'Public health experts' now call for three masks to stop the spread

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You can read my edit. I'm a private person, as you know
Fair enough. But with that, I’d say your questions were out of line in as much as you cannot answer them yourself.
 
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How did they get sick?
They don’t wear that stuff everywhere, just at work, and they still have to take it off to eat. They have to change our gear during the day too. Are you being disingenuous is asking such a question?
 
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They don’t wear that stuff everywhere, just at work, and they still have to take it off to eat. They have to change our gear during the day too. Are you being disingenuous is asking such a question?

Not at all. But you just gave a good example of why masks don’t work outside of controlled environments.
 
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Not at all. But you just gave a good example of why masks don’t work outside of controlled environments.
No, I gave an example of how masks only work when you’re wearing them.
 
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No, I gave an example of how masks only work when you’re wearing them.
How do you know that masks have prevented the other co-workers from getting COVID?
 
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If you and your friends knew anything about it, the deaths would not have jumped out of sight in the last few months. The facts of overwhelming deaths are proof enough. I don't need to prove anything. Their deaths are the proof. I use my right to reply and I don't debate. I have said my peace.
Take you hands off your eyes and see what is in front of you.:)
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There is direct correlation between people not following guidelines and getting sick. Every one I know who has gotten COVID has also been in situations where they or others weren’t following all guidelines.
 
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I’m promoting medical professionals who say that masks don’t work, and in some cases make things worse.
 
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How do you know that masks have prevented the other co-workers from getting COVID?
Do you have an alternative explanation for how people in direct contact with COVID patients haven’t gotten COVID? It’s highly contagious, right?
 
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Do you have an alternative explanation for how people in direct contact with COVID patients haven’t gotten COVID? It’s highly contagious, right?
They are medical professionals using medical PPE in a controlled environment.
 
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Nope, they aren’t missing anything. Some have actually read the studies that show they don’t work.
Unless you didn't read all my post, it seems you are saying that masks don't block droplets or else that being exposed to a lower initial amount of virus makes no difference, contrary to both long-established understanding and actual observations.
 
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Interesting. How well are those masks actually working?
Do you mean my own? -- We had a good friend visit who was very soon after diagnosed with Covid, but none of us in our household got Covid, even though the friend was in our house, but all of us wearing masks.

Is that what you are asking about? Or are you asking about research papers?
 
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Thought it was the virus that killed.
Suppose you were a 17 yr old and some person X told you "don't worry about drunk driving, get drunk and drive all you want, because being drunk isn't what matters for how well you drive" and then if you believed that, and then began to often drive drunk and then got yourself or someone else killed (some innocent person in another car you crashed into)...

Then, would it be entirely your own fault, or would person X actually have real blame?
 
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Suppose you were a 17 yr old and some person X told you "don't worry about drunk driving, get drunk and drive all you want, because being drunk isn't what matters for how well you drive" and then if you believed that, and then began to often drive drunk and then got yourself or someone else killed (some innocent person in another car you crashed into)...

Then, would it be entirely your own fault, or would person X actually have real blame?

That is a bummer.

You are shadowboxing.
 
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Whether or not the efficiency of three masks beats two masks, it wouldn't seem to matter much if the person takes off his mask(s) long enough to sneeze or cough or wears the mask(s) with the nose uncovered. I presume that every reader has seen these or similar moves while they have been out shopping, but once those people are inside the store they're home free so far as mask-wearing goes.

Wait! People take *off* their masks to cough or sneeze? (Am I reading your statement correctly?)

This is literally the *worst* mask "wearing" behavior they could do. I've seen a lot of fiddling, masks falling down, taken off to talk (also not great), taken off briefly to wipe the face or take a quick bite or sip, but I (thankfully) don't recall anyone removing it temporarily to cough or sneeze. (Early on before I realized the spreading hazards of ordinary speech and breathing, I assumed that the primary purpose of the mask was to contain the large sprays of droplets ejected in a sneeze or cough.) Even in non-pandemic times it was considered polite and promoting of public health to cover ones coughs and sneezes.
 
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Wait! People take *off* their masks to cough or sneeze? (Am I reading your statement correctly?)

This is literally the *worst* mask "wearing" behavior they could do.

I know. Must be force of habit. Or else thinking that they'll gag if they don't.
 
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That is a bummer.

You are shadowboxing.
What is shadowboxing? (I'm really asking, I have no idea, and feel it's best you tell me yourself in your own words)

If the analogy isn't exact enough in your view, in what specific way is it wrong?
 
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