Fired for not wearing a Pride Shirt.

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You must not have read the article or any of the many transcriptions posted in this thread. There was no insistence on the part of the company that she do any such thing.

According to her lawsuit, there absolutely was.

When she began working, she made her religious needs known and her managers accommodated them.

Later, she and other employees attended a meeting in the store manager’s office in which there were Pride Tee-shirts by his desk. After the meeting, she asked the manager if she would be required to wear the shirt during her shifts. According to the suit, he said no.
But she was later handed a Pride shirt.

Still later, she was contacted by higher-ups and notified that she was being terminated because “her comportment was not in compliance with Starbucks’ core values.”

The alleged "comportment" apparently was a comment from her about everyone needing Jesus, that's all. It looks as though the company knew that they couldn't win on the basis of their discrimination against her religious faith, so they tried in their presentation to make it appear that something else was really the cause for the firing.
 
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Jesus never came for sinners. He came for the lost sheep of Israel. Which means repentant sinners. You don't pass the gate unless you are a lost sheep and you become a lost sheep when you repent. He never said he came for wolves or swine or serpents. None of them need a shepherd. Only sheep need him. And until someone repents and becomes a sheep they don't need him.
 
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The bible verses i posted before (Romans 1:18-32) is evidence that America has turned from the one true God and God has left America to its ways. Not to be pessimistic but i expect conditions to get worse.

And the devil took him up and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time, and said to him, “To you I will give all this authority and their glory, for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will." —Luke 4:5-6

Where are Christians in that statement? Neither America or the world were in our grasp. Many were deluded by ideologies that created a faux utopia which made them comfortable and complacent. Now the chickens have come home to roost and they're panicking.

We were never in control. It was a lie meant to undermine your strength and focus. And he succeeded.

Yours in His Service,

~bella
 
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Later, she was contacted by higher-ups and notified that she was being terminated because “her comportment was not in compliance with Starbucks’ core values.” The alleged "comportment" apparently was a comment from her about everyone needing Jesus, that's all.

Seems a mighty weak case for Starbucks.
 
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According to the article...
The girl answered direct questions about her religion only. She wasn't proselytizing.

And the suit alleges that basically she was fired for not endorsing the LBGTQ agenda...which is a far cry from tolerance.

And that is Social Marxism.

A small group (5% of society) forcing their ideologies upon the majority through financial, social embarrassment, and repeated false accusations.
 
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The alleged "comportment" apparently was a comment from her about everyone needing Jesus, that's all.

If it was more of a rant, and less of a comment, then Starbucks may be in the clear.
 
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A lot of Christians seem to want it both ways. As employees, to be exempt from company policies due to their personal beliefs. As employers, to be able to force employees to abide by their personal beliefs.

And share our opinions without reservation while complaining when others do the same. ;)

Happy Turkey Day sweets! :)

Yours in His Service,

~bella
 
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So that doesn't apply. Got any more?
So, even after I pointed out you had some reading to do, you didn’t read the article?
Can youn quite those guidlines for me, including source?
There’s not going to be a specific segment in the company guidelines saying “employees may not tell one another that they need Jesus.” But there doesn’t need to be. Starbucks is pro-lgbt rights, so having an employee berate others for wearing a shirt that says as much is clearly at odds with company values. I don’t know why you’re trying to weasel out of acknowledging this.
 
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