think our brains can get hooked on certain things and it seems to be all at once to think about and although when the thoughts come it feels like me thinking them deliberately out of a habit deep down I know they're just thoughts even when I have urges to speak them and sometimes do out of compulsion I know it's not my heart so lately I have just been living my life and doing what I do regardless of the thoughts one thing I have to do is try to get past the fear meaning when the thoughts come that I just keep doing what I do and and if they come 100 million times in 2 minutes then so be it let the worst come and just keep living life

I love this! Good for you!!

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

I love this! Good for you!!

Honestly when I just let the thoughts come which seems deliberately and intentionally I feel like gum and trash but I don't know what else to do obviously the more you try to fight it or do compulsions it makes it worse so when the thoughts come of course the anxiety and crazy stuff I can wake up in the morning feeling refreshed and then it's like every morning after about 10-15 minutes the urge to think these thoughts is so strong it's like I can't stop myself it's aggravating but whatever I just let it come it makes me sick whatever I can't help it I just let them be there

 

[TBoss]

Honestly when I just let the thoughts come which seems deliberately and intentionally I feel like gum and trash but I don't know what else to do obviously the more you try to fight it or do compulsions it makes it worse so when the thoughts come of course the anxiety and crazy stuff I can wake up in the morning feeling refreshed and then it's like every morning after about 10-15 minutes the urge to think these thoughts is so strong it's like I can't stop myself it's aggravating but whatever I just let it come it makes me sick whatever I can't help it I just let them be there

I feel you brother Zachariah, for may years I struggled with blasphemous thoughts, doubts and unbelief, but It is possible to overcome it. God set me free, he can certainly do it for you.

It is vital to remember that these thoughts coming in are not your own, but from them demonic kingdom to drain and exhaust you so you will give up. RECOGNIZE THAT THE THOUGHT IS OF THE DEVIL then dismiss it, don't entertain it.

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

I feel you brother Zachariah, for may years I struggled with blasphemous thoughts, doubts and unbelief, but It is possible to overcome it. God set me free, he can certainly do it for you.

It is vital to remember that these thoughts coming in are not your own, but from them demonic kingdom to drain and exhaust you so you will give up. RECOGNIZE THAT THE THOUGHT IS OF THE DEVIL then dismiss it, don't entertain it.

Yes Amen brother it seems anytime I attempt to pray and read I'm hit with a spirit of insanity the most extreme exhausting panic and fear don't know if that's ever happened to you but I can go from feeling great and then trying to pray and all of a sudden everything begins to spin I lose track of time anxiety to the utmost so it's very difficult to try to even pray and or read

 

[TBoss]

Yes Amen brother it seems anytime I attempt to pray and read I'm hit with a spirit of insanity the most extreme exhausting panic and fear don't know if that's ever happened to you but I can go from feeling great and then trying to pray and all of a sudden everything begins to spin I lose track of time anxiety to the utmost so it's very difficult to try to even pray and or read

With me, everytime I drew nearer to God or got breakthrough getting closer to God, the irational blasphemous negative thoughts would intensify. Do u find that when u drift from God u have more peace in your mind and when u draw near to God, the thoughts intensifies?

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

With me, everytime I drew nearer to God or got breakthrough getting closer to God, the irational blasphemous negative thoughts would intensify. Do u find that when u drift from God u have more peace in your mind and when u draw near to God, the thoughts intensifies?

Well pretty much but they are again I have them 24/7 they have become a habit I don't know my life without them in fact the more I try to ignore them and pay them no mind and treat them as background noise the more I want to thank them but yes when I try to pray or read my intrusive thoughts / intrusive speech gets really bad and I have to stop. But then anytime I see a breakthrough it's as if some part of me wants to indulge and thinking that nonsense again it's a vicious cycle and most of my time I hear the ungodly mess and I'm able just to do my regular activities with a background noise constantly running

 

[TBoss]

I think medically you should always check it out of a professional to rule out any medical related issues, however if the issue is spiritual which it sounds like, I would say you need to find out the root of why you are getting these thoughts.

In my case the root of my issue was that my ancestors were involved in the occult and witchcraft which opened the door to demonic spirits to torment my mind. This is very dangerous and will cripple a person and their descendants, until the door is closed or curse broken. no matter how many times you rebuke the devil, it will not go away unless you deal with the root sin of repenting for either your sins or the sin committed by your ancestors.

We are generally led to believe that Christians cannot be oppressed by the demonic realm, but this is not true. They may not be able to possess us but they can make life hell for us if we have opened a door to them.

I would suggest first that you start digging if you haven't done so already to find out if any of your ancestors have ever been involved in the items below but not limited to. Ask the Holy Spirit to reveal any involvement in the occult by you or an ancestor

1. Witchcraft
2. Fortune Telling
3. Yoga
4. Free Masonary
5. Tarrot Card Readings
6. Spoken Curses
7. Horoscopes
8. Astral Projections
9. Astrology
10. Ouija Boards

In my case I was able to find a gifted seer/ prophetess to whom God revealed the actions of my ancestors without me telling her anything. The same was confirmed by 2 independent sources. Once I understood what the root of my issue was, I confessed to God that my ancestors have sinned greatly against Him by engaging in Witchcraft and sought forgiveness. Thereafter I commanded every devil to leave in Jesus name as we have authority in Christ. After I had done that, I had a supernatural peace in my mind and never experience that torment again. God delivered me. The peace in my mind went from a 10% to 90%. Something I struggled with for over 10 years was done away with through 30minutes of repenting and rebuking the devils.

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

I think medically you should always check it out of a professional to rule out any medical related issues, however if the issue is spiritual which it sounds like, I would say you need to find out the root of why you are getting these thoughts.

In my case the root of my issue was that my ancestors were involved in the occult and witchcraft which opened the door to demonic spirits to torment my mind. This is very dangerous and will cripple a person and their descendants, until the door is closed or curse broken. no matter how many times you rebuke the devil, it will not go away unless you deal with the root sin of repenting for either your sins or the sin committed by your ancestors.

We are generally led to believe that Christians cannot be oppressed by the demonic realm, but this is not true. They may not be able to possess us but they can make life hell for us if we have opened a door to them.

I would suggest first that you start digging if you haven't done so already to find out if any of your ancestors have ever been involved in the items below but not limited to. Ask the Holy Spirit to reveal any involvement in the occult by you or an ancestor

1. Witchcraft
2. Fortune Telling
3. Yoga
4. Free Masonary
5. Tarrot Card Readings
6. Spoken Curses
7. Horoscopes
8. Astral Projections
9. Astrology
10. Ouija Boards

In my case I was able to find a gifted seer/ prophetess to whom God revealed the actions of my ancestors without me telling her anything. The same was confirmed by 2 independent sources. Once I understood what the root of my issue was, I confessed to God that my ancestors have sinned greatly against Him by engaging in Witchcraft and sought forgiveness. Thereafter I commanded every devil to leave in Jesus name as we have authority in Christ. After I had done that, I had a supernatural peace in my mind and never experience that torment again. God delivered me. The peace in my mind went from a 10% to 90%. Something I struggled with for over 10 years was done away with through 30minutes of repenting and rebuking the devils.

Amen I agree I have most certainly done all that as far as I know none of my ancestors were involved in any of that I have repented numerous times to have what seemed like glorious breakthroughs but then it would come back with a vengeance I'm to the point now that I can't even think on the Holy Spirit or even utter the word holy spirit without my mind screaming vile curse words and sentences it is a constant thing why it feels like I almost want them and/or enjoy them when in reality I know I don't I believe demons can manipulate your feelings they can make you feel as if you mean the thought or you truly desire that I know deep down if Jesus was standing in front of me I most certainly wouldn't hit him and spit in his face and tell him to across I would bow down and worship him as king of kings and Lord of lords

 

[A_Thinker]

Blasphemous Thoughts -- do you ever feel like you choose to think them?

Hi,

I have struggled with blasphemous thoughts regarding the Holy Spirit, off and on for several years. It is particularly bad right now. I've begun medication and taken steps to just ignore the thoughts and have seen some success with that, but sometimes I fail. What bothers me the most now is that sometimes it feels like I "choose" to think a blasphemous thought, and it's really hard to discern whether it's OCD or me. When it happens I'm generally in the midst of an OCD storm of thoughts of increasing magnitude, and countering them in my heart or verbally, and for whatever reason I suddenly think "more fully" such a thought in a way that feels very intentional. Perhaps just to be rebellious, or think the opposite of what I'm trying to say, just because I'm not supposed to. Does anyone else experience this or have any insight as to what is going on and whether this specific aspect is a component of OCD?

Why would you ?

If thoughts occur that you're not in agreement with, ... they're not really yours. They are ... intrusions into your psyche ...

 

[TBoss]

Eish that is hectic, I'm real sorry to hear. There definitely must be some legal right that has not been broken yet. You need to find out what it is. You can inbox me directly if you want to share any specific experience or have a question. I know what it is to go through these things, and don't wish it on my worst enemy. I would like you to be free from this wickedness.

 

[Mari17]

Amen I agree I have most certainly done all that as far as I know none of my ancestors were involved in any of that I have repented numerous times to have what seemed like glorious breakthroughs but then it would come back with a vengeance I'm to the point now that I can't even think on the Holy Spirit or even utter the word holy spirit without my mind screaming vile curse words and sentences it is a constant thing why it feels like I almost want them and/or enjoy them when in reality I know I don't I believe demons can manipulate your feelings they can make you feel as if you mean the thought or you truly desire that I know deep down if Jesus was standing in front of me I most certainly wouldn't hit him and spit in his face and tell him to across I would bow down and worship him as king of kings and Lord of lords

Obsessions like this can be triggered by doing spiritual activities, because your creative mind knows those are activities that might bother you, and sends more thoughts to try to freak you out. I'm not saying this kind of thing CAN'T be demonic, but I'd be very hesitant to attribute a mental disorder to a spiritual problem. OCD is most effectively dealt with by ignoring the thoughts; continuing to search for some hidden meaning behind the thoughts keeps the focus on them, and thus tends to keep them coming...

 

[TBoss]

Im not saying that OCD is demonic in all instances but when 90% of negative thoughts are offensive anf blasphemous to God and preventing us from growing and being free in Christ, we shouldnt overlook the demonic realm as a potential source of the problem. God gave us a spirit of power and a sound mind. When i was diagnosed with tourette syndrom in my teens, i asked myself why i only had throughts directed against God when in persued God, when I withdrew from God, the mental torment would stop. Since the goal of the devil is to keep us from getting closer to God, id say that was an effective strategy.

 

[Mari17]

Thank you for your reply! In my personal experience, I've found that no matter my obsession, I'm triggered when I am doing something related to my obsessive topic. So if I'm struggling with a germ obsession, being around something dirty triggers me. Likewise, if I'm struggling with a religious obsession, doing spiritual things triggers me. So I guess I see it as more of a medical/biological problem, in most instances - although I do agree that we are holistic and that many factors, including our spiritual health, affect our mental well-being. I really like the way Dr. Ian Osborn conceptualizes OCD from a Christian point of view at his site ocdandchristianity.com. His writing has helped me understand how the spiritual and the physical both play into OCD, and how working on our OCD can actually help us grow our trust in God. It's so wonderful to learn how to focus on ourselves less and learn to rest in God more. He's so good, amazing, and trustworthy!

 

[zachariahjosephturner]

The first thing when I wake up at the morning my mind is clear but it's almost as if out of habit I sence these Blasphemous thoughts starting to come particularly a inappropriate contentographic one involving the you know who....... I can't stop thinking it........ I can't stop myself from thinking it!!!!! is driving me crazy I've been through this for seven years now! The hard part is it feels like it's coming from my heart now after 7 years. Of course I understand the whole try not to think of the black elephant and it's all you can think about that that's what it is with me I've had the same thought every morning over and over for a while and no matter what I do ignoring it choosing to not acknowledge it it's still there and it's loud!

 

[DaveM]

if your not willingly to won the thoughts with Words from your mouth, I dont see how they can be your own.

If you refuse to Say what you think, they are not your thoughts. IMO

 

[TBoss]

The first thing when I wake up at the morning my mind is clear but it's almost as if out of habit I sence these Blasphemous thoughts starting to come particularly a inappropriate contentographic one involving the you know who....... I can't stop thinking it........ I can't stop myself from thinking it!!!!! is driving me crazy I've been through this for seven years now! The hard part is it feels like it's coming from my heart now after 7 years. Of course I understand the whole try not to think of the black elephant and it's all you can think about that that's what it is with me I've had the same thought every morning over and over for a while and no matter what I do ignoring it choosing to not acknowledge it it's still there and it's loud!

Hi Zach,

You dont want to have these thoughts correct? God doesnt want you to have these thoughts correct? This means that the thoughts are not coming from God and not coming from you. These thoughts are being injected by the demonic kingdom to drain you mentally so you will give up serving God, that is their goal.

I still get intrusive thoughts, not as bad as before but stil get. When i do get it, I realize immediately that its not coming from me because I have no desire to curse God or to think inappropriate thoughts, its not coming from God, then it must be coming from these demonic spirits that roam the earth.

If that is the case i dont even entertain the thought, I dont repent of it, nor ask for God forgiveness for it because its not me. I dont waste my time pondering on what the devils inject into my mind. I ignore and drop the thought and move on.

You must get to a point where you recognize and believe that the thoughts are not coming from you but from the enemy.

 

[TBoss]

I would encourage you again to go before the Lord and to ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to you why you are getting these blasphemous thoughts to this extent, maybe do a fast and wait for the Lord to bring revelation. He might speak to you in through your dreams, books, videos or any method he prefers to bring you knowledge.

God desires for you to have peace in your mind, He sees your suffering and wants you to be free! He is faithful and will come through for you. I will keep u in my prayers brother!