ID is officially dead.

[Landon Caeli]

Education and learning about reality is never a bad thing.

Just learning what is needed to get by is an incredibly dangerous thing for society as a fundamental pillar of democracy is an educated and rational populace.

Should people pursuing a career as a gourmet chef be expected to learn vectors? I would say, it's almost weird, that many atheists are so belligerent on everyone being taught evolution, regardless of their career choices...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against teaching evolution myself. I enjoyed it, as someone who can appreciate all kinds of differences. But something tells me there's a bigger 'mission' in play.

 

[VirOptimus]

Should people pursuing a career as a gourmet chef be expected to learn vectors? I would say, it's almost weird, that many atheists are so belligerent on everyone being taught evolution, regardless of their career choices...

Don't get me wrong, I'm not against teaching evolution myself. I enjoyed it, as someone who can appreciate all kinds of differences. But something tells me there's a bigger 'mission' in play.

Your conspiracy belief is noted.

Its wrong of course, as any educated rational person would know.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Perhaps for the simple reason that Evolution is a key unifying principle in biology.

That's true. There are standards within the Sciences. But not everyone is into science.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Your conspiracy belief is noted.

Its wrong of course, as any educated rational person would know.

Well, I think any good psychologist could vouch that people naturally tend to want to influence others with what they believe... Or what they know...

It's human nature, as humans are a social species.

 

[VirOptimus]

Well, I think any good psychologist could vouch that people naturally tend to want to influence others with what they believe... Or what they know...

It's human nature.

The theory of evolution is not a belief.

 

[Landon Caeli]

The theory of evolution is not a belief.

Correct, it's knowledge. That's why I said "or what they know".

 

[Frank Robert]

That's true. There are standards within the Sciences. But not everyone is into science.

College students who are not into science will take the least amount of science that they can, but if they learn that evolution is change over time through mutation and natural selection then they will know much more about evolution than creationists.

 

[NBB]

The theory of evolution is not a belief.

Its worse, its wrong science, evolution can't create conciousness and intelligence, biggest lie ever.
You need to know the world needs a excuse to discard God out of the creation process, they really need it, because they don't believe.

 

[VirOptimus]

Correct, it's knowledge. That's why I said "or what they know".

Then why did you also write belief? Your whole idea seem to be that there is some conspiracy for the ToE,

 

[Landon Caeli]

I wish there was an equal push to learn The six Grand Theories in psychogy, as there is the push to learn the TOE.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Then why did you also write belief?

Because nobody is forcing you to memorize scripture... Think about it for a minute.

 

[VirOptimus]

Its worse, its wrong science, evolution can't create conciousness and intelligence, biggest lie ever.
You need to know the world needs a excuse to discard God out of the creation process, they really need it, because they don't believe.

If you want to disprove the ToE write an article for peer-review. Fame, fortune and a place in all historybooks would be certain. Its every scientists wet dream to disprove a scientific theory.

If you cant, well, then your views dont matter.

 

[VirOptimus]

Because nobody is forcing you to memorize scripture... Think about it for a minute.

Because scripture is a religious belief and has nothing to do with knowledge of physical reality.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Because scripture is a religious belief and has nothing to do with knowledge of physical reality.

Exactly. That's why I wrote belief, as well as knowledge... Because I'm a fair man.

...The point was that everyone is eager to influence others. Whether through belief *or* knowledge. It doesn’t matter to the human mind.

 

[VirOptimus]

Exactly. That's why I wrote belief, as well as knowledge... Because I'm a fair man.

That I dont know, but you sure cant write clear posts.

 

[Landon Caeli]

That I dont know, but you sure cant write clear posts.

Try re-reading it. I edited for clarification. I really, really want to influence you!

 

[VirOptimus]

Try re-reading it. I edited for clarification. I really, really want to influence you!

Dont worry, you wouldnt influence me.

And your posts still reads like some conspiracy belief.

 

[Landon Caeli]

So who here would be for replacing our focus from ToE, to the Six Grand Theories of Psychology?

...The SGToP.

...Should be mandatory for everyone!

<sarcasm>

 

[Frank Robert]

Its worse, its wrong science, evolution can't create conciousness and intelligence, biggest lie ever.
You need to know the world needs a excuse to discard God out of the creation process, they really need it, because they don't believe.

There are both Christian and atheist evolutionists, just as there are Christians and atheists in all professional fields. There is no atheist requirement for affirming natural processes.

 

[Frank Robert]

Its worse, its wrong science, evolution can't create conciousness and intelligence, biggest lie ever.
You need to know the world needs a excuse to discard God out of the creation process, they really need it, because they don't believe.

If you believe in an omni deity then you shouldn't limit that deity's ability to create natural processes to consciousness and intelligence.