Freedom or Socialism?

[MorkandMindy]

What I don't understand is how there can be any meaningful discussion of minimum wage when medical costs are unknown.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Primary care in England is simple, the doctor is paid 80,000 dollars per year, has usually between 2,000 and 2,200 patients, so that comes out 40 dollars per patient per year.

For my yearly check, ECG, and most blood tests are taken at the primary care office and many measured there too. These are entered into the computer and are there in front of the doctor half an hour later for review at a quick meeting with the doctor.

I was out of the building with medications reviewed and re-prescribed within the hour, and yes, the ECG was acceptable.

Here in the US I had a long and pointless meeting ticking boxes mainly, then an appointment somewhere else to get blood drawn, no ECG not sure why, and then no subsequent meeting. The cost was huge.

You get a yearly check? I've never had a check before.

 

[visionary]

There was a chemistry professor in a large college that had some exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the lab, the professor noticed one young man, an exchange student, who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt. The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting
communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a new communist regime.
In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked: Do you know how to catch wild pigs?
The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line.
The young man said that it was no joke. You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs
find it and begin to come every day to eat the free corn.
When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming.
When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence.
They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side.
The pigs, which are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat that free corn again.
You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom.
They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.
The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening in America.
The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/Socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc. while we continually lose our freedoms, just a little at a time.
One should always remember two truths: There is no such thing as a free lunch, and you can never hire someone to provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.
If you see that all of this wonderful government "help" is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America, you might want to send this on to your friends. If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life, then you will probably delete this email. But, God help us all when the gate slams shut!
Quote for today:
"The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living."

 

[Desk trauma]

/r/forwardsfromgrandma

 

[Ana the Ist]

I'm pretty sure that's not how you catch wild pigs.

 

[Clare73]

I'm pretty sure that's not how you catch wild pigs.

I know you're wrong.

 

[Ana the Ist]

I know you're wgrong.

Really? Cuz you can just Google methods for catching feral pigs these days. I don't see anyone actually building pig traps one fence at a time.

 

[Clare73]

Really? Cuz you can just Google methods for catching feral pigs these days. I don't see anyone actually building pig traps one fence at a time.

You don't know any poor people.

Doesn't mean it doesn't work.

 

[Ana the Ist]

You don't know any poor people.

What?

Doesn't mean it doesn't work.

Doesn't mean it does.

 

[Trogdor the Burninator]

I'm pretty sure that's not how you catch wild pigs.

sometimes the wild pigs catch you...

 

[Nithavela]

What?

Poor people can only afford one fence at a time. Duh.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

There was a chemistry professor in a large college that had some exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the lab, the professor noticed one young man, an exchange student, who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt. The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting
communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a new communist regime.
In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked: Do you know how to catch wild pigs?
The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line.
The young man said that it was no joke. You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs
find it and begin to come every day to eat the free corn.
When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming.
When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence.
They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side.
The pigs, which are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat that free corn again.
You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom.
They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.
The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening in America.
The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/Socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc. while we continually lose our freedoms, just a little at a time.
One should always remember two truths: There is no such thing as a free lunch, and you can never hire someone to provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.
If you see that all of this wonderful government "help" is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America, you might want to send this on to your friends. If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life, then you will probably delete this email. But, God help us all when the gate slams shut!
Quote for today:
"The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living."
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There is huge spiritual warfare these days by anti-Christian forces against Christian values and core beliefs. One of the main ways they attack Christian values is to de-humanize human beings and the main way is by comparing them to wild animals. The story you provided is a fable that is used for that purpose. The Word of God says man is made in God's image. Humans are not wild pigs. The Word of God makes this very clear. The Word of God tells us about Jesus' life and His Ministry to all mankind, including many of those people that earthly society looks down on and treats as animals. Your story is just furthering these anti-Christian belief sets. I wholly reject your story based on my Christian values.

 

[Clare73]

What?
Doesn't mean it does.

Previously addressed.

 

[Clare73]

Poor people can only afford one fence at a time. Duh.

If they are in farming, they have stuff they make fences out of, and they're not making 40 ft by 40 ft pens, 8 ft by 8 ft is big enough to catch what you're after.

 

[Ana the Ist]

If they are in farming, they have stuff they make fences out of, and they're not making 40 ft by 40 ft pens, 8 ft by 8ft is big enough to catch what you're after.

Thanks for confirming nobody fences in pigs one side at a time .

 

[Clare73]

Thanks for confirming nobody fences in pigs one side at a time .

If you want to corner wild hogs (boars) without a fight, it's not a bad idea.

 

[Ana the Ist]

If you want to corner wild hogs (boars) without a fight, it's not a bad idea.

Or if you're too poor to afford more than one fence at a time.

 

[Nithavela]

As fascinating as this is, I don't think a threat about hog catching belongs in a politics forum. Maybe here:

Outdoor Activities & Nature

 

[rambot]

You get a yearly check? I've never had a check before.

It's recommended after a certain age.
But before that a check up every few years is not unheard of.

 

[rambot]

There was a chemistry professor in a large college that had some exchange students in the class. One day while the class was in the lab, the professor noticed one young man, an exchange student, who kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt. The professor asked the young man what was the matter. The student told him he had a bullet lodged in his back. He had been shot while fighting
communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country's government and install a new communist regime.
In the midst of his story, he looked at the professor and asked a strange question. He asked: Do you know how to catch wild pigs?
The professor thought it was a joke and asked for the punch line.
The young man said that it was no joke. You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs
find it and begin to come every day to eat the free corn.
When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming.
When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence.
They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side.
The pigs, which are used to the free corn, start to come through the gate to eat that free corn again.
You then slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom.
They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themselves, so they accept their captivity.
The young man then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening in America.
The government keeps pushing us toward Communism/Socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tax exemptions, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant crops (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc. while we continually lose our freedoms, just a little at a time.
One should always remember two truths: There is no such thing as a free lunch, and you can never hire someone to provide a service for you cheaper than you can do it yourself.
If you see that all of this wonderful government "help" is a problem confronting the future of democracy in America, you might want to send this on to your friends. If you think the free ride is essential to your way of life, then you will probably delete this email. But, God help us all when the gate slams shut!
Quote for today:
"The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are now outnumbered by those who vote for a living."
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The problem with fable allegories is "the ol switcheroo".

Switch "government socialism" and "social programs" with "corporate health insurers" and "massive profits for themselves and shareholders" and the point is just as strong.