Walmart To Employees, "White is not Right"

[Bradskii]

If you follow the links from the NY Post, you're taken to a website that has the leaked document. It appears to be a complete package from "Racial Equality Institute LLC".

I don't see Wal-Mart anywhere in the document, but then again, it wouldn't be, if the company is distributing the packet to their employees as training from a third-party company that produces such training materials.

Having worked at a large corporation, these types of training packets go in one ear and out the other anyway.

Employers aren't allowed to discriminate by race. A training packet isn't discrimination, but enforcement is.

From a Christian perspective:

We are to love one another selflessly. We are all God's creation. It's difficult, while living in a sinful world full of selfishness, to imagine a world where selfless love keeps us in harmony—but isn't that the standard of heaven that will be restored some day? Something to think about.

Oh no... Fifty odd pages to dissect and dismantle? There'll be an argument every line and scores on every topic. It'll be the same posters putting forward the same arguments that every crt thread has had. Life is really too short to rehash this subject ad nauseum.

Unsubscribing for the sake of my sanity.

 

[Ana the Ist]

The NY Post? You didn't just lower the bar. You dug a little trench and buried it.

Weee....

I understand that you're joking and I enjoy a good laugh as much as the next guy....

I don't think other posters are joking. What do you think the problem is? They don't think before they hit reply? Like some sort of defensive reflex except it's the frontal lobe shutting down to protect a workdview?

 

[Ana the Ist]

Stuff like this doesn't surprise me anymore.

This story is from last month.

https://nypost.com/2021/09/09/google-pushing-critical-race-theory-in-staff-training-report

These three graphics intrigue me the most.

Covert white supremacy includes: Denial of racism(kafkatrap), not believing experiences of BIPOC (apparently it's okay to not believe experiences of white people), tone policing(how is this even white supremacist?), saying "But what about me?" and assuming good intentions are good enough.
It seems the definition of the phrase white supremacy, just like the word racist, has been stretched to mean "Anything I don't like."

The fact that they put Ben Shapiro on the list, who is Jewish and a target of actual white supremacists shows that they are using this phrase as a smear for anyone or anything they don't like.

This graphic made me think this was all fake, that is why I decided not post it on this forum even though I wanted to. This phrase was used to mock these type of people, now it seems they're wearing as a badge of honor.

Lol I like how it starts at "indifference" and ends at mass murder. If the History Channel has taught me anything....it's that Hitler, Mussolini Stalin, and Pol Pot all rose to power under the crushing weight of their "indifference".

I'd say that is the most blatant attempt to politically indoctrinate employees...but who knows what is going on in small businesses if that is happening in Google. I never thought I'd look back fondly on the racial controversia under Trump when CNN and HuffPo and NYT would spend days analyzing whether or not a non-racial word could magically be a secret dog whistle...

The racists on the left under Biden pretend to be legitimate businesses and education consultants. They're so openly racist they make the racists on the right under Trump look like Shakespeare with their degree of subtlety.

On the upside, we don't have to worry about mass murder coming from these liberal sources... they don't show any signs of indifference.

 

[Astrid]

But it's not based on class lol....it's based on race and culture.




It's not a conspiracy theory, I've read Marx. He's below average when it comes to economics....but he's well above average at creating revolutions. He saw class as the issue he could use to push discontent in the average person. He lived in a time and place where there was too much racial homogeneity to push a racial Marxism and culture had not been stripped from the common man....so that wouldn't work either.

There was, however, a growing gap between the wealthy and the poor....as was the case in many of the nations that adopted Marxism. As a model for revolution, it doesn't work so well in the US. The average man stands to lose too much from revolution. Our poor are richer than the poor in most of the world.

If you want to apply Marxist tactics to sow discontent in the US, you need to choose something people already have grievances over.



Of course it's been tried. It's been tried multiple times....it just happens to run into the same problems.

Communism is a picture of an end goal. It doesn't have a realistic plan for achieving that end goal....but communists know what society should look like if they are successful. Every attempt at communism is a "try" regardless of the fact it never succeeds.



It certainly has its flaws.



I'd be less inclined to do so if the idea in question hadn't resulted in some of history's greatest atrocities.

Capitalism for all it's flaws is based on a simple but ugly truth....economic equality cannot be achieved.

Communism is based on a beautiful lie....not only can economic equality be achieved, but we can achieve it now.

It's not that I like ugly truths....but I'm an atheist, I've learned to accept them.

Cultural Marxism is not a conspiracy theory,
and you know coz you read Marx?
Droll.
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2003/cultural-marxism-catching

 

[Astrid]

Ahhhh...ok, my mistake. I read it wrong.

Rats. Keep this up and, how can we argue?

 

[Astrid]

That doesn't change what I said.

True, only you can change what you said.
I was just pointing out how incomplete,
facile the statement is.

 

[Astrid]

I do.

[QUOTE
I do think there is a systemic disadvantage for some minority groups.

Like?



Then you should oppose CRT.



CRT doesn't actually do any analysis.


No....it assumed those things before Walmart started pushing it on employees.[/QUOTE]

I'm also wanting to hear about some of these systemic disadvantages.

And ftm, what is meant by a system.

The culture of the Indian reservation or the black ghetto
certainly operates to the disadvantage of the inhabitants,
but I don't think that's what is meant.

 

[Valletta]

I would also. Somehow, I doubt that the article fairly represents Walmart's actions ...

Walmart has not yet replied to me.

 

[RDKirk]

True, only you can change what you said.
I was just pointing out how incomplete,
facile the statement is.

You made the statement that your culture gave you advantages. What makes it "incomplete, facile" to state that another culture can create disadvantages?

And then you yourself said:

The culture of the Indian reservation or the black ghetto
certainly operates to the disadvantage of the inhabitants,
but I don't think that's what is meant.

Which is what I had said.

 

[Astrid]

You made the statement that your culture gave you advantages. What makes it "incomplete, facile" to state that another culture can create disadvantages?

And then you yourself said:



Which is what I had said.

The context is whether these things are "systemic "
and as such the fault of the oppressors.

I still have not heard of a systemic disadvantage for anyone in the USA.

In Hk there is a systemic disadvantage for anyone
not a citizen here, in a legal dispute with a citizen.

In the USA the only systemic / racial matters I
am aware of operate to the advantage of minorities.

 

[DaisyDay]

Welcome to Walmart, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Walmart CRT Training Encourages Employees To Accept "White Isn't Fair"

Walmart has given more than 1,000 employees critical training on race theory which teaches that the United States is a “white supremacist system” and that white interns are guilty of “white supremacist thinking” and “Internalized racial superiority,” according to a new report.

Classy. I remember thinking something was missing last time I was in Walmart. Turns out it was racial bigotry.

The program suggests that whites are guilty of “white privilege” and “internalized racial superiority”, the belief that “his comforts, wealth, privileges and success have been won by merit and hard work” rather than by the benefits of systemic racism. The formation claims that the The “culture of white supremacy” is defined by several qualities, including “individualism”, “objectivity”, “paternalism”, “defense”, “hoarding of power”, the “right to comfort” and the “cult of writing”.

Cult of writing? That's a new one.

The program suggests that the solution is for whites to work on “white anti-racist development” and accept their “guilt and shame” and that “whites are not right.” Ultimately, they should be working towards “collective action” where “white people can do good”.

Training people to accept guilt because of their skin color. I don't see how this can possibly go wrong.

Personally, I think delusional extremists who believe in vast power hoarding conspiracies belong in the shady corners of the internet where their nonsense is limited by voluntary participation.

On the upside, this seems like the sort of thing that qualifies as racial discrimination and Walmart has deep pockets.

Thoughts?

Is this article originally from the National Review? I ask because there is no by-line and, towards the bottom, it says, "More National Review".

Disclosure documents obtained by Town newspaper ‘s Christopher Rufo reveals that Walmart first launched the program, based on the fundamentals of Critical Race Theory, in 2018 in partnership with the Racial Equity Institute.

I don't know what "Town newspaper " is but Rufo is an interesting guy: How a Conservative Activist Invented the Conflict Over Critical Race Theory

 

[ArmenianJohn]

If you follow the links from the NY Post, you're taken to a website that has the leaked document. It appears to be a complete package from "Racial Equality Institute LLC".

I don't see Wal-Mart anywhere in the document, but then again, it wouldn't be, if the company is distributing the packet to their employees as training from a third-party company that produces such training materials.

Having worked at a large corporation, these types of training packets go in one ear and out the other anyway.

Employers aren't allowed to discriminate by race. A training packet isn't discrimination, but enforcement is.

From a Christian perspective:

We are to love one another selflessly. We are all God's creation. It's difficult, while living in a sinful world full of selfishness, to imagine a world where selfless love keeps us in harmony—but isn't that the standard of heaven that will be restored some day? Something to think about.

Your link is insecure and can't be followed; I expect nothing less from the right wing though.

We still have no document at all, just some biased viewpoint relaying bits of it out of context (and I think the document doesn't even exist, sounds like another tall tale like all the claims of election fraud).

From a Christian perspective:
I wouldn't lead you or any other person to follow dangerous links, even though I don't agree politically with you I still wouldn't lead you to dangerous links on the internet.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

I had no idea it was a conspiracy theory website.

Here's the same article in a non-conspiracy theory website. Enjoy.
https://nypost.com/2021/10/15/walmart-trains-staff-in-critical-race-theory/

Same article re-pasted in a right-wing rag that is known for re-pasting conspiracy theories. No difference.

And regardless of the source, the articles you provide don't provide full quotes or the full document, they only provide the article writer's opinion of quotes taken out of context (well, we assume they are valid quotes because we have no way of knowing if such a document even exists to begin with).

Sounds like yet another right-wing lie. Yawn.

 

[Freth]

Your link is insecure and can't be followed; I expect nothing less from the right wing though.

We still have no document at all, just some biased viewpoint relaying bits of it out of context (and I think the document doesn't even exist, sounds like another tall tale like all the claims of election fraud).

From a Christian perspective:
I wouldn't lead you or any other person to follow dangerous links, even though I don't agree politically with you I still wouldn't lead you to dangerous links on the internet.

Here's the PDF document on Google Drive.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19KFV4HJAP-2x-PpTa_wYDjDh4pCx0mtX/view?usp=sharing

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Here's the PDF document on Google Drive.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19KFV4HJAP-2x-PpTa_wYDjDh4pCx0mtX/view?usp=sharing

This is unsafe also, requires me to ask for access from my own Google account.

 

[RDKirk]

The context is whether these things are "systemic "
and as such the fault of the oppressors.

I still have not heard of a systemic disadvantage for anyone in the USA.

In Hk there is a systemic disadvantage for anyone
not a citizen here, in a legal dispute with a citizen.

In the USA the only systemic / racial matters I
am aware of operate to the advantage of minorities.

I haven't mentioned in any way anything being "systemic."

Immigrants to the US bring with them the very real advantage of their own native cultures. These cultures are almost always socially practical, functional cultures that have carried their ancestors for hundreds of years. Simply put, immigrants come to the US with a way of life that has been proven to work to their advantage.

They may adapt their cultures to fit better into America's dominant Anglo culture, they may adopt elements of America's dominant Anglo culture, they may in time completely move to America's dominant Anglo culture. But from the very start, they have their own functional cultures to rely upon.

And it should be clear that America's Anglo culture is also functional and very successful, so these immigrants are merely blending one successful, functional culture into another successful, functional culture.

The difference with the Africans who were brought to the US as slaves is that their native tribal cultures--which had been functional in their own rights--were stripped from the slaves. The slaves were inculcated with intention into a slave culture that was deliberately dysfunctional. The descendants of those slaves still labor under significant elements of that slave culture (which was perpetuated by Jim Crow in certain relevant ways), and just like obese people continue in the practices that made them obese, many black people continue in the slave culture ways that keep them in a slave culture.

There have been efforts to raise black people out of the slave culture. One method has been to attempt better assimilation into the larger (and functional) Anglo culture. The other has been to radically revamp the slave culture into a functional culture largely (but not wholly) separate from Anglo culture.

Although the former is more practical and more practicable, the point is to recognize that the slave culture is dysfunctional and to cast it aside.

 

[Freth]

This is unsafe also, requires me to ask for access from my own Google account.

Then

This is unsafe also, requires me to ask for access from my own Google account.

The docs.google.com website should be trustworthy. I would upload it to a cloud service, but I think I'll just leave it at that.

God bless!

 

[Astrid]

I haven't mentioned in any way anything being "systemic."

Immigrants to the US bring with them the very real advantage of their own native cultures. These cultures are almost always socially practical, functional cultures that have carried their ancestors for hundreds of years. Simply put, immigrants come to the US with a way of life that has been proven to work to their advantage.

They may adapt their cultures to fit better into America's dominant Anglo culture, they may adopt elements of America's dominant Anglo culture, they may in time completely move to America's dominant Anglo culture. But from the very start, they have their own functional cultures to rely upon.

And it should be clear that America's Anglo culture is also functional and very successful, so these immigrants are merely blending one successful, functional culture into another successful, functional culture.

The difference with the Africans who were brought to the US as slaves is that their native tribal cultures--which had been functional in their own rights--were stripped from the slaves. The slaves were inculcated with intention into a slave culture that was deliberately dysfunctional. The descendants of those slaves still labor under significant elements of that slave culture (which was perpetuated by Jim Crow in certain relevant ways), and just like obese people continue in the practices that made them obese, many black people continue in the slave culture ways that keep them in a slave culture.

There have been efforts to raise black people out of the slave culture. One method has been to attempt better assimilation into the larger (and functional) Anglo culture. The other has been to radically revamp the slave culture into a functional culture largely (but not wholly) separate from Anglo culture.

Although the former is more practical and more practicable, the point is to recognize that the slave culture is dysfunctional and to cast it aside.

You are no fun. I could have written that myself.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Then


The docs.google.com website should be trustworthy. I would upload it to a cloud service, but I think I'll just leave it at that.

God bless!

The document is not real, it wouldn't be this occluded if it were real. This is typical of the right wing, to make claims of documents that serve as "evidence" only to fail to produce them.

 

[MehGuy]

The program suggests that whites are guilty of “white privilege” and “internalized racial superiority”, the belief that “his comforts, wealth, privileges and success have been won by merit and hard work” rather than by the benefits of systemic racism. Thoughts?

Wondering how far back this goes.. I mean really.. white men largely created the modern world.. with all the comfort, wealth and success it provides.

How relevant is the existence of minorities regarding this?