Why Am I Eating a Pork Chop?

[The Liturgist]

By the way, SDA members should know I am not anti-SDA. I disagree with much of what Ellen White wrote, I want to see crosses more frequently in SDA churches, and I believe that Friday and Sunday are also holy days, but I don’t reject the Sabbath. I greatly respect the pro-life traditional morality of the SDA, which is in alignment with the SBC, the LCMS, the Eastern churches and the Roman Catholics. I have serious issues with some of the mainline churches which have capitulated to modern culture on abortion and homosexuality and other issues.

What I wish however is that all SDA members on CF.com could vocalize a pro-life, pro-sexual morality message rather than criticizing the non-SDA churches over various doctrinal differences. As it stands, many do, but several Adventists seem to be more interested in criticizing other churches, especially Roman Catholics. No one is going to be converted to Adventism by these polemics. What I say here applies to all other denominations also. CF.com needs a spirit of ecumenism.

 

[pescador]

By the way, SDA members should know I am not anti-SDA. I disagree with much of what Ellen White wrote, I want to see crosses more frequently in SDA churches, and I believe that Friday and Sunday are also holy days, but I don’t reject the Sabbath. I greatly respect the pro-life traditional morality of the SDA, which is in alignment with the SBC, the LCMS, the Eastern churches and the Roman Catholics. I have serious issues with some of the mainline churches which have capitulated to modern culture on abortion and homosexuality and other issues.

What I wish however is that all SDA members on CF.com could vocalize a pro-life, pro-sexual morality message rather than criticizing the non-SDA churches over various doctrinal differences. As it stands, many do, but several Adventists seem to be more interested in criticizing other churches, especially Roman Catholics. No one is going to be converted to Adventism by these polemics. What I say here applies to all other denominations also. CF.com needs a spirit of ecumenism.

You realize of course that this has nothing to do with the OP. If you want to discuss the SDA, there are other places to do so.

 

[pescador]

It is not incorrect. You keep trying to interject things that have nothing to do with the context of the text...please try to follow the discussion and respond to what I have written.

I have posted something similar.

 

[Strong in Him]

That added phrase actually makes no sense when you understand the context of the original Greek words in the passage...

It's still in Scripture.

And I was not brought up as a Jew, nor taught that eating pork is wrong.

 

[Strong in Him]

Again, it had nothing to do with actually allowing the consumption of non-kosher food

Again, your interpretation.

But this is not a passage that I would point to to try to "prove" that we can eat pork.
I was not one of those rescued from Egypt nor given those laws and that covenant. I have been rescued from sin and death by Jesus, whose blood was shed of the New Covenant, and I follow him. He has never told me not to eat pork - trust me, with all the things going on in my life and the problems and mistaken beliefs he has had to sort out in my past, eating bacon is not a problem.

 

[Leaf473]

Well they call our teeth omnivore teeth because we eat meat and plants so this is just a man-made name in my opinion. If you look at all the herbivore and carnivore animals you will see whose teeth we most resemble in real life. There is many ways to eat healthy and much of what a healthy diet consists of if we take the time to learn tastes easily as good of better then anything unhealthy. Also, one thing I did notice when I changed my diet is that your taste buds change and adapt to what your diet principally is made up of. I no longer crave the same unhealthy foods I use to eat.

God bless leaf

God bless you, too!

I was enjoying our conversation, I hope I didn't say something that offended you.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

God bless you, too! I was enjoying our conversation, I hope I didn't say something that offended you.

Oh not at all Leaf, me too, I liked talking with you as well.

God bless

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

It's still in Scripture.

And I was not brought up as a Jew, nor taught that eating pork is wrong.

And that matters why? My point still stands...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Again, your interpretation.

But this is not a passage that I would point to to try to "prove" that we can eat pork.

There is no interpretation, it says what it means within the context of the passage. OK so you agree with me then...

 

[Servus]

You have driven my conversation and original discussion completely off topic.

I think your evasive, vague and obscure posts have done that.

 

[coffee4u]

I have to disagree that lack of refrigerators was the reason God said don't eat pork.

A hog is a scavenger, designed to cleanse the earth. Scavenger animals are designed to handle poisons and wastes, and that's what one is eating when they eat scavenger meats. In 1 Timothy 4:3, Apostle Paul pointed to meats that God created to be received. He wasn't pointing to scavenger meats.

But this is not a salvation issue. But we shouldn't try to make excuses for eating scavengers that are unclean, and unhealthy for our body.

Also, the blanket of unclean meats God showed Apostle Peter in a vision, and told Peter to take and eat, that did NOT... mean all of sudden unclean meats are now OK to eat. God was only using that as an example of The Gospel was meant for the Gentiles also.

I didn't mention refrigeration, although that would certainly raise the risk of food poisoning.
This law had both spiritual and physical significance as did most of the laws.

 

[coffee4u]

Exactly! That is my whole point.
Aren't we also except we believe in Jesus?

Are we also Jewish?
Sorry I am not understanding the second part of your sentence.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I think your evasive, vague and obscure posts have done that.

Not at all. I was very specific regarding those passages...

 

[Servus]

Again, not what the scriptures teach us:

Mark 2:7 “Why does this fellow talk like that? He’s blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

The Pharisees also said:

Matthew 12:24 "This fellow does not cast out demons except by Beelzebub, the ruler of the demons."

 

[Servus]

Not at all. I was very specific regarding those passages...

That hasn't been my experience in trying to converse with you.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

That hasn't been my experience in trying to converse with you.

Sorry if that was your experience. My conversation with you was a different topic then the main OP

 

[Servus]

Sorry if that was your experience. My conversation with you was a different topic then the main OP

It started out on topic, but then it derailed. Mainly because I kept having to ask you to cite a source or be more specific, which you responded to with more vaguery, which lead to me trying to pin you down. Basically what ended up as a game of "cat and mouse".

 

[The Liturgist]

Sorry if that was your experience. My conversation with you was a different topic then the main OP

Also you never clarified which Eastern Orthodox jurisdiction you belong to, or how you reconcile Eastern Orthodoxy’s consumption of pork and shellfish with your apparent position.

 

[The Liturgist]

By the way, anti-Pork sentiment is actually dangerous for Christians in the Middle East. Outside of Cairo is Muqattam, which is a dirt-poor village of Coptic Orthodox pig farmers, whose pigs feed on the garbage of the city. In 2010, when the Swine Flu epidemic had everyone nervous, then-President Mubarak ordered all the pigs to be shot, which caused several Coptic Christians to starve to death. For Mubarak, the decision was easy, because from his perspective, pork is not halal, pigs are unclean, and the Copts were sinning against Islam by raising them. The Copts on the other hand had no other way to make a living, due to systematic discrimination and persecution of Copts during the reign of Mubarak and his successor Morsi. Things have gotten slightly better under President Sisi, but terrorist attacks targeting Coptic churches have become more frequent.

 

[Servus]

Also you never clarified which Eastern Orthodox jurisdiction you belong to, or how you reconcile Eastern Orthodoxy’s consumption of pork and shellfish with your apparent position.

I was beginning to wonder of a Kosher diet was a part of Eastern Orthodoxy.