What is the Falsification for Abiogenesis and Theory of Evolution?

[NBB]

So, just like all the other creationists you are unwilling to know what you are arguing against.
You will not astonish us with a will to learn. How predictable ... and boring.

Oh, and since you know have labelled education as useless, it will not be rude to label you as ignorant.

Education about evolution is useless.

 

[driewerf]

God has compassion for you while on earth after that you either accepted Jesus here or rejected him and died with your injustices without pardon, this is basic christianity.

So yes, god is limited to the time we are alive. A limited god.

 

[Shemjaza]

Education about evolution is useless.

How would you know?

You haven't actually learned what it says or how it works.

 

[driewerf]

Education about evolution is useless.

Knowing what you are arguing about is useful. If not for any other purpose, it would give us more entertainment and a greater challenge. Now we are definitely boxing below our weight.

 

[NBB]

Knowing what you are arguing about is useful. If not for any other purpose, it would give us more entertainment and a greater challenge. Now we are definitely boxing below our weight.

Knowing the truth is useful. More when that truth can reveal the true purpose of life and something a lot better than any this world has to offer.

You are boxing for evolution you say? you are funny, fighting for a lost cause and your atheism, i don't have a problem with science, i like science, its just evolution. Anyway i'm not here to fight is that is what you wish.

 

[driewerf]

Education about evolution is useless.

You could start with studiyng about what science is, how it works and what the scientific method is. That's not 'evolution", but it will be a great step forward in the quality of this discussion.
https://www.geosociety.org/documents/gsa/geoteachers/NatureScience.pdf
http://www2.ic.uff.br/~vanessa/material/escience/02-ScientificMethod.pdf
http://course.sdu.edu.cn/G2S/eWebEditor/uploadfile/20140306165315001.pdf (153 pages)

 

[NBB]

You could start with studiyng about what science is, how it works and what the scientific method is. That's not 'evolution", but it will be a great step forward in the quality of this discussion.
https://www.geosociety.org/documents/gsa/geoteachers/NatureScience.pdf
http://www2.ic.uff.br/~vanessa/material/escience/02-ScientificMethod.pdf
http://course.sdu.edu.cn/G2S/eWebEditor/uploadfile/20140306165315001.pdf (153 pages)

Stop please, i don't care about evolution, its a lie that our origin is evolution.

 

[driewerf]

Knowing the truth is useful.

Exactly!

You are boxing for evolution you say?

No, that's not what I was saying.

 

[driewerf]

Stop please, i don't care about evolution, its a lie that our origin is evolution.

You can only have that reaction if you didn't open any of the links I posted. And this although I wrote clearly what these links were about. I wrote literally:
You could start with studying about what science is, how it works and what the scientific method is. That's not 'evolution", but it will be a great step forward in the quality of this discussion.
Read carefully what is written, like for example "what science is", "scientific method", or "that's not evolution".
These words mean something.

 

[NBB]

Exactly!

No, that's not what I was saying.

I cannot deny my own experience, its more worth for me my own experiences with God than some people saying God its not our origin, understand?.

 

[NBB]

You can only have that reaction if you didn't open any of the links I posted. And this although I wrote clearly what these links were about. I wrote literally:
You could start with studying about what science is, how it works and what the scientific method is. That's not 'evolution", but it will be a great step forward in the quality of this discussion.
Read carefully what is written, like for example "what science is", "scientific method", or "that's not evolution".
These words mean something.

Look just because i don't adhere to evolution, which is almost the only thing in science i don't follow then don't treat me as stupid. This is made worse when evolution is a lie actually, i have discerned my own soul and i know i have it inside, evolution can create souls now? God is our origin.

 

[driewerf]

don't treat me as stupid.

I try my best, but you make it hard.

 

[NBB]

I try my best, but you make it hard.

You keep coming with insults... but you are the actual ignorant of the truth

 

[Shemjaza]

Look just because i don't adhere to evolution, which is almost the only thing in science i don't follow then don't treat me as stupid. This is made worse when evolution is a lie actually, i have discerned my own soul and i know i have it inside, evolution can create souls now? God is our origin.

Physics?
Geology?
History?
Linguistics?

Once you start denying evidence without even knowing what it is based on your internal feeling and convictions you have to understand that people will make reasonable assumptions about what you know and don't know and why.

 

[NBB]

Physics?
Geology?
History?
Linguistics?

Once you start denying evidence without even knowing what it is based on your internal feeling and convictions you have to understand that people will make reasonable assumptions about what you know and don't know and why.

Its not internal feelings or convictions, you wouldn't understand, like i said if God appeared to you would you be an evolution origin believing atheist? of course not, God has made himself known to me, and this is more important for me than anything else.

 

[VirOptimus]

Its not internal feelings or convictions, you wouldn't understand, like i said if God appeared to you would you be an evolution origin believing atheist? of course not, God has made himself known to me, and this is more important for me than anything else.

The theory of evolution has nothing to do with atheism. Its just a description of reality.

 

[NBB]

The theory of evolution has nothing to do with atheism. Its just a description of reality.

The reality that God is not our origin right? it has something to do with atheism a bit.
They said that the branch of science that have more atheists are the biologists. I read that somewhere.

 

[driewerf]

Its not internal feelings or convictions, you wouldn't understand, like i said if God appeared to you would you be an evolution origin believing atheist? of course not, God has made himself known to me, and this is more important for me than anything else.

A few pages ago Shemjaza had the wisdom to propose a more productive conversation. I will follow his/her wise advise and try a different approach.
Oké, God has revealed himself to you. How does that change the fact that

• the human chromosome nr 2 is a fusion of two chimpansee chromosomes
• that we have 208.000 ERV's in our genome
• that Lucy is an intermediate between human and chimpansee
• that the presence and the characteristics of Tiktaalik were predicted
• that there are no pterodactyls alive anymore?
• that the enzymatic function of RNA was predicted before it was observed?

 

[Ophiolite]

So if you knew God you would still say evolution is our origin?

Certainly. When I was a practicing Christian I had absolutely no problem reconciling evolution with my Christianity. Quite the opposite in fact. I found it a wonderful expression of God's power and creativity that he had produced all the rich, magnificent diversity of the biosphere from some very simple rules acting over eons.

Either evolutoin made us, like they say it doesn't need any help its just a process that does its thing and comes with a result by its own...
Or yes God made us, i know God so i am a little biased in what to think about our creation why would i not be.

It is not an either-or option. You have what is called a false dichotomy. You pretend that you must either accept evolution, or believe in God. However, millions of Christians have no trouble doing both.

If I were still a Christian I would find your position offensive, for it basically asserts that God lies. As a Christian I saw his word in Scripture and in the universe he had created. The story told in the stars, the rocks, and the biology of the planet left no doubt that he had made man via evolution. Denying it would have been for me, at that time, a form of blasphemy. Since I've left Christianity I merely feel sorry that you choose ignorance over knowledge and limit the use of an intelligence you feel is God given.

 

[NBB]

Certainly. When I was a practicing Christian I had absolutely no problem reconciling evolution with my Christianity. Quite the opposite in fact. I found it a wonderful expression of God's power and creativity that he had produced all the rich, magnificent diversity of the biosphere from some very simple rules acting over eons.

It is not an either-or option. You have what is called a false dichotomy. You pretend that you must either accept evolution, or believe in God. However, millions of Christians have no trouble doing both.

If I were still a Christian I would find your position offensive, for it basically asserts that God lies. As a Christian I saw his word in Scripture and in the universe he had created. The story told in the stars, the rocks, and the biology of the planet left no doubt that he had made man via evolution. Denying it would have been for me, at that time, a form of blasphemy. Since I've left Christianity I merely feel sorry that you choose ignorance over knowledge and limit the use of an intelligence you feel is God given.

The most important parts of ourselves, our intellect and consciousness and our very person couldn't have possibly evolved because its spiritual... learn something you too... also the bible says people know God exists, but they get 'confused' and start thinking things that are not correct. You know God exists in your subconscious.