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Don't take this the wrong way, but sometimes the most deluded in our world are the people that tell others to "wake up". What's your definition of waking up? Can you be specific? I am asleep in some ways, but probably not nearly as much as others, like yourself.

I want to be nice; I have nothing against you or anyone here. Having said that, I will share what's true to me... Getting too deep into politics, like many people here, kind of eats away at the brain. You just get played by one or both sides. They suck you in. You have to be strong to remain objective, and this is even hard for the strongest of people.

Do you want proof? Just watch any media; they're all EXTREMELY BIASED towards the left or right. Use common sense. A party is not going to be right every single time for every issue, like the media claims.
 
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Fox News is as far from being objective and truthful as you can get. The Pharisees also created all kinds of false information -- about Jesus; He said in reply "I am the way, the truth, and the life."
I agree, but this applies to all information. All media and even religious information has been distorted to extreme extents to represent fiction, not facts.
 
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As I covered in my first post in this thread. His intent is irrelevant whether he mispoke OR he was being honest.... it was said in a way that could have been stated better, he didnt. It casts doubt.

There are PLENTY of videos with full context. You asked when. I showed you.

Its funny how quick people are to defend tge intent of Biden... but do not ever extend tge same courtesy to Trump.

What will those that have spent the last four years of their lives stewing in obsessed hatered of one man do... when hating him is no longer relevant?

Under Trump, I seek to be made more like Christ, love my wife and be grateful for the life God has given to me.

Under Biden, that will not change.

All I want is for Truth to win out.IF the will of the people truly is a Biden presidency. So be it.

IF Biden cheated or machines had error, I want truth to to be revealed and the victory to be without a giant question mark.

IF Trump is unable to prove his case, he goes out spending the rest of his term looking foolish, giving democrats more for the highlight reels to give them laughs for years to come.

I feel some people will have no reason to get up in the morning once Trump is gone and there is no longer someone that is "okay to loathe" in this world.

All I want is truth, IF that truth is a Biden presidency.... on Jan. 20th I will say welcome President Biden.

Til then, Trump has the right to defend his position... he has rights too, like him or not.

Bigger than Trump or Biden is the integrity of our voting system.... period.
I feel that it still is unfair even if there was no fraud. The unfairness comes from the mainstream media constantly lying, i.e., propaganda and the sheep who eat the media's lies.
 
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As I’ve said multiple times in this thread I have discovered 100,000 Trump votes that can be traced to the Abraham Lincoln butter sculpture in Iowa, And 60,000 votes that can be traced to potatoes in Idaho...
Yet of course you won’t read about this in the conservative biased media will you?
Everyone's let your "goading" go on long enough. Are we allowed to say whatever we want on this forum?
 
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I feel that it still is unfair even if there was no fraud. The unfairness comes from the mainstream media constantly lying, i.e., propaganda and the sheep who eat the media's lies.

The media is always full of lies, on both sides.

Sadly, humanity for the most part have itching ears and only seek truth when it is convenient and fail to seek it if it comes hard or the revelation of such truth is unpleasant.

In a perfect world, CNN,MSNBC, FOX or any other "news source" would be unbiased, our leaders would be chosen by policies and merit, rather than who they arent, but this is a fallen world, people choose what they want to hear and believe what they hear, most without questioning.

It is what it is..... desiring truth is NOT something that anyone should find "controversial" but here we are... 10 pages arguing over it.

There are zealots on both sides, when the issue shouldnt be "Biden or Trump"

The issue should be "Has our election been compromised?"

Everyone was so concerned about Trump and Russia and the integrity in 2016....

That concern seems to have vanished now that Trump may be gone.

The hypocrisy of this world and we as humans woukd be funny if it werent so sad.
 
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Don't take this the wrong way, but sometimes the most deluded in our world are the people that tell others to "wake up". What's your definition of waking up? Can you be specific? I am asleep in some ways, but probably not nearly as much as others, like yourself.

I want to be nice; I have nothing against you or anyone here. Having said that, I will share what's true to me... Getting too deep into politics, like many people here, kind of eats away at the brain. You just get played by one or both sides. They suck you in. You have to be strong to remain objective, and this is even hard for the strongest of people.

Do you want proof? Just watch any media; they're all EXTREMELY BIASED towards the left or right. Use common sense. A party is not going to be right every single time for every issue, like the media claims.

Wow, that's a pretty impressive passive-aggressive response you just did there. :)
 
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Everyone's let your "goading" go on long enough. Are we allowed to say whatever we want on this forum?
Not goading at all, just following the set president of the thread where anyone can make any accusations about voter/election fraud they want without any requirement to provide proof.
 
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The media is always full of lies, on both sides.

Sadly, humanity for the most part have itching ears and only seek truth when it is convenient and fail to seek it if it comes hard or the revelation of such truth is unpleasant.

In a perfect world, CNN,MSNBC, FOX or any other "news source" would be unbiased, our leaders would be chosen by policies and merit, rather than who they arent, but this is a fallen world, people choose what they want to hear and believe what they hear, most without questioning.

It is what it is..... desiring truth is NOT something that anyone should find "controversial" but here we are... 10 pages arguing over it.

There are zealots on both sides, when the issue shouldnt be "Biden or Trump"

The issue should be "Has our election been compromised?"

Everyone was so concerned about Trump and Russia and the integrity in 2016....

That concern seems to have vanished now that Trump may be gone.

The hypocrisy of this world and we as humans woukd be funny if it werent so sad.
Has any one else noticed that the Democrats are no longer stressing about social distancing due to Covid when celebrating Biden's win. Exactly what President Trump said would happen.
 
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As I covered in my first post in this thread. His intent is irrelevant whether he mispoke OR he was being honest.... it was said in a way that could have been stated better, he didnt. It casts doubt.

There are PLENTY of videos with full context. You asked when. I showed you.

Its funny how quick people are to defend tge intent of Biden... but do not ever extend tge same courtesy to Trump.

What will those that have spent the last four years of their lives stewing in obsessed hatered of one man do... when hating him is no longer relevant?

Under Trump, I seek to be made more like Christ, love my wife and be grateful for the life God has given to me.

Under Biden, that will not change.

All I want is for Truth to win out.IF the will of the people truly is a Biden presidency. So be it.

IF Biden cheated or machines had error, I want truth to to be revealed and the victory to be without a giant question mark.

IF Trump is unable to prove his case, he goes out spending the rest of his term looking foolish, giving democrats more for the highlight reels to give them laughs for years to come.

I feel some people will have no reason to get up in the morning once Trump is gone and there is no longer someone that is "okay to loathe" in this world.

All I want is truth, IF that truth is a Biden presidency.... on Jan. 20th I will say welcome President Biden.

Til then, Trump has the right to defend his position... he has rights too, like him or not.

Bigger than Trump or Biden is the integrity of our voting system.... period.
Except what you have posted is wrong. Removing words changes the meaning. You are using something that has been edited into a lie. Biden didn’t misspeak here. Your video has just removed certain vital words.

Try finding ding something that is factually correct—a complete text, not something that has been incorrectly edited.
 
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Except what you have posted is wrong. Removing words changes the meaning. You are using something that has been edited into a lie. Biden didn’t misspeak here. Your video has just removed certain vital words.

Believe what you want. Truth or in this case, lies.
This is the most rediculous behaviour i've seen yet from those who claim truth and side with those that deceive.

This is far too easy for the elect to possibly be deceived...

It's time to wake up.
 
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Believe what you want. Truth or in this case, lies.
This is the most rediculous behaviour i've seen yet from those who claim truth and side with those that deceive.

This is far too easy for the elect to possibly be deceived...

It's time to wake up.
In this case you are the one presenting intruths because you are misquoting what Biden said. It all changes when you tead what he actually said on context but you don’t cate about the truth.
 
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This means Biden wins.

Yes, that is obvious LOL

I can sense the sarcasm in this response. "It means that Biden wins you idiot, what else can it mean," is what I am sensing you are saying to me. But maybe I deserve that.


Of course not. Silly.

OK. Thank you.



Sigh...first, let me make it clear, Christians have every right to engage in politics.

I agree with you.


As you've seen, I do so myself regularly. But do NOT connect a political party to the church because I believe that is an abomination. Neither Democrats nor Republicans are upholding righteousness, the church, or the cause of Christ. Do not be deceived into thinking they are by cultists or half-crazed political zealots on either side. Democrats and Republicans have NOTHING to do with Christ, the church, or righteous causes. Neither Trump nor Biden represents the church, nor their Party what is, or is not God's will. Period! Anyone who tells you differently is a liar.

I keep hearing Christians say that a true Christian can not be a democrat.


You misunderstood. So when you go to the polls, you vote for the man who you think is the wiser, that will best run this country orderly, who will best not violate the law, nor promote corruption, hatred, fear, and injustice. But don't vote because you think one party is God-fearing and the other sodomites, because as we've seen (If we have eyes to see) the parties are two sides of the same coin. Both sinners deranged by spiritual insanity, neither better than the other, and nearly all destined for Hell. As a faithful and true Christian, the best you can do is block out all the rhetoric distraction and vote for the best person. Not the one you think will change the wicked world because only God can do that, and clearly, that is not His plan. In the world, there will always be wickedness. I will say this that sums it up pretty well:

Yes, I can't disagree with what you just said.

"It is a humanistic myth that we can change the world. The best we can do is our duty to spread the gospel that through it God will change those whom He has chosen out of the world. Because none of us will ever change this wicked world."

Trump's no savior or "chosen one". Biden is no Savior. But Biden is better morally, respects law, is better equipped mentally, has more virtue, is a better man, a better leader, and a more God-fearing human being. Not that he is saved (I don't know that), just saying he obviously has more respect for God, law, and order than Trump. That's why I, as a Christian, voted for Joe Biden this year. Not because he's going to "make America Great again" (a stupid cliche), but because he's the better choice of Christians among the two candidates. This despite the railings of Hypocritical, False, Political, Christians. Christ always says it best.

Lu 6:44
- For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

I would answer with, NO. How about you?

What will you as a conscientious Christian answer? With distractions and ramblings about gays and abortions as the hypocritical, false, political, Christians do, or with the truth? Because you cannot get figs from thorns in the flesh, nor grapes from a bramble bush. Even if blind evangelicals say you can. We must depend on Sola Scriptura rather than the new age politics of justifications.

This is something that I have to think about.

Congratulations Biden as our President-Elect!

Yes, this is probably the right thing to do.
 
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For me wait till Jan 20 comes around. So I am for president Trump. Right now if we toss out all the court battles Biden won. Biden has the right to act as if he is the winner and he should.

I probably should wait until January 20 as well.

Did you notice anything? Yeah.. didn't make fun of Biden or call him any names. There are many here where you just TALK about Trump...well you guys know.

Yes, I did notice that. Thank you and God bless you for that. I wasn't trying to call names or anything as well. I thought I was asking simple questions, but they were not all that simple.

And many are right this is not over till Jan 20th. And votes in the past by some court have been overturned or tossed out.

I did not know that other votes have been overturned. Well, some people maybe disappointed if that happens.

And Biden president or not.. he has a huge problem with his son that the DOJ are looking into money laundering. And they have proof both son and dad meet together on and on. Thats not even started. And the other report that will be released.

Did not know that piece of information. That is interesting.

One thing we as the body of Christ can not run away from is.. the WORLD will know your are mine by your love one for another. That is something that is not shining. Peoples personal feelings get tossed into all this.

Yes

This maybe true.

Trump or Biden.. I am not moved by some man. One man did stand for God.. the other does not. Yet our Father and Christ are STILL on the throne. The the media is right. What Trump started..over 70 million peoples eyes have been open to how Washington really is. So the USA will not go back to the way it was in the past. And Christ is for Life.. and He will and does stand alone. I will stand with Him not some man.

Thank you
 
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I'm thinking elections will be rigged from now on like in Russia. Elections will be lip service to the people only. They will mean nothing except symbolism to the old Democratic Republic. Voter fraud wins from here on out.

This maybe true.
 
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Not goading at all, just following the set president of the thread where anyone can make any accusations about voter/election fraud they want without any requirement to provide proof.
Kanye West won, but they threw all his votes in the dumpster.;)
 
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