As riot raged at Capitol, Trump tried to call senators to overturn election

[Dan1988]

There is no need to give right wing seditionists a bad name. They are already bad actors.

Exactly which of the people arrested by the security services attempting to subvert the democratic process and gain access to the VPOTUS are left wing actors?

I’ll wait.

Tik Toc

You just have to wait, the police are currently investigating. They don't assassinate someone's character, until they have the evidence. Why are you jumping to conclusions, it doesn't show you or you cause n a very good light

 

[Dan1988]

That’s been there forever. It’s only now that the far white with its white supremacy enthusiasts, Dominionists, Oligarchs and dupes are facing the biggest loss in the battle for the soul of America in decades that they care about the country being divided.

I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of the white supremacy rage. They are armed to the teeth and they are, "Locked and loaded".
I hope this thing doesn't play out the way half the world believes it will, as it will be very sad to see such a thing happen to a country which was once great.

 

[Dan1988]

Why can’t you answer any questions? You want to be taken seriously without anything but vague references? Sorry. Anyone can make up that stuff. In reality you gotta do better. You cannot name any person, yet you want some all out investigation? You can’t even name what it is that has to be investigated? Follow the money ? From where to where?

I'd love to name names but I don't want to open Pandora's box. I have enough enemies as it is, I'm not looking to add anymore to my long list.

 

[Dan1988]

Yes dear, it’s pretty obvious you don’t understand. Let’s see if we can help.



That would be “you’re” and “in case” Dan. Let’s try to promote the education standards in Australia please mate.



Ok, here’s your problem pet. All that investigating and evidence-gathering you mention? That’s done by the police or investigators. Or, in the case of this sham concerning election fraud, it is the responsibility of Rudy and his clown car of incompetents. It is their responsibility to bring this evidence to the courts. It is NOT the responsibility of the courts to find this evidence, nor to “give them time” to get their case together.

They have failed more than 60 times to meet their responsibility.

Getting it yet?

You don't really know what goes on behind the scenes. Like most Americans, you believe everything the TV tells you to believe and that's what I get.

 

[Larniavc]

You just have to wait, the police are currently investigating. They don't assassinate someone's character, until they have the evidence. Why are you jumping to conclusions, it doesn't show you or you cause n a very good light

I’m jumping to conclusions?

If it turns out that there were left wing disguised bad actors found culpable in the aftermath the January Act of Sedition I will donate £50 to a Christian charity of your choice.

I will only hold you to an admission that you were wrong.

 

[cow451]

I'd love to name names but I don't want to open Pandora's box. I have enough enemies as it is, I'm not looking to add anymore to my long list.

I’ve noticed a trend among the “election fraud” crowd. Two months of bold assertion followed by sudden moonwalking.

 

[Yttrium]

i can't believe I need to remind you of the obvious fact, that you need two sides to have a war. Nobody hates themselves, they always hate the opposition. You say the right fomented hatred and I say the left did, so how do we know who is right and who is wrong.

I say you're both correct. Both the Right and the Left fomented hatred.

<-- Centrist

(Having said that, Trump in particular excels at stirring up paranoia.)

 

[KCfromNC]

Mr. Graham just happens to be on the same payroll as the others you mentioned. We would have to follow the money trail, to get to the root of it.

Perhaps the act of accusing a sitting US Senator of accepting money to help overthrow a legitimate election should happen after figuring out why you're accusing him of such. Because here you are doing the opposite and it isn't the least bit convincing.

 

[KCfromNC]

60 Minutes is not a credible program, I have not watched the program for a long long time because of the poor quality and suppression of facts. They had two months to do a story before the electoral count, the timing is revealing. Wouldn't it have been great for election officials to come out in the days after the election. The state of Georgia has so far refused to release the images of ballots and election logs. Election officials have been caught in numerous lies, the water main break, the leaky toilet, six or seven different stories, the last I heard was that the stop in counting was not due to any of those factors. Once elections officials were caught in numerous flat-out lies nothing short of the release of the aforementioned records will do.

Maybe if Donald's supporters had more than baseless empty claims like this they wouldn't have lost so many court cases.

Oh well, too bad, so sad. Better luck next time around.

 

[KCfromNC]

There's a difference between an anonymous source that doesn't pan out after three years of intense investigation

Did Donald's first attempt to prove election fraud (in an election he won, no less) really go on for three years?

 

[stevil]

While I can agree with your assessment, you know this “spin” will be along the lines of:
“The Democrats taught us how to ‘believe’ in evidence that isn’t there with the ‘Russia, Russia, Russia’ thing!
They made us like this!”

Democrats had nothing to do with the Russian investigation. It was started by the FBI and then taken up by the Special Council who was put in place by the Republican acting AG.

 

[cow451]

60 Minutes is not a credible program, I have not watched the program for a long long time because of the poor quality and suppression of facts. They had two months to do a story before the electoral count, the timing is revealing. Wouldn't it have been great for election officials to come out in the days after the election. The state of Georgia has so far refused to release the images of ballots and election logs. Election officials have been caught in numerous lies, the water main break, the leaky toilet, six or seven different stories, the last I heard was that the stop in counting was not due to any of those factors. Once elections officials were caught in numerous flat-out lies nothing short of the release of the aforementioned records will do.

Did the Georgia Governor, Secretary of State, LT. Governor or other state official commit or abet election fraud?

 

[wing2000]

60 Minutes is not a credible program, I have not watched the program for a long long time because of the poor quality and suppression of facts. They had two months to do a story before the electoral count, the timing is revealing. Wouldn't it have been great for election officials to come out in the days after the election. The state of Georgia has so far refused to release the images of ballots and election logs. Election officials have been caught in numerous lies, the water main break, the leaky toilet, six or seven different stories, the last I heard was that the stop in counting was not due to any of those factors. Once elections officials were caught in numerous flat-out lies nothing short of the release of the aforementioned records will do.

You obviously have no rebuttal for how Rudy edited the video and made false claims to the American people?

Is the Georgia Secretary of State and his deputy lying?

 

[wing2000]

From the 60 minutes interview with Georgia Election officials:


Trump campaign ad: America deserved an honest election. This is what they got: suitcases of ballots added in secret in Georgia…


Gabriel Sterling: It's before 10:00. The observers and the press are still in the room to see all of this occur.

With Republican and Democratic observers visible on the video, the still uncounted ballots were placed in official boxes which were labeled, locked with tamper-proof seals and stored below the table.

Gabriel Sterling: This is where they're packing up because they think they're going home. They're packing up to seal them so that nobody can, you know, mess with the ballots when no one's there.

But, less than an hour after the boxes were stored, Sterling says the staff was told they would have to keep counting through the night. So, the ballots were pulled out and counted. Sterling told us President Trump's team had always had the entire, unedited, video.

Gabriel Sterling: From my point of view, they intentionally misled the state senators, the people of Georgia, and the people of the United States about this to cause this conspiracy theory to keep going and keep the disinformation going, which has caused this environment that we're seeing today.

Scott Pelley: Are you saying they lied to the--

Gabriel Sterling: Yes.

Scott Pelley: --Georgia State Senate?

Gabriel Sterling: I'm saying that Rudy Giuliani looked them in the eye and lied.

Brad Raffensperger: And Rudy Giuliani knows that. He also, I believe, you know, he has some ethical standards as a member of the bar. He knows that what he said was not true. But our state senate did not ask us to come in there so that we could rebut what they said. And it was actually left as the gospel truth, and it wasn't. It was fabricated.

Georgia secretary of state describes call where Trump pressured him to find evidence of voter fraud




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[The Ant]

You don't really know what goes on behind the scenes. Like most Americans, you believe everything the TV tells you to believe and that's what I get.

What “ behind the scenes”?? Did Giuliani et al present their claims to various courts more than 60 times, or did they not? Did they fail each time, or did they not?

And I’m not an American.

 

[Pommer]

There's a difference between an anonymous source that doesn't pan out after three years of intense investigation when compared to over a thousand sworn affidavits while virtually zero of the swing states in question have released their computer records nor come up with any credible explanation as to why counting stopped in the middle of the night in Democrat cities.

Ballots are technically “legal documents” too.
And Joe Biden got seven million (+) more than President Trump.

 

[Pommer]

Democrats had nothing to do with the Russian investigation. It was started by the FBI and then taken up by the Special Council who was put in place by the Republican acting AG.

IKTAYKT (I know that, and you know that) but I was speaking of the mindset of the “spinners”.

 

[Zergling Rush]

I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of the white supremacy rage. They are armed to the teeth and they are, "Locked and loaded".

Yet one of their members was filmed crying at the airport when he was put on a no-fly list after the Washington protest. Not a good start.

 

[trunks2k]

Yet one of their members was filmed crying at the airport when he was put on a no-fly list after the Washington protest. Not a good start.

To be fair it seems that particular video was over a different issue - he refused to abide by covid safety rules (i.e wear a mask)

 

[Zergling Rush]

To be fair it seems that particular video was over a different issue - he refused to abide by covid safety rules (i.e wear a mask)

I believe there's actually two videos - the one of the guy in the black T-shirt (who did go to Washington) and another being claimed as showing capital protesters but, as you say, actually showing an incident from last year.