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Um, that article had nothing to do with the slogan you referred to previously.
If you want official quotes, I can pull them directly from their website but to be honest....the stuff they say on there is a lot worse. We're all white supremacists bent on destroying black lives and black culture according to them.
See, when you make claims like that, based on an assumption, and avoid actually quoting directly from the organization itself, you don't exactly make your case seem very credible.
The more you ask me for official statements....the more it looks like you haven't ever read anything they wrote. Is that the case?
It's not about me. It's about what YOU are claiming, and what YOU are basing those claims on. If you want to maintain that BLM stands for something that is the opposite of what they, themselves, claim to stand for, you're gonna need to back it up.
Otherwise, I'm forced to conclude you're mistaken...or you're just making stuff up.
Did you read the pdf? It's straight from their official website. Here's the relevant passage....
White communities are used to consciously and unconsciously maintaining the racist policies and practices that led to Trayvon’s death—and, as white people, we must speak out against those policies and practices. When we remain silent and on the sidelines, we are complicit in maintaining these unjust systems. Our work is to get more white people who support us to take action toward racial justice—and to change the hearts and minds of those white people who are not yet with us.
I don't know how much more clearly you need it spelled out. They claim if you're white and silent (not repeating their propaganda) then you are a part of the problem.
That's their words....straight from their website.
And I see nothing in those words that supports or condones violence.
So when you claim they do, in fact, condone violence, what do you base that assumption on?
Follow these easy logical steps....
1. They believe you're guilty of injustice against black people....simply by not speaking up for their cause and being white.
2. That's called collective guilt. If you are white, they believe that you're guilty of injustice against blacks, because some white people are guilty of injustice against blacks.
3. If they hold everyone else to this standard....it's not only fair, it's appropriate to hold them to the same standard.
4. Therefore, when Black Lives Matter supporters or protesters commit violence ....Black Lives Matter is guilty of violence.
They believe in collective guilt....so it's appropriate to hold them responsible for the actions of their supporters.
Is that easy enough to follow?
Sure.
It means you are saying that you believe every organization or group is directly responsible for the actions of everyone who supports it, even when that organization disagrees with and denounces those actions.
If you are not saying that, then you disagree with what you think BLM is saying. But clearly, since you feel they should be held to the standard you describe, you do, in fact, agree with it.
Personally, I disagree with you on this point, by the way, but since it's clear I'm not going to be able to change your pre-judgments about this organization or the people who support it, I don't suppose there is much more I can say.
-- A2SG, you may want to check your assumptions, though...I think a few of them may have led you astray......
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