Joe Biden Wins

[DavidPT]

The voter fraud stuff is conspiracy theory. There's no evidence of it.

What evidence do you have that this is only a theory, thus there is no evidence of this? How could you possibly know what evidence they may or may not possess? Maybe this evidence has not been fully brought to light yet.

 

[DavidPT]

There are 70 million MORE registered voters today that there were for Obama’s last election.
The fact that Biden got 10 million more votes than Obama with 70 million more people registered to vote, doesn’t seem unreasonable to me, and is Certainly not mathematically questionable.

In light of that, I agree that that appears reasonable, but that is only assuming every vote cast was a legit vote cast, and not a fraudulent vote cast. There's no way this election didn't involve voter fraud to some degree. The question is, to what degree? Less than a hundred? More than a thousand? More than a million?

 

[aiki]

What does this mean? Does this mean we are going to be a socialist country and or a communist country?

If the Dems get any significant sort of power to change things - which seems unlikely given their showing in the Senate and the overt voter fraud they are guilty of - you have only to look at Seattle, or Portland, Detroit, or San Francisco (or the entire state of California from which hundreds of thousands are fleeing) to see what Democratic (or, should I say, communist-socialist political leadership will look like). Not pretty. For a view of what such leadership looks like farther down the road and with more power just look at China: concentration camps, organ harvesting, violent oppression of religion and free speech, governmental authoritarianism. Funded by millions of dollars from China, this is where the Left (think Harris, Pelosi, AOC, CNN, NBC, etc.) wants to take the "land of the free and the home of the brave."

 

[pescador]

If the Dems get any significant sort of power to change things - which seems unlikely given their showing in the Senate and the overt voter fraud they are guilty of - you have only to look at Seattle, or Portland, Detroit, or San Francisco (or the entire state of California from which hundreds of thousands are fleeing) to see what Democratic (or, should I say, communist-socialist political leadership will look like). Not pretty. For a view of what such leadership looks like farther down the road and with more power just look at China: concentration camps, organ harvesting, violent oppression of religion and free speech, governmental authoritarianism. Funded by millions of dollars from China, this is where the Left (think Harris, Pelosi, AOC, CNN, NBC, etc.) wants to take the "land of the free and the home of the brave."

Then I suggest that you remain in Canada where you have an enlightened Prime Minister and an enlightened parliamentary system.

If you don't like Joe Biden and/or Kamala Harris, who cares!!

 

[SimpleLiving2019]

What does this mean? Does this mean we are going to be a socialist country and or a communist country?

And I thought churches supported Donald Trump? I am shocked that there were churches that were for Biden.

Update: Or does love actually win like some claim?

Cities erupt in cheers, church bells ring after news of Biden's projected win

Well, like others have said, the vote count is not done.

Regarding Biden, I make no comment right now, but regarding his platform, the Democratic Party, that could affect our religious liberties. I will give one example:

Any case where it is LGBT vs religious liberties...in the Democratic platform, LGBT wins every time. Only judges who will grant LGBT a win every time on these matters would be appointed. This can affect your livelihood and other areas.

 

[pescador]

In light of that, I agree that that appears reasonable, but that is only assuming every vote cast was a legit vote cast, and not a fraudulent vote cast. There's no way this election didn't involve voter fraud to some degree. The question is, to what degree? Less than a hundred? More than a thousand? More than a million?

Your saying "There's no way this election didn't involve voter fraud to some degree" is based on what? If you have credible evidence, produce it; that is the way our legal system works. If you don't your opinion, just like Trump's, means nothing.

 

[parousia70]

Your saying "There's no way this election didn't involve voter fraud to some degree" is based on what? If you have credible evidence, produce it; that is the way our legal system works. If you don't your opinion, just like Trump's, means nothing.

As I mentioned, links to any evidence to any voter fraud are wholly unnecessary in this thread.
The fact remains, at least half of the votes cast for Donald Trump have been proven to be fraudulent. HALF!! votes cast by potatoes in Idaho, votes cast by butter sculptures in Iowa, and a cashe of Trump votes in Texas have been proven to have been cast by a stockpile of confederate flags!!!
And no, I won’t do your homework for you. Wake up sheeple!!

 

[SimpleLiving2019]

You said you were suspicious that the election was fraudulent. I’m just wondering what evidence you have to back up that suspicion? As I suspected, it doesn’t appear you have any.
That’s for clarifying

Apparently a Pennsylvania postal worker has signed an affidavit that his post office was back dating mail in ballots. I read his affidavit. Here is an article speaking on it:
Pennsylvania postal worker goes PUBLIC with allegations in Project Veritas report that postmaster ordered backdating of ballots

On another note...using the USPS for any illegal activities has always been a bad idea and opens up jurisdiction for the FBI immediately.

 

[pescador]

As I mentioned, links to any evidence to any voter fraud are wholly unnecessary in this thread.
The fact remains, at least half of the votes cast for Donald Trump have been proven to be fraudulent. HALF!! votes cast by potatoes in Idaho, votes cast by butter sculptures in Iowa, and a cashe of Trump votes in Texas have been proven to have been cast by a stockpile of confederate flags!!!
And no, I won’t do your homework for you. Wake up sheeple!!

Evidence is totally unnecessary?

 

[hedrick]

Apparently a Pennsylvania postal worker has signed an affidavit that his post office was back dating mail in ballots. I read his affidavit. Here is an article speaking on it:
Pennsylvania postal worker goes PUBLIC with allegations in Project Veritas report that postmaster ordered backdating of ballots

On another note...using the USPS for any illegal activities has always been a bad idea and opens up jurisdiction for the FBI immediately.

It doesn’t matter even if it’s true. They are only counting ballots actually received by the deadline.

 

[SimpleLiving2019]

Nope, I couldn't imagine America becoming a communist country - not in a month of Sundays. It takes SEVERAL generations to achieve that, not a four year presidency.

Upon visiting a communist country, the first thing that'll strike you is the sociocultural shift - and it IS literally the difference between a classical pianist and an abrasive rapper. Imagine trying to convert either of those over to the other. (I know it happens, but we're not on Dr.Phil.)

You'd think it goes without saying, but the theory doesn't compare to the real thing. I'd say that the chances or America becoming a communist state are close to impossible. Not unless Joe manages to create a mind control substance that he slips into a vaccine - even then, he'd have to physically pin you down himself.

The revolution started with the cultural revolution in the 60’s. That was a necessary first step, the doctrine of Baalam, get the country rotten in sin so God’s protection starts to lift. This has been in the works several generations.

Check out the documentary Agenda: Grinding America Down

 

[aiki]

Then I suggest that you remain in Canada where you have an enlightened Prime Minister and an enlightened parliamentary system.

If you don't like Joe Biden and/or Kamala Harris, who cares!!

Enlightened? Yikes! What a bizarre characterization! Trudeau is a grotesque and embarrassing figure, not enlightened. And our parliamentarians are profoundly corrupt and self-serving.

It's so very typical of those on the Left to offer nothing but some form of "shut up" to those who disagree with them. Here's the thing, though: I don't need you - or anyone - to care about my view in order to express it. I will share my view whether you care about it or not. Your fascist response is impotent to stop me.

 

[SimpleLiving2019]

It doesn’t matter even if it’s true. They are only counting ballots actually received by the deadline.

Incorrect. His affidavit says they the USPS were still collecting ballots up till Nov 6, which doesn’t fit with Pennsylvania law. Did you read his affidavit? If ballots picked up on the 6th were back dated by USPS workers to the 3rd...that is not legal. It wouldn’t even be ok for postal workers to back date ballots picked up on the 4th. They post date the proper date, that is their jobs, it’s up to law to determine which post dates will be accepted, it is not up for USPS workers to take an active part in deciding what’s what by back room selective back dating of certain mail.

 

[pescador]

Apparently a Pennsylvania postal worker has signed an affidavit that his post office was back dating mail in ballots. I read his affidavit. Here is an article speaking on it:
Pennsylvania postal worker goes PUBLIC with allegations in Project Veritas report that postmaster ordered backdating of ballots

On another note...using the USPS for any illegal activities has always been a bad idea and opens up jurisdiction for the FBI immediately.

"Apparently..." That is always a clue that the opinion is flawed, as in "apparently the moon is made of blue cheese". It proves NOTHING.

And what kind of source is rt.com to prove anything? They're the political version of "The Onion".

 

[hedrick]

Incorrect. His affidavit says they the USPS were still collecting ballots up till Nov 6, which doesn’t fit with Pennsylvania law. Did you read his affidavit? If ballots picked up on the 6th were back dated by USPS workers to the 3rd...that is not legal.

But ballots received after 8pm nov 5 aren’t included in the count. It doesn’t matter what the postmark says. USPS doesn’t have the technology to deliver a ballot on the day before they receive it.

 

[SimpleLiving2019]

"Apparently..." That is always a clue that the opinion is flawed, as in "apparently the moon is made of blue cheese". It proves NOTHING.

And what kind of source is rt.com to prove anything? They're the political version of "The Onion".

I read the affidavit. I just pulled up a quick link addressing the issue.

 

[SimpleLiving2019]

But ballots received after 8pm nov 5 aren’t included in the count. It doesn’t matter what the postmark says. USPS doesn’t have the technology to deliver a ballot on the day before they receive it.

The question is going to be, what is actually included in the count that shows Biden winning, perhaps they are including some of those counts in that number we are getting on the TV screen. This certainly needs to be looked into, it is showing election fraud, and where there is smoke there is fire. Back dated ballots would also open up the door to slip them in with proper ballots for a recount, if there was further election fraud with the people handling the ballots on the other end, not keeping them properly separated.

And my understanding is that by Pennsylvania law, proper ballots have to be postmarked by 8pm Nov 3, not Nov 5. This will probably be one of the issues fought out in the courts, and can certainly matter depending on which way it goes.

And also, bear in mind, the reason I even posted the issue is that there seemed to be some debate on if there was any evidence of election fraud, the affidavit is evidence, so there is, how far, how extensive, or if it will make a difference is another matter.

 

[SimpleLiving2019]

I dug up a link to a copy of the affidavit so anyone can read it for themselves:

https://www.scribd.com/document/483333233/AFFIDAVIT-OF-RICHARD-HOPKINS#from_embed


I take away from this, no matter what the issue is, if you have to have something postmarked by a certain date to meet a deadline, and you wait till the day of the deadline, then you need to go to that actual USPS counter to have them process your mail right then and there, it’s always been that way. You cannot just put it in any random drop box and expect it to have that same date on the post mark, it has never been that way. For USPS workers to back date ballots to Nov 3, that were picked up for several days afterwards, needs to be investigated thoroughly.

 

[dogs4thewin]

All depends on what you mean he's won. There's a legal process yet to go through. Also not all church bells are ringing....your post seems to imply Christians everywhere are overjoyed about this.

not only is there a legal process it is several states. I counted up and I believe that the legal challeges involve some 73 EVS.

 

[nolidad]

The president of the US is not a king. Arguably, Biden is just a leader of a mob.

People always do things w/o God's approval. God never approved of innocent people being tortured. He allows free will. It is up to us to create the world we want to live in.

King= ruler or political leader. Like it or not Biden will be the next POTUS. We need to pray for him as commanded:

1 Timothy 2:1-3
King James Version

2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.

3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;

Proverbs 21:1
The king's heart is in the hand of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will.

This applies to presidents and congresses as well.

God raises up leaders according to HIs will for a nation. Yes people are always doing things that God does not approve of, but we cannot do them if He does not allow it.

God allows many negative things to happen to accomplish His will on earth no matter what man does.