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Challenge Thread: Was Pluto our Ninth Planet in the Fourth Century?

Was Pluto our ninth planet in the fourth century?


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TLK Valentine

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Suit yourself.

Just don't try to get me to believe Jesus is going to love bomb Satan into the bottomless pit.

Love your enemies... guess those were empty words.
 
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As I said, read the book of Revelation, and you just might understand.

After those thousand years, Satan is going to be let loose, and he is going to go out and ...

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.


In other words, your band of people who are high on love are going to change their minds and come after us saints with malintent.

Then the true God of Love is going to step in and single-handedly call down fire and put an end to all this charade once and for all.

THEN later, He is going to take your [panentheist] universe and "melt it with fervent heat" and remake it into a New Heavens and New Earth.

2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

And that may be just the last thing scientists hear before they begin their everlasting tenure in their designated areas.

They'll forever hear that "Big Bang" they always relied on throughout their lives.

Get over it, dlamberth.

We're not living in the Summer of Love anymore.

We tried that -- it didn't work.

If you wonder why we treat your repetitive "challenge" anitics with disdain this is it. When we reject the repetition, you sometimes bring out your fire, destruction, and death fetishes. You are not amusing. At all.
 
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Only to those who want to make an issue out of it by claiming the Bible is in error by attaching that passage to a list of fowl.Yup.I'll be more than happy to, if someone gives me a better example I can use of something in science being changed by a rigged vote.

Until then, I intend to use Pluto as a "poster child" for crooks in the scientific field.
There are far more crooks in Christianity. Don't you think you should get your own house in order first?
 
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I'll be more than happy to, if someone gives me a better example I can use of something in science being changed by a rigged vote.

And you still think this is somehow an indictment of science? Because someone finally codified a classification?

Wow. Your understanding of science is limited.
 
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Once again, AV, you apparently think that the word we use to refer to something changes that thing in some way.

When your only "talents" are obfuscation and equivocation, nothing matters more than the meanings of words... except perhaps how they can be manipulated.
 
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I understand it a LOT better than you do.
And Evel Knievel still can't jump the Grand Canyon.

If your understanding of science is so much better than mine ... (which I'm sure it is) ... then you should be able to come up with a better poster child than the one I'm using?

In addition, if your understand is so good, why aren't you railing against a crooked vote?

Is it because you're content to let the ends justify the means?
 
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And Evel Knievel still can't jump the Grand Canyon.

If your understanding of science is so much better than mine ... (which I'm sure it is) ... then you should be able to come up with a better poster child than the one I'm using?

In addition, if your understand is so good, why aren't you railing against a crooked vote?

Is it because you're content to let the ends justify the means?
You're not railing against crooked voting, you're railing against one specific vote which you consider to be crooked. Why?
 
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You're not railing against crooked voting, you're railing against one specific vote which you consider to be crooked. Why?
Because my spider sense tells me crooked votes have happened before in other areas.
 
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And Evel Knievel still can't jump the Grand Canyon.

If your understanding of science is so much better than mine ... (which I'm sure it is) ... then you should be able to come up with a better poster child than the one I'm using?

Because I'm not in a one-man war on science while hiding behind mush-mouthed "Scientists are God's gift!" language.

In addition, if your understand is so good, why aren't you railing against a crooked vote?

Yes, my "understand is so good".

Is it because you're content to let the ends justify the means?

WHAT ENDS??? Jeez dude! If someone calls a mineral jimthompsonite do you pitch a fit? NO! It's classification, taxonomy.

Sheesh!
 
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My mission field is academia.
Matthew 7:5 "Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye."

According to your holy book, Jesus said it himself - get your own house in order before attacking others.
 
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Because my spider sense tells me crooked votes have happened before in other areas.
In a hypothetical world if I had the opportunity of voting I would have demoted Pluto's planetary status.
Reasons as stated in another post;
Pluto was incorrectly associated with Planet 'X" for causing perturbations in the orbit of Uranus.
It's mass is not high enough to cause the perturbations and the concept of Planet 'X' disappeared by the early 1990's as the mass of Neptune was overestimated.

Now AV according to your impeccable logic that makes me a 'crook'; explain why my reasoning constitutes crooked behaviour.
 
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Now AV according to your impeccable logic that makes me a 'crook'; explain why my reasoning constitutes crooked behaviour.
Guilt by association.
 
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Because my spider sense tells me crooked votes have happened before in other areas.
Yes there was a republican who cast his dead wife's absentee ballot.
Do you have any real evidence? No, this is just sour grapes.
 
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Yes there was a republican who cast his dead wife's absentee ballot.
Is there something wrong with dead people voting?

Should a person lose his/her right to vote, just because he/she bought the farm?
 
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