Aron Ra is a Christian Forums alumnus. He has done very well for himself since leaving this community. Here he explains Macro and micro evolution:
I like Aron Ra. He can be a bit of a fire-brand at times, but he gets the point across.
It takes 32 minutes to explain macro and micro evolution?Here he explains Macro and micro evolution:
And for the record, I tried to watch it, but stopped at 06:02 for obvious reasons.
I really have no clue. There was nothing insulting there. There was nothing shocking there.It takes 32 minutes to explain macro and micro evolution?
I'll get the condensed version from the dictionary.
And for the record, I tried to watch it, but stopped at 06:02 for obvious reasons.
I can’t speak to the content at 6 minutes, but the first 90 seconds is dedicated to insulting his opponents without actually presenting any information at all.I really have no clue. There was nothing insulting there. There was nothing shocking there.
Unfortunately that's the way the guy is.I can’t speak to the content at 6 minutes, but the first 90 seconds is dedicated to insulting his opponents without actually presenting any information at all.
Is he insulting or merely being accurate?I can’t speak to the content at 6 minutes, but the first 90 seconds is dedicated to insulting his opponents without actually presenting any information at all.
I think he found three different ways of saying that all people of faith are stupid in a single 60 second block of his opening. That sort of calls into question whether he really desires to explain anything to anyone.
This is an atheist “preaching to the choir” presentation, not really an attempt to communicate “across the aisle”.
Sorry, I find evolution plausible (but irrelevant to Civil Engineering) and I just found the presenter to be an arrogant ass. I would walk out on him as quickly as I would walk out on Benny Hinn.
Factual, not insulting. I just rewatched it myself. Where was he wrong? How did he insult?I rewatched the first 90 seconds just to be sure ... Insulting.
I don’t. His opening rant was pro-atheist because it was anti-faith. It had nothing to do with science and everything to do with his opponents and the irrational folly of faith. That is what made it an “atheist preaching to the choir”.And why do you make the creationist error of associating science with atheism?
If that is how you view it, then we really have no common ground for discussion. Enjoy the “atheist sermon”.Factual, not insulting. I just rewatched it myself. Where was he wrong? How did he insult?
Actually, it offends mine.?? Does learning that the corn we have today was nothing like the Mexican grass it came from many centuries ago offend your sensibilities? I mean... obviously.
I don’t. His opening rant was pro-atheist because it was anti-faith. It had nothing to do with science and everything to do with his opponents and the irrational folly of faith. That is what made it an “atheist preaching to the choir”.
I enjoy TED talks and have a strong background in Chemistry and the Earth Sciences, so I am skeptical of some evolutionary claims (like life emerging from non-living chemicals in the time frame given) and I object to the change in the definition of species that if applied to people would make the French and Iranians two different species (like Darwin’s Finch), however I am not crushed by the thought of an earth that is older than 6000 years or the thought that all bears share a common ancestor.
That said, I am a Christian and a Fundamentalist and I am unwilling to dismiss Genesis as “myth” given the relative track records of the Bible and sciences like Archeology. I am old enough to remember being taught that the Hittites were a myth because there were no Iron Age civilizations prior to the Egyptian Bronze Age ... proof that Genesis was wrong about the Hittites and their iron and chariot wheels. So I am unwilling to swallow the Sagan hubris pill of “billions and billions” and prefer to remain a little more open.
To hear a Creationist talk, unless science can create intelligent life from a vat of chemicals, it has not proven evolution. To hear Evolutionists talk, they were there when single celled organisms evolved into multicellular lifeforms. Both sides seem too arrogant towards the other.
Trying to educate people about reality is never a "sermon". Ironically you do something that Aron Ra pointed out in his talk. Creationists try to insult biology by stating or implying that it is a religion. It is demonstrably not so. It is evidence based. Religious beliefs are faith based. You are in effect belittling your own religious beliefs by trying to use religion as a put down.If that is how you view it, then we really have no common ground for discussion. Enjoy the “atheist sermon”.
No, it has not.By the legal standard of "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" evolution has been proven.
You were talking about finches. Corn is almost certainly a much more recent example of man made evolution.So will the corn.