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Where do you stand on the 2020 election

Do you want a solid investigation into the election so truth can be shown either way?

  • I don't care, I just want to see my family for Christmas.

    Votes: 2 3.6%
  • Biden won, lets investigate and prove it.

    Votes: 11 20.0%
  • Trump won, lets investigate and prove it.

    Votes: 12 21.8%
  • This should be forensically investigated and the criminals imprisioned.

    Votes: 24 43.6%
  • Biden won, I don't want to investigate.

    Votes: 18 32.7%

  • Total voters
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Have you seen or have any evidence that even one affidavit has been read or one witness testified in any court?

The judge today read a pre written paper of dismissal. How much do you think he listened when his mind was made up beforehand?

That's what I thought. It's very very easy to find left based media.

Aha so you are able to see into the minds of the judges? Of course, I understand, And clearly if these court cases appeared in the ‘left based media’ then of course they never actually happened at all. Got it.
 
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It is interesting to see so many posters who are presumably fiscal conservatives supporting a massive waste of taxpayer money to bring frivolous cases to court.
 
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Not yet. However they are real people with eye witness accounts and signed affidavits. It's only a matter of time and legal procedure. Do you want that?
People signing affidavits isn't proof, it's testimony. They will need to provide proof to backup their testimony.
 
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People signing affidavits isn't proof, it's testimony. They will need to provide proof to backup their testimony.

Do you really think so many people would be lying? If they were, it would be a massive conspiracy, and I generally don't believe in conspiracies.
 
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Do you really think so many people would be lying? If they were, it would be a massive conspiracy, and I generally don't believe in conspiracies.
Yet To believe their testimony, you would have to conclude that exponentially more people are lying and conspiring to cover up the fact that Trump won, no? That a massive, coordinated fraud exists across the country to illegally register and certify that Biden got more votes?
Do you really think so many people would be lying?
 
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Do you really think so many people would be lying? If they were, it would be a massive conspiracy, and I generally don't believe in conspiracies.
Do you believe the state election boards are lying? Courts rely on provable testimony not people making wild claims.
 
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People signing affidavits isn't proof, it's testimony. They will need to provide proof to backup their testimony.
I agree. Affidavits are not proof... 1000 plus affidavits and not one court will take the risk of viewing them. This is a level of corruption that goes to the top of the courts.

Now, on SCOTUS, in the deal with Texas.. Texas, as a state, did not have a "standing" to be heard as the state was not a victim.... It's civilians and electors are.. This is where it will go next.

The Biden corruption with China is all connected. Swalwell is done, Hunter.... done.. Jim... done... Jill.. done... Joe.. done.

There is one date that matters. That is at the end of January. The states, the people and the evidence is growing in number. The truth will be shown.

You know they are guilty when they start wiping machines, shredding ballots and the like. Mean while YouTube, Twitter and Facebook are blocking, censoring and canceling anything that shows the corruption.

If you want to see the real live truth. Go to Rumble or Parlor. The truth must go there where it can be heard.
 
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I agree. Affidavits are not proof... 1000 plus affidavits and not one court will take the risk of viewing them. This is a level of corruption that goes to the top of the courts.

Now, on SCOTUS, in the deal with Texas.. Texas, as a state, did not have a "standing" to be heard as the state was not a victim.... It's civilians and electors are.. This is where it will go next.

The Biden corruption with China is all connected. Swalwell is done, Hunter.... done.. Jim... done... Jill.. done... Joe.. done.

There is one date that matters. That is at the end of January. The states, the people and the evidence is growing in number. The truth will be shown.

You know they are guilty when they start wiping machines, shredding ballots and the like. Mean while YouTube, Twitter and Facebook are blocking, censoring and canceling anything that shows the corruption.

If you want to see the real live truth. Go to Rumble or Parlor. The truth must go there where it can be heard.
You know...if your belief is only possible if several dozens of courts from all over the country conspire together against you? I'm going to have say your belief might not be as real as you think it is. :sorry:
tulc(is just sayn')
 
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You know...if your belief is only possible if several dozens of courts from all over the country conspire together against you? I'm going to have say your belief might not be as real as you think it is. :sorry:
tulc(is just sayn')
Actually.. the corruption is so deep and the organization has been going on for so long... that your beliefs are about to be flipped on their head. When you want to really understand it.... Facebook is blocking any posts that give evidence on the fraud. Twitter even blocks the president when he is tweeting facts.. YouTube is now blocking and banning anything that mentions the fraud, and or gives evidence.. The people giving these facts have moved to Rumble and Parlor in order to continue the action of utilizing their free speech, which is a constitutional right. If Biden does get inaugurate.. you will see even more restrictions on what can be said.. including religious truths that you and I hold to be true. Amazon is even banning books.. Do you know of any other time in history when you recall books being banned and people being restricted from stating things? Those that don't remember history are doomed to repeat it. Have you read "1984" or "Animal Farm"? The things that are happening right now in the US are right out of these books. CNN, MSNBC and other leftist media have not even mentioned the mounting evidence against the entire Biden family, including Joe, who has outright lied to the nation... It's not over. The swamp is deep and it's not just mud in this swamp.
 
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Facebook is blocking any posts that give evidence on the fraud.
facebook, youtube,twitter, etc all have the constitutional right to allow or disallow any content they want on their platforms..
Why do you oppose the exercise of constitutional rights?
Twitter even blocks the president when he is tweeting facts..
name one.

YouTube is now blocking and banning anything that mentions the fraud, and or gives evidence..

which is, again, their constitutional right.
If you oppose the free exercise of constitutional rights, just come out and say it.

The people giving these facts have moved to Rumble and Parlor in order to continue the action of utilizing their free speech, which is a constitutional right.

Which has not been abridged at all by any governmental agency, which is the only entity capable of abridging it.

Private for profit corporations choosing what they will allow on their platforms and what they won't is not a violation of anyone's free speech... you seem smart enough to know this already... weird.


If Biden does get inaugurate.. you will see even more restrictions on what can be said.. including religious truths that you and I hold to be true.

Paranoid speculation.

Amazon is even banning books..

Bookstores are incapable of Banning Books. Don't be silly.

Do you know of any other time in history when you recall books being banned and people being restricted from stating things?

If only that was actually happening....

It's not over. The swamp is deep and it's not just mud in this swamp.

yawn.
Better luck in 2024.. maybe your guy will win.
 
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facebook has the constitutional right to allow or disallow any content they want.
.Actually, they don't. That is why they don't get taxed.. because they are not an edited media. They will lose that soon which will mean no more tax breaks which they get now due to not being able to edit.


name one. Just google "Twitter blocks Trump tweets".. there is many.




If you oppose the free exercise of constitutional rights, just come out and say it. People have the right of free speech. Twitter, Facebook and YouTube don't block anything that supports the left.. only that which exposes the left. They do not have the right to do so. They don't have the right to edit. If they want that right it would place them in a category where they would have to forfeit their tax breaks and be designated as an editor. You have the right, in a free country, to post that there are aliens, 1 + 1 = 5, you can get pregnant from drinking vodka... or anything else.. these platforms cannot delete it... That is censorship. Maybe look up "Section 230"



Which has not been abridged at all by any governmental agency, which is the only entity capable of abridging it.

Private for profit corporations choosing what they will allow on their platforms and what they won't is not a violation of anyone's free speech... you seem smart enough to know this already... weird. Again.. check "Section 230" If you cannot go to a street corner and talk to everyone stating that you think you can live on grass.. then... soon you will not be able to go to a street corner and say that Jesus was the messiah and savior.. Do you think that the left are friendly to Christians?




Paranoid speculation. Well, it won't happen because Trump will be in office for another 4 years.



Bookstores are incapable of Banning Books. Don't be silly.
Amazon.com - Idea Lists


If only that was actually happening....

This happened... before the election. Now.. it is all found to be totally true..

Facebook and Twitter restrict controversial New York Post story on Joe Biden




yawn.
Better luck in 2024.. maybe your guy will win.

If the fraud is not exposed and Trump is not in office...there will never be another election in the US.

 
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...I went ahead and removed everything in your post that didn't address what was in my post. Because what I pointed out was that every court in the United States would all have to be involved (without exception) in order for what you believe to be true. And instead you talked about the media. And social media. And Amazon. And pretty much all the "right-wing boogiemen" But I do understand why you did. Because a lot of the judges in those courts were appointed by President Trump...so if they are involved, that kind of means...well...that's probably a bridge too far, huh?
tulc(safer to just attack the usual suspects instead) :sorry:
 
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I would like to address this one part:
(snip) that your beliefs are about to be flipped on their head. (snip)
And that would be: could you let us know when that happens?
tulc(would hate to miss seeing that)
 
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.Actually, they don't. That is why they don't get taxed.. because they are not an edited media. They will lose that soon which will mean no more tax breaks which they get now due to not being able to edit.

As a subsidiary of Google, and not a separate alphabet company, taxing YouTube would be double taxation. Google pays YouTube Taxes, if YouTube is ever profitable enough to be charged tax that is...

name one. Just google "Twitter blocks Trump tweets".. there is many.
It appears I wasn’t clear… Name one “fact” that Donald Trump tweeted that was blocked. You should have that at your fingertips, no?
I’m well aware the Twitter blocks trumps tweets, I’m just unaware of any FACTS that he tweeted that were blocked.
If you oppose the free exercise of constitutional rights, just come out and say it. People have the right of free speech. Twitter, Facebook and YouTube don't block anything that supports the left.. only that which exposes the left. They do not have the right to do so. They don't have the right to edit. If they want that right it would place them in a category where they would have to forfeit their tax breaks and be designated as an editor. You have the right, in a free country, to post that there are aliens, 1 + 1 = 5, you can get pregnant from drinking vodka... or anything else.. these platforms cannot delete it... That is censorship. Maybe look up "Section 230"

Section 230 only states that third-party platforms cannot be considered publishers of the content. The people who actually upload are the publishers. The Ninth Circuit did indeed rule, this year, that YouTube has the constitutional right to allow or disallow any content it wants.
Please see YouTube 'not a public forum' with guaranteed free speech

as I mentioned:
“That guarantee is between the government and the people - and does not involve private companies.”

Paranoid speculation. Well, it won't happen because Trump will be in office for another 4 years.
Are you a betting man? Because I’ll take that bet. Fact I’m going to flag this thread for me to revisit on January 20th at 12:01pm eastern time.
I hope you’ll join me :)
If the fraud is not exposed and Trump is not in office...there will never be another election in the US.

Pretty sure the folks who are arguing that the will of the voters should be ignored, are the ones promoting the notion of never having another election.
 
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People signing affidavits isn't proof, it's testimony. They will need to provide proof to backup their testimony.

They at least need to show up in court to testify--and be cross-examined--for it to even count as testimony.
 
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They at least need to show up in court to testify--and be cross-examined--for it to even count as testimony.
The majority of the affidavits seem to have been hearsay in context. This keeps down the possibility of being charged with lying because it's almost impossible to prove that the person "didn't hear" someone else saying something.
 
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