My TQ Challenge

[Kylie]

No

What's your basis for this?

 

[quatona]

Huh? What in the world does this mean?

I can turn into an eagle and soar majestically above the clouds. But I can only transform when no one is looking. What's that you say? You want evidence for this claim? Well, to be honest, I have no evidence because there can't be evidence for women turning into eagles - so the absence of evidence for it is evidence for it.

I now conclude you are convinced that I can turn into an eagle.

It´s AV´s logic. What can I do?

 

[quatona]

Since you want to go the ad-hominem route..... what was stupid was not being able to comprehend that making them understand apples can only come from pre-existing apples and that evolutionists also rely on absent evidence - since none have been observed to come from any other source, leads to the support of your answer.

Well, when we observe where apples come from we have evidence where apples come from. That´s the most direct way of constituting "evidence".

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, when we observe where apples come from we have evidence where apples come from.

But just like Luke's genealogy, you should conclude the first apples came from God.

Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

 

[Phred]

But just like Luke's genealogy, you should conclude the first apples came from God.

Luke 3:38 Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

Genesis 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

If the Bible were correct we would see evidence of this in the fossil record. And in the way the world was. We would see all sorts of different things that would lead us to the conclusion that it was created. Then we'd be teaching that in schools.

Problem is... we don't see that evidence. It's simply not there. The evidence you're desperately dying to find does not exist. When we look we find that apples, like all other plants and animals evolved.

I defy you to go look. You won't though. Because deep down inside you know I'm right.

 

[HitchSlap]

1. If God created an apple ex nihilo, what evidence would you give your friend He did this?

1. If god created an apple ex omnia, what evidence would you give your friend he did this?

2. Can God create a dress tomorrow so old it falls apart with age?

Can god create a dress a thousand years from now so new it appears to fall apart tomorrow?

3. If God created a loaf of raisin bread ex materia, would it constitute deception, since raisins are dried grapes?

If god created grape juice using lemons from ex nihilo, would it constitute wine, since raisins are simply wasted grapes?

 

[AV1611VET]

If the Bible were correct we would see evidence of this in the fossil record.

I can't believe you would expect to find evidence of the very first apples in the fossil record.

 

[AV1611VET]

3. If god created grape juice using lemons from ex nihilo, would it constitute wine, since raisins are simply wasted grapes?

4:

An apple created this second could be blue, squirt lemon juice, and have GROWN IN CALIFORNIA on it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Can you stop posting these challenge threads?

To me there are an open admission by AV that he is wrong . . . again.

 

[AV1611VET]

To me there are an open admission by AV that he is wrong . . . again.

One year after asking me to stop posting challenge threads he's gone (unless he's here under another name).

I'm glad I didn't oblige him.

 

[HitchSlap]

One year after asking me to stop posting challenge threads he's gone (unless he's here under another name).

I'm glad I didn't oblige him.

You were gone for a long while too. Taking a break or the banhammer?

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

You were gone for a long while too. Taking a break or the banhammer?

Maybe he had to visit a doctor?

 

[AV1611VET]

You were gone for a long while too. Taking a break or the banhammer?

Took a break on my own volition.

 

[Kylie]

One year after asking me to stop posting challenge threads he's gone (unless he's here under another name).

I'm glad I didn't oblige him.

Honestly, I kind of like your challenge threads.

I suspect a fair percentage of them are done for smart-alekery, but there's always a feeling of good-naturedness about them.

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

Honestly, I kind of like your challenge threads.

I suspect a fair percentage of them are done for smart-alekery, but there's always a feeling of good-naturedness about them.

Maybe because you enjoy the absurdity of his challenge relative to his pretend position?

 

[AV1611VET]

Honestly, I kind of like your challenge threads.

I suspect a fair percentage of them are done for smart-alekery, but there's always a feeling of good-naturedness about them.

Why, thank you, Kylie!

I like to think I have a sense of humor from time to time!

 

[AV1611VET]

Maybe because you enjoy the absurdity of his challenge relative to his pretend position?

"Pretend position"???

 

[Ponderous Curmudgeon]

"Pretend position"???

Yes Alfred: Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is utterly impossible to parody a Creationist in such a way that someone won't mistake for the genuine article.

 

[Kylie]

Maybe because you enjoy the absurdity of his challenge relative to his pretend position?

Every now and then he does have a decent one, and at least he has been known to change his viewpoints on some topics. I have seen many here who are not so willing!

Why, thank you, Kylie!

I like to think I have a sense of humor from time to time!

I still remember one post where you said the three kinds of rock were ingenious, megalomaniac and sentimental. Or something like that.

 

[Subduction Zone]

One year after asking me to stop posting challenge threads he's gone (unless he's here under another name).

I'm glad I didn't oblige him.

Me too. It is so handy when you admit that you are wrong in the title.