Gravity - is it really there?

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

True story.

Of course it is.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Of course it is.

I would not lie.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I would not lie.

Perhaps not, but judging from your posts, the reliability of what you claim to be true is seriously questionable, whether you really believe it or not.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Perhaps not, but judging from your posts, the reliability of what you claim to be true is seriously questionable, whether you really believe it or not.

I speak of strange things… truth is stranger than fiction.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

I speak of strange things… truth is stranger than fiction.

Strangeness is not an indicator of truth.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Strangeness is not an indicator of truth.

The Eye of the Sahara is obviously Atlantis.


Plato said it was a strange tale. And it is…

 

[JohnEmmett]

"The Eye of the Sahara is Atlantis" - Google Search

 

[Bungle_Bear]

"The Eye of the Sahara is Atlantis" - Google Search

Already discussed and demonstrated to be wrong

 

[JohnEmmett]

Already discussed and demonstrated to be wrong

No…

 

[chilehed]

Still, you should understand that the simply claim of "x is the result of y, so y exists" isn't "proof", if you cannot demonstrate this causal relation.

I'm not aware that I've made that claim. What I claim is that we know that gravitational attraction exists because it has been observed for at least as long as human beings have existed. We see it every day, and its dependence on mass and the gravitational constant is well established fact.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Already discussed and demonstrated to be wrong

you will master agnosticism…… when you admit you don't know

 

[Freodin]

I'm not aware that I've made that claim.

You did, here: "Because weight is the result of gravititional attraction, and with no gravity there is no weight."

I have given you an example of "weight" without gravitational attraction. Your claim is false.

See... it's not that I disagree with your position. I simply disagree with your approach in attempting to demonstrate it.

I understand that many Flat-Earthers and gravity deniers are not seriously looking for answers. They are looking for things that support their view, and disregard anything else.

But giving them "proofs" of the globe that can be shown to be faulty only strengthens their views, and it might prove as an obstacle to those who still can be convinced, or at least lead to ask the right questions.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

you will master agnosticism…… when you admit you don't know

Relevance?

 

[JohnEmmett]

Relevance?

you keep saying you "know" I'm wrong


which is knowing too much

 

[chilehed]

You did, here: "Because weight is the result of gravititional attraction, and with no gravity there is no weight."

Yeah, I guess I did.

Hmmm... perhaps formulation would be something like "weight is the result of being in a non-inertial reference plane", which would cover both of the flat-earther/gravity denier problems we've discussed.

 

[Kylie]

No…

You disagreeing with it does not make it wrong.

 

[JohnEmmett]

You disagreeing with it does not make it wrong.

You could learn why I believe

This is why

 

[Kylie]

You could learn why I believe

This is why

I know why you believe. Because you think things that sound cool must be true simply BECAUSE they sound cool.

I mean, your link commits the fallacy of assuming that Atlantis is real from the start.

First prove it exists and then try to find where it could have been. If you start with the assumption that it was real, then you'll find some justification for it's location, and that will just further convince you that your initial assumption was correct.

I mean, I could go and find evidence for where the Fairy City is located, and when I find evidence pointing to a particular location, I'll say, "This prove that the fairy city is real!"

But of course it doesn't.

 

[JohnEmmett]

I mean, I could go and find evidence for where the Fairy City is located

Fairy is a dimension directly above ours


It's the motivation for Tolkien's writing

 

[JohnEmmett]

I know why you believe. Because … they sound cool.

It's a cautionary tale.