Are non-Jewish Christians commanded to keep the 7th Day Sabbath

[LoveGodsWord]

The isolated verses you quote are the Pharisees accusing Jesus of breaking the Sabbath. Jesus said He did not sin John 15:10 and doing so we would all be lost. If Jesus was not breaking the Sabbath like He told us that means He was keeping the Sabbath law. I am not sure what you’re trying to prove, but trying to prove Jesus was a sinner and taught that we should be sinners is not a teaching from the Holy Spirit, Jesus or God.

I will pray for you.

God bless

What amazes me is that those who believe in and teach the false doctrine of lawlessness (without law), seek to make Jesus a sinner by breaking His own commandments. That said we know that the scriptures teach that Jesus came to teach us what is truly lawful and what is not according to the scripture and the law. Of course who would know better then Jesus who is the creator of all. I am quite lost for words to see how people twist scripture and make claims to scripture not supported in scripture which is quite sad in my view.

God bless

 

[Saint Steven]

I am not sure what you’re trying to prove, but trying to prove Jesus was a sinner and taught that we should be sinners is not a teaching from the Holy Spirit, Jesus or God.

Seriously?
I thought this issue was settled in Acts chapter fifteen.
(the Jerusalem Council) Where Peter said...

Acts 16:10 NIV
Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

 

[Saint Steven]

You missed the beginning, the Sabbath was made for man and man was made on the six day. The next day was God’s Sabbath day that was made for man.

What day was it for humankind? Were they commanded to rest the day after they were created?

There is no evidence of humans observing the Sabbath until it was introduced in Exodus chapter sixteen. If so, show us. Thanks.

 

[The Liturgist]

Every time I read that quote I feel a sense of longing. It sounds so peaceful. I wish the services in my church had less praise band music and more scripture reading.

You should consider changing churches. I suggest an Anglican church that offers Morning Prayer and/or Evensong in addition to the Eucharist; if you can find one where Morning Prayer precedes the Eucharist, you’ll get a massive dose of scripture, or alternately, if you can’t find an Anglican church with that worship pattern, which is unfortunately less common than it used to be, I would suggest a Coptic Orthodox Church. Coptic churches have the most scripture lessons on a typical Sunday of any church, especially if they have Psalmody the night before and you attend, in that you get three Gospel lessons in Morning Prayer before the Holy Communion Service, plus, morning prayer is divided into three sections, and a deacon will come through and assign every member of the congregation two or three Psalms for each section to read softly, then, during the Holy Communion Service, there is a lesson from one of the Epistles of St. Paul, a lesson from one of the Epistles of another Apostle (those of John, James, Peter and Jude), a lesson from the Book of Acts, and finally, a Gospel lesson.

At Psalmody on Saturday night, the Old Testament is read, and also certain Psalms and scriptural canticles. There are now several Coptic churches that do everything in English, while all of them in the US do at least a great deal of the service in English, and for the parts which aren’t in English, there are screens and there is also an iPad app where you can folloe along (likewise, the Anglican church has the Book of Common Prayer, which helps with following along).

The Egyptian Christians you will meet in the Coptic churches are extremely friendly and welcoming, and the experience of communion at those churches is very intimate. Anglican churches are more formal, yet still very warm, and will also tend to have Western hymns you are likely to be familiar with, accompanied by an organ in any parish with good music, whereas the Coptic churches use Coptic Chant, accompanied by traditional percussion except during Lent.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

No, I am saying he was deconstructing the law as he went.
All the books of the Prophets and the books of the Law prophesied until John.
Until John? Then what? (Galatians 3:23-25)

John 1:17 NIV
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

Matthew 11:13 NIV
For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.

Jesus did not tell us He would lessen God’s commandments, He told us He would magnify God’s laws. Magnify means to make greater not smaller. Isaiah 42:21 and Jesus clearly tells us he did not come to destroy God’s laws and gives us examples how He made the laws greater by teaching us the root of sinning starts in our hearts Matthew 5:17-30 which is what the New Covenant is about, changing the heart. God’s laws written in our hearts and minds. Jer 31:33

 

[Saint Steven]

Jesus was telling the story of David going to the Temple eating shewbread on the Sabbath when He was really hungry. Jesus is not saying it was unlawful to do so...

No, that's exactly what he said.

Matthew 12:4 NIV
He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests.

 

[The Liturgist]

As I understand it, the Christian church, which began mostly as converted Jews, moved away from synagogue worship on the Sabbath pretty quickly. See the quote from the Didache at the bottom of this post. (the Lord's Day = Sunday)

There is a misperception by some today that Christian worship was allowed in the synagogues. This is not so. Early converts to Christianity had to keep their faith hidden from the Jewish religious leaders. (John 12:42)

Chapter 14. Christian Assembly on the Lord's Day. But every Lord's day gather yourselves together, and break bread, and give thanksgiving after having confessed your transgressions, that your sacrifice may be pure. But let no one who is at odds with his fellow come together with you, until they be reconciled, that your sacrifice may not be profaned. For this is that which was spoken by the Lord: "In every place and time offer to me a pure sacrifice; for I am a great King, says the Lord, and my name is wonderful among the nations."

Indeed, in the mid first century, the Jews added a 19th prayer to the litany of 18 benedictions that is the Shemoneh ‘Esreh (eighteen prayers), but this 19th prayer was not a benediction, but rather a malediction, cursing all heretics, by which of course they meant Christians (and presumably followers of St. John the Baptist who had not upgraded, such as the Hemerobaptists, who the Mandaean Gnostics were probably influenced by).

 

[The Liturgist]

No, that's exactly what he said.

Matthew 12:4 NIV
He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests.

Indeed, and the Shewbread was a typological prophecy of the Eucharist, which is also a per se violation of the Old Law (which prohibits eating people, or consuming blood from anything). This is why our Lord lost most of his supposed followers in John 6.

 

[The Liturgist]

I say if a few Christians want to adhere to OT sabbath and dietary laws, let them.

Oh sure, I am fine with that. What upsets me is that we who do not do that are subject to endless criticism. I have in this thread been told I am arguing against God, which really offends me, when in fact I am arguing against EGW’s particular Sabbatarian interpretation, and also accused without justification of “labelling” people. And it has been alleged falsely that I have not provided scripture to back up my views, when I have, in this thread and in the countless threads that preceded it.

And I do have concerns about the impact of some doctrines of EGW aside from Adventism. She believed our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ was St. Michael the Archangel, and she made a litany of horrible accusations against the Roman Catholic Church, which constantly get repeated, and while she was nominally Trinitarian, as I have continued to research her doctrine of the Trinity, I am becoming increasingly dubious that her views were consistently Nicene.

But I have repeatedly expressed a desire for debates on this issue to end. This thread by the way is only the latest in a series of related threads. My desire is for tolerance between Adventist and non-Adventist members, since we can’t agree on these issues, I desire that we, all of us in this thread, agree to disagree, so we can focus on issues of mutual concern, like stopping abortion, the preservation of traditional marriage, and doctor-assisted homicide (euphemistically called euthanasia).

 

[LoveGodsWord]

No, I am saying he was deconstructing the law as he went.
All the books of the Prophets and the books of the Law prophesied until John.
Until John? Then what? (Galatians 3:23-25)

John 1:17 NIV
For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.

Matthew 11:13 NIV
For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.

Deconstructing the law huh? You mean abolished the law (lawlessness) right Steve? Let's look at your scriptures first then move on to what the bible actually says. You make the claim here that Jesus abolished the law and in support of your teaching you provide John 1:17 and Matthew 11:13. Lets examine these scriptures and see if they are teaching that Gods' law is now abolished then compared your claim with other scriptures in Gods' Word on Gods' law...

John 1:17, For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Matthew 11:13 For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.

None of the above scriptures teach that Gods' law is abolished. The law was given by Moses and it was the Mosaic laws written in the book and the prophets that all prophesied of the coming of Christ! All the laws for remission of sins under the old covenant including all the laws of the Levitical Priesthood, the Sanctuary laws, the laws for remission of sins and the sin offerings, the annual Feast days and the prophets all prophesied on the coming of the Messiah which pointed to Jesus (see Hebrews 7:1-25; Hebrews 8:1-13; Hebrews 9:1-27 and Hebrews 10:1-22. All these were up until John the baptist.

HEBREWS 10:1-19
[1] For THE LAW HAVING A SHADOW of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with THOSE SACRIFICES WHICH THEY OFFERED YEAR BY YEAR continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
[2] For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshipers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
[3] But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year [Day of Atonement] *Leviticus 23:27-32.
[4] For IT IS NOT POSSIBLE THAT THE BLOOD OF BULLS AND OF GOATS SHOULD TAKE AWAY SINS.
[5], Therefore when he comes into the world, he says, SACRIFICES AND OFFERINGS YOU DESIRED NOT, BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME:
[6], In BURNT OFFERINGS AND SACRIFICES FOR SIN you have had no pleasure.
[7], Then said I, Lo, I COME IN THE VOLUME OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME, to do your will, O God.

These scripture are not talking about Gods' 10 commandments that in the new covenant give us the knowledge of good (moral right doing) and evil (moral wrong doing); sin (moral wrong doing) and righteousness (moral right doing) *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4 and lead us to Christ that we might be forgiven through faith *Galatians 3:22-25 to be born again into God's new covenant promise *Hebrews 8:10-12 from Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Ezekiel 36:24-27 to be made free from the condemnation of sin and death *Romans 8:1-4; Galatians 5:16 to love God with all of our soul, heart and mind and our neighbor as our self.

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According to the scriptures everyone of God's 10 commandments are repeated in the new covenant as a requirement and the standard of Christian living (scripture support here).

WHAT DID JESUS AND THE APOSTLES TEACH ABOUT GOD’S LAW
(the scriptures below are no where near exhaustive)

Jesus taught the 10 commandments…..

1. Jesus kept God’s Law (10 commandments) and said the Law and the prophets would not pass away (Matthew 5:17-18)
2. Jesus taught others to follow the 10 commandments (Mark 10:17-21)
3. Jesus taught that Love is the fulfilling (doing) of God’s Law (10 commandments Matthew 22:36-40)
4. If we break God’s Law by following man-made traditions we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
5. Jesus says if we commit sin we are a servant of sin and he has come to free us from sin (John 8:32-36)
6. Jesus taught if you love God you will keep God’s Law and abide in His Love (John 14:15; 15:10
7. If anyone is breaking any of God’s commandments and teaching others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven <least = lost> (Matthew 5:19)
8. No one can obey God’s Law producing the fruit of obedience of ourselves and unless we abide in Jesus we can do nothing (John 15:4-10)

Paul affirms the Ten Commandments……

1. Paul teaches God's people keep the Sabbath Hebrews 4:1-9.
2. Paul tells gentiles that "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Corinthians 7:19
3. Paul tells gentiles "it is not the HEARERS of the Law that are just before God but the DOERS of the Law will be justified... on the day when according to my GOSPEL God will judge all mankind" Romans 2:13-16
4. Paul asks that gentiles consider the doctrine of LAW "Do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law of God" Romans 3:31
5. Paul tells ALL Christians that it is only the lost who will "not subject themselves to the Law of God neither indeed CAN they" Romans 8:6-8
6 Paul reaches all Christians under the NEW Covenant that God's LAW as known in Jeremiah 31:31-33 is "written on the heart and mind" Hebrews 8:7-11
7. Paul tells all Christians that the OT text is to be used for Doctrine 2 Timothy 3:16
AND He never claims that "if I did not write it -- it is not scripture for us today" -- as one or two have imagined for us.
8. Paul tells all Christians that the 5th commandment is the "FIRST commandment with a promise" Ephesians 6:1-2 and is binding on all Christians.
9. God's Law (10 commandments) are holy, just and good (Romans 7:12)
10. God's Law gives us a knowledge of what sin is (Romans 3:20; 7:7)
11. The penalty of breaking God's Law without Jesus is death (Romans 6:23)
12. If we break God's Law we dishonor God (Romans 2:23)
13. If we sin we are "under the Law" and guilty before God (Romans 3:19)
14. We are saved by faith but our faith establishes the Law in us (Romans 3:31)
15. If we are saved by grace we should not break God's Law (Romans 6:1-7)
16. We should not break God's Law if we are under grace (Romans 6:15)
17. We are to serve the Law of God through the mind because that is where sin starts (Romans 6:17; 7:25; 8:4; 12:2)
18. It is God's Law that brings us to Jesus (Galatains 3:24)
19. God's salvation frees us from sin so we can be obedient to God's Law and live a life of holiness (Romans 6:22)
20. We will be judged by God's Law and only those that are obedient will be justified because of their faith (Romans 2:4-13)
21. God's Law can only be obeyed through love and a changed heart which comes by faith in God's Word (Romans 2:21-29; 13:9-10; Hebrews 8:9-10)
22. If we break God's Law and are in unrepentant sin we will be lost and will received God's judgements (Hebrews 10:26-27)

John affirms the 10 commandments……

1. John says it is only by keeping God’s 10 commandments that we know that we know God (1 John 2:3)
2. If someone says that they know God and do not keep God’s 10 commandments they are lying and not telling the truth (1 John 2:4)
3. We should purify ourselves as Jesus is pure (1 John 3:3)
4. Sin is the breaking of God’s 10 commandments (1 John 3:4)
5. Whoever is abiding in Christ does not commit sin (1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10)
6. If you are in unrepentant sin you have not seen Jesus or know him (1 John 3:6)
7. John warns us that only those that are obedience to God’s Law are his true followers (1 John 3:7)
8. If someone is committing unrepentant sin they are following the devil and not God (1 John 3:7)
9. If you are born of God and abiding in him you will not commit sin (1 John 3:9; 1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10
10. It is the keeping of God’s commandments that is the difference between those that are following God and those that are not following God (1 John 3:10; 1 John 5:3)
11. It is only by Love through faith that we can keep God’s commandments (1 John 5:3-4)
12. God’s true believers in the end days will keep all of God’s commandments through faith in Jesus (Rev 14:12; 22:14)

James also affirms the 10 commandments…….

1. James says God’s Law (10 commandments) are a Royal Law (James 2:8)
2. If we break one of God’s commandments we a guilty before God as sinners breaking all of God’s Law and gave some examples of breaking God’s Law (James 2:9-11)
3. James says God’s Law is a law of liberty and freedom (James 2:12)
4. The 10 commandments (God’s Law) are the standard in the judgment (James 2:12)
5. If our faith does not have the fruit of obedience to God’s Law it is dead and not true faith (James 2:16-26)

Peter affirms the 10 commandments……..

1. Sanctification is to obedience to God’s Law (1 Peter 1:2)
2. We can only be changed from sin to obedience to God’s Law by the power of God and it will be revealed in the last days (1 Pet 1:5)
3. We should give up our sins to be holy because Jesus is holy (1 Peter 1:13-16)
4. Jesus is your example who did no sin (1 Peter 2:21-22)
5. Cease from sin and do not live in the flesh (1 Peter 4:1-3)
6. Judgement will begin at the house of God and sinners (those breaking God’s 10 commandments) will not be saved.
7. God has given us his precious promises and as we believe them God will grant us his divine power to live a life of Godliness (obedience to God’s Law; 2 Peter 1:2-4)
8. The Un-Godly (disobedient to God’s Law) will be like Sodom and Gomorrah (2 Peter 2:6)
9. If any turn away from God’s Law and are in unrepentant sin breaking any of God’10 commandments they will be lost (2 Peter 2:20-22)
10 God is not willing that any should perish but that everyone should come to repentance and turn away from sin to follow God’s 10 commandments because those that do not will receive the judgements of God (2 Peter 3:5-14)

What did Jesus and the Apostles teach about the Sabbath in the New Testament?

1. It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56)
2. Jesus made the Sabbath for all mankind (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:1-3; 14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17; Mark 2:27)
3. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28)
4. If you do not believe and follow God you cannot enter His Sabbath rest (Hebrews 4)
5. It is one of God’s 10 commandments we break it we are guilty or breaking all (James 2:8-12)
6. Breaking it is sin (1 John 3:4)
7. God’s true followers keep it Holy as God commanded (Revelation 14:12; Revelation 22:14; Ezekiel 20:20)
8. Jesus is our example and he kept the Sabbath (Matthew 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matthew 16:24; 1 Corinthians 11:1; Ephesians 5:1-21; Peter 2:20-22)
9. The Apostle kept the Sabbath (Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Revelation 1:10)

God’s Law in the NC is written on our hearts it is through love and it is love the fulfills God’s Law in us as we walk not after the flesh but after the spirit and is why Jesus says f you love me keep my commandments. (John 14:15; John 15:10). If we knowingly break one of God’s commandments we commit sin (1 John 3:4). This includes the 7th Day Sabbath which Jesus made for us and commands us to keep as a holy day.

Sorry Steve it seems God's Word does not agree with your teachings here.

Hope this is helpful.

 

[The Liturgist]

Deconstructing the law huh? You mean abolished the law (lawlessness) right Steve? Let's look at your scriptures first then move on to what the bible actually says. You make the claim here that Jesus abolished the law and in support of your teaching you provide John 1:17 and Matthew 11:13. Lets examine these scriptures and see if they are teaching that Gods' law is now abolished then compared your claim with other scriptures in Gods' Word on Gods' law...

John 1:17, For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
Matthew 11:13 For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John.

None of the above scriptures teach that Gods' law is abolished. The law was given by Moses and it was the Mosaic laws written in the book and the prophets that all prophesied of the coming of Christ! All the laws for remission of sins under the old covenant including all the laws of the Levitical Priesthood, the Sanctuary laws, the laws for remission of sins and the sin offerings, the annual Feast days and the prophets all prophesied on the coming of the Messiah which pointed to Jesus (see Hebrews 7:1-25; Hebrews 8:1-13; Hebrews 9:1-27 and Hebrews 10:1-22. All these were up until John the baptist.

HEBREWS 10:1-19
[1] For THE LAW HAVING A SHADOW of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with THOSE SACRIFICES WHICH THEY OFFERED YEAR BY YEAR continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
[2] For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshipers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
[3] But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year [Day of Atonement] *Leviticus 23:27-32.
[4] For IT IS NOT POSSIBLE THAT THE BLOOD OF BULLS AND OF GOATS SHOULD TAKE AWAY SINS.
[5], Therefore when he comes into the world, he says, SACRIFICES AND OFFERINGS YOU DESIRED NOT, BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME:
[6], In BURNT OFFERINGS AND SACRIFICES FOR SIN you have had no pleasure.
[7], Then said I, Lo, I COME IN THE VOLUME OF THE BOOK IT IS WRITTEN OF ME, to do your will, O God.

These scripture are not talking about Gods' 10 commandments that in the new covenant give us the knowledge of good (moral right doing) and evil (moral wrong doing); sin (moral wrong doing) and righteousness (moral right doing) *Romans 3:20; Romans 7:7; 1 John 3:4 and lead us to Christ that we might be forgiven through faith *Galatians 3:22-25 to be born again into God's new covenant promise *Hebrews 8:10-12 from Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Ezekiel 36:24-27 to be made free from the condemnation of sin and death *Romans 8:1-4; Galatians 5:16 to love God with all of our soul, heart and mind and our neighbor as our self.

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According to the scriptures everyone of God's 10 commandments are repeated in the new covenant as a requirement and the standard of Christian living (scripture support here).

WHAT DID JESUS AND THE APOSTLES TEACH ABOUT GOD’S LAW
(the scriptures below are no where near exhaustive)

Jesus taught the 10 commandments…..

1. Jesus kept God’s Law (10 commandments) and said the Law and the prophets would not pass away (Matthew 5:17-18)
2. Jesus taught others to follow the 10 commandments (Mark 10:17-21)
3. Jesus taught that Love is the fulfilling (doing) of God’s Law (10 commandments Matthew 22:36-40)
4. If we break God’s Law by following man-made traditions we are not following God (Matthew 15:3-9)
5. Jesus says if we commit sin we are a servant of sin and he has come to free us from sin (John 8:32-36)
6. Jesus taught if you love God you will keep God’s Law and abide in His Love (John 14:15; 15:10
7. If anyone is breaking any of God’s commandments and teaching others to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven <least = lost> (Matthew 5:19)
8. No one can obey God’s Law producing the fruit of obedience of ourselves and unless we abide in Jesus we can do nothing (John 15:4-10)

Paul affirms the Ten Commandments……

1. Paul teaches God's people keep the Sabbath Hebrews 4:1-9.
2. Paul tells gentiles that "what matters is KEEPING the Commandments of GOD" 1 Corinthians 7:19
3. Paul tells gentiles "it is not the HEARERS of the Law that are just before God but the DOERS of the Law will be justified... on the day when according to my GOSPEL God will judge all mankind" Romans 2:13-16
4. Paul asks that gentiles consider the doctrine of LAW "Do we then make void the LAW of God by our faith? God forbid! In fact we establish the Law of God" Romans 3:31
5. Paul tells ALL Christians that it is only the lost who will "not subject themselves to the Law of God neither indeed CAN they" Romans 8:6-8
6 Paul reaches all Christians under the NEW Covenant that God's LAW as known in Jeremiah 31:31-33 is "written on the heart and mind" Hebrews 8:7-11
7. Paul tells all Christians that the OT text is to be used for Doctrine 2 Timothy 3:16
AND He never claims that "if I did not write it -- it is not scripture for us today" -- as one or two have imagined for us.
8. Paul tells all Christians that the 5th commandment is the "FIRST commandment with a promise" Ephesians 6:1-2 and is binding on all Christians.
9. God's Law (10 commandments) are holy, just and good (Romans 7:12)
10. God's Law gives us a knowledge of what sin is (Romans 3:20; 7:7)
11. The penalty of breaking God's Law without Jesus is death (Romans 6:23)
12. If we break God's Law we dishonor God (Romans 2:23)
13. If we sin we are "under the Law" and guilty before God (Romans 3:19)
14. We are saved by faith but our faith establishes the Law in us (Romans 3:31)
15. If we are saved by grace we should not break God's Law (Romans 6:1-7)
16. We should not break God's Law if we are under grace (Romans 6:15)
17. We are to serve the Law of God through the mind because that is where sin starts (Romans 6:17; 7:25; 8:4; 12:2)
18. It is God's Law that brings us to Jesus (Galatains 3:24)
19. God's salvation frees us from sin so we can be obedient to God's Law and live a life of holiness (Romans 6:22)
20. We will be judged by God's Law and only those that are obedient will be justified because of their faith (Romans 2:4-13)
21. God's Law can only be obeyed through love and a changed heart which comes by faith in God's Word (Romans 2:21-29; 13:9-10; Hebrews 8:9-10)
22. If we break God's Law and are in unrepentant sin we will be lost and will received God's judgements (Hebrews 10:26-27)

John affirms the 10 commandments……

1. John says it is only by keeping God’s 10 commandments that we know that we know God (1 John 2:3)
2. If someone says that they know God and do not keep God’s 10 commandments they are lying and not telling the truth (1 John 2:4)
3. We should purify ourselves as Jesus is pure (1 John 3:3)
4. Sin is the breaking of God’s 10 commandments (1 John 3:4)
5. Whoever is abiding in Christ does not commit sin (1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10)
6. If you are in unrepentant sin you have not seen Jesus or know him (1 John 3:6)
7. John warns us that only those that are obedience to God’s Law are his true followers (1 John 3:7)
8. If someone is committing unrepentant sin they are following the devil and not God (1 John 3:7)
9. If you are born of God and abiding in him you will not commit sin (1 John 3:9; 1 John 3:6; John 15:4-10
10. It is the keeping of God’s commandments that is the difference between those that are following God and those that are not following God (1 John 3:10; 1 John 5:3)
11. It is only by Love through faith that we can keep God’s commandments (1 John 5:3-4)
12. God’s true believers in the end days will keep all of God’s commandments through faith in Jesus (Rev 14:12; 22:14)

James also affirms the 10 commandments…….

1. James says God’s Law (10 commandments) are a Royal Law (James 2:8)
2. If we break one of God’s commandments we a guilty before God as sinners breaking all of God’s Law and gave some examples of breaking God’s Law (James 2:9-11)
3. James says God’s Law is a law of liberty and freedom (James 2:12)
4. The 10 commandments (God’s Law) are the standard in the judgment (James 2:12)
5. If our faith does not have the fruit of obedience to God’s Law it is dead and not true faith (James 2:16-26)

Peter affirms the 10 commandments……..

1. Sanctification is to obedience to God’s Law (1 Peter 1:2)
2. We can only be changed from sin to obedience to God’s Law by the power of God and it will be revealed in the last days (1 Pet 1:5)
3. We should give up our sins to be holy because Jesus is holy (1 Peter 1:13-16)
4. Jesus is your example who did no sin (1 Peter 2:21-22)
5. Cease from sin and do not live in the flesh (1 Peter 4:1-3)
6. Judgement will begin at the house of God and sinners (those breaking God’s 10 commandments) will not be saved.
7. God has given us his precious promises and as we believe them God will grant us his divine power to live a life of Godliness (obedience to God’s Law; 2 Peter 1:2-4)
8. The Un-Godly (disobedient to God’s Law) will be like Sodom and Gomorrah (2 Peter 2:6)
9. If any turn away from God’s Law and are in unrepentant sin breaking any of God’10 commandments they will be lost (2 Peter 2:20-22)
10 God is not willing that any should perish but that everyone should come to repentance and turn away from sin to follow God’s 10 commandments because those that do not will receive the judgements of God (2 Peter 3:5-14)

What did Jesus and the Apostles teach about the Sabbath in the New Testament?

1. It is lawful to do good on the Sabbath (Matthew 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56)
2. Jesus made the Sabbath for all mankind (Hebrews 1:2; John 1:1-3; 14; Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:16-17; Mark 2:27)
3. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath (Mark 2:28)
4. If you do not believe and follow God you cannot enter His Sabbath rest (Hebrews 4)
5. It is one of God’s 10 commandments we break it we are guilty or breaking all (James 2:8-12)
6. Breaking it is sin (1 John 3:4)
7. God’s true followers keep it Holy as God commanded (Revelation 14:12; Revelation 22:14; Ezekiel 20:20)
8. Jesus is our example and he kept the Sabbath (Matthew 12:1-8; 10-12; 24:20; Mark 3:1-5; Luke 6:1-10; 13:14-16; 14:1-5; John 7:22-23; 9:14; Mark 1:21; Mark 6:2; Luke 4:16; 31; Luke 14:1; 23:56; John 2:6; Matthew 16:24; 1 Corinthians 11:1; Ephesians 5:1-21; Peter 2:20-22)
9. The Apostle kept the Sabbath (Acts 13:14; 13:27; 13:44; 15:21; 16:13; 17:2; 18:4; Revelation 1:10)

God’s Law in the NC is written on our hearts it is through love and it is love the fulfills God’s Law in us as we walk not after the flesh but after the spirit and is why Jesus says f you love me keep my commandments. (John 14:15; John 15:10). If we knowingly break one of God’s commandments we commit sin (1 John 3:4). This includes the 7th Day Sabbath which Jesus made for us and commands us to keep as a holy day.

Sorry Steve it seems God's Word does not agree with your teachings here.

Hope this is helpful.

Can you link us to the site which you copy-pasted that material from? That would be helpful. Cheers mate.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Seriously?
I thought this issue was settled in Acts chapter fifteen.
(the Jerusalem Council) Where Peter said...

Acts 16:10 NIV
Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

No that is a false teaching. Acts 15 was over the question provided in the context you left out in Acts of the Apostles 15:1-2 which was over the question "Is circumcision a requirement for the salvation of new gentile believers?" This was the question Paul and Barnabas when to Jerusalem to consider. Not is Gods' 10 commandments still the standard for Christian living. That interpretation has Paul in contradiction with Paul when he says to the gentile Corinthian believers sometime latter in 1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing but the keeping of the commandments of God.

Hope this is helpful for you Steve.

 

[Saint Steven]

EGW ... made a litany of horrible accusations against the Roman Catholic Church ...

And then they turn around and call as a reliable witness the RCC as having changed the Day. Thus putting their trust in... (dare I say it?)

 

[The Liturgist]

No that is a false teaching. Acts 15 was over the question provided in the context you left out in Acts of the Apostles 15:1-2 which was over the question "Is circumcision a requirement for the salvation of new gentile believers?" This was the question Paul and Barnabas when to Jerusalem to consider. Not is Gods' 10 commandments still the standard for Christian living. That interpretation has Paul in contradiction with Paul when he says to the gentile Corinthian believers sometime latter in 1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing but the keeping of the commandments of God.

Hope this is helpful for you Steve.

So St. Peter was engaging in false teaching?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

What day was it for humankind? Were they commanded to rest the day after they were created? There is no evidence of humans observing the Sabbath until it was introduced in Exodus chapter sixteen. If so, show us. Thanks.

Who says? An argument in silence is not an argument at all. According to Jesus God made the Sabbath for mankind in Mark 2:27 and the Sabbath was made in Genesis 2:1-3. God created Adam and Eve on the 6th day of the creation week *Genesis 1:26-31. So there was only Adam and Eve when God made the Sabbath for mankind. By the way out of interest the Hebrew name for Adam is אָדָם ʼâdâm and means Human being. When Jesus uses the Greek word for the Sabbath being made for man in Mark 2:27 the Greek word is ἄνθρωπος ánthrōpos also means human being.

So Adam (human being) was the first to keep the Sabbath. Then we have what was written of Abraham were God says (not me)

Genesis 26:5 [5], .. Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

The Hebrew word for laws here out of interest it torah.

Hope this is helpful

 

[LoveGodsWord]

So St. Peter was engaging in false teaching?

No not at all. An interpretation of Acts of the Apostles 15 that teaches lawlessness is a false teaching. As posted in the scriptures and post you are quoting from Acts 15 was over the question provided in the context which is stated in Acts of the Apostles 15:1-2 which was over the question "Is circumcision a requirement for the salvation of new gentile believers?" This was the question Paul and Barnabas when to Jerusalem to consider. Not is Gods' 10 commandments still the standard for Christian living. That interpretation has Paul in contradiction with Paul when he says to the gentile Corinthian believers sometime latter in 1 Corinthians 7:19 Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing but the keeping of the commandments of God.

 

[Saint Steven]

... Jesus clearly tells us he did not come to destroy God’s laws...

Clearly, you say?
A reference to Matthew 5:17, no doubt.
How do you destroy the Prophets?

Jesus explained what he meant in Matthew twelve, after his resurrection.

Luke 24:44 NIV
He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Can you link us to the site which you copy-pasted that material from? That would be helpful. Cheers mate.

Post # 490. Why? I wrote it myself from my own study of Gods' Word

Your welcome

 

[spiritfilledjm]

I guess the real question is was the Sabbath a ceremonial law or a moral law?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

What amazes me is that those who believe in and teach the false doctrine of lawlessness (without law), seek to make Jesus a sinner by breaking His own commandments. That said we know that the scriptures teach that Jesus came to teach us what is truly lawful and what is not according to the scripture and the law. Of course who would know better then Jesus who is the creator of all. I am quite lost for words to see how people twist scripture and make claims to scripture not supported in scripture which is quite sad in my view.

God bless

I am at a loss for words too, especially when Jesus showed us how much He loves us by sacrificing Himself for our sins. The same people who professed love to God were accusing Jesus of sinning and it doesn't seem a lot has changed. God bless brother, keep sharing God's Word.