Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days separated by 1000 years+?

[Marilyn C]

No, my viewpoint is all about Jesus Christ and defending His honor while yours is all about Israel and returning to the inferior old covenant system that Christ made obsolete long ago, which is a major offense to Christ's sacrifice.

So, who are these people ON the earth, `the nations of the saved...` (Rev. 21: 22)?

 

[Spiritual Jew]

So, who are these people ON the earth, `the nations of the saved...` (Rev. 21: 22)?

God's people with glorified immortal bodies, of course (1 Cor 15:50-54). Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor 15:50). We (God's people) are the only ones who will inherit the new earth because our names are in the book of life and mortals will not be there since "there will be no more death" (Rev 21:4) at that point. Everyone else are those whose names are not written in the book of life and will be in the lake of fire (Rev 20:15, Matt 25:41).

 

[sovereigngrace]

I am not preaching another gospel. It is just that your view point is all about YOU. God`s word centres on Christ and His great purposes through Him for the Body of Christ, for Israel and for the Nations.

Yes you are. 1 Corinthians15:22 reveals a repeated NT truth: "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." Basically, men either have one birth or two, just a natural birth, or both a natural and a spiritual birth. You must invent a 3rd group to support your Dispensationalism.

Christ made the three different realms in God`s great kingdom and he is preparing different groups to rule in those realms under Himself.

We are not all `soup` together in one spot. However we are all one family of God, however (like a family) there are different inheritances for each group.

Every rulership in every realm will be because of what Christ has done.

The Body of Christ will have the inheritance of rulership with the Lord in the highest realm. Thus they, (we) need to be made like Christ and have a heavenly body. To do that we need to die to self and let the Holy Spirit work out Christ nature in our life. It is the highest calling.

Then the OT saints never had that privilege as Christ had not died, and then ascended to send His Holy Spirit. However they had the Holy Spirit come upon different ones to prophecy, and do great acts. They were accounted righteous by believing in what God promised them as their inheritance - the city coming down from God out of heaven. That is to the lower realm. There they will rule. (Heb. 11: 16, Rev. 21:12)

And finally God made the earth and when He makes it new then there will be people who will dwell upon it and walk in the light of the New Jerusalem. (Rev. 21: 24) These are

- the great multitude from the trib, (Rev. 7: 9)
- those who followed God in the millennium, (Rev. 20: 13)
- those that never heard of Jesus but lived right according to their conscience, (Rev. 20: 13)
- Unborn babies & children under the age of accountability. (2 Sam. 12: 23)

God is so merciful and all through the Lord Jesus Christ.

(1) You deny the unity between the people of God in the Old and the New. (2) You miss the fact that only a chosen remnant were truly saved in the Old. (3) You reject how we have been grafted into faithful Israel and that the NT Church is true Israel.

Romans 9:6-8 confirms:"For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed."

 

[Marilyn C]

God's people with glorified immortal bodies, of course (1 Cor 15:50-54). Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor 15:50). We (God's people) are the only ones who will inherit the new earth because our names are in the book of life and mortals will not be there since "there will be no more death" (Rev 21:4) at that point. Everyone else are those whose names are not written in the book of life and will be in the lake of fire (Rev 20:15, Matt 25:41).

So if we are ON the new earth, then who is in the New Jerusalem, and who is with Christ on His throne in the highest?

 

[Marilyn C]

Yes you are. 1 Corinthians15:22 reveals a repeated NT truth: "For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive." Basically, men either have one birth or two, just a natural birth, or both a natural and a spiritual birth. You must invent a 3rd group to support your Dispensationalism.



(1) You deny the unity between the people of God in the Old and the New. (2) You miss the fact that only a chosen remnant were truly saved in the Old. (3) You reject how we have been grafted into faithful Israel and that the NT Church is true Israel.

Romans 9:6-8 confirms:"For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed."

Yes because of Christ people will have eternal life. However not all are IN the Body of Christ as that was NOT possible prior to the Lord`s death, resurrection and ascension and then sending His Holy Spirit to make us like Christ.

The OT saints never had that opportunity but were accounted righteous as they believed God for their inheritance of the city.

So can you please tell me -

- who are the nations of the saved ON the earth? (Rev. 21: 24)
- who are those in the New Jerusalem? (Heb. 11: 16, & Rev. 21: 12)
- who are those on Christ`s own throne? (Rev. 3: 21)

 

[Spiritual Jew]

So if we are ON the new earth, then who is in the New Jerusalem, and who is with Christ on His throne in the highest?

It's not a matter of who is in the New Jerusalem as if it was a literal physical city. The new Jerusalem is a symbolic reference to the bride of Christ/church of which all of God's people are members.

Notice that it is referred to as the bride of the Lamb, Jesus Christ:

Revelation 21
1:Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.

9 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

Yes because of Christ people will have eternal life. However not all are IN the Body of Christ as that was NOT possible prior to the Lord`s death, resurrection and ascension and then sending His Holy Spirit to make us like Christ.

The OT saints never had that opportunity but were accounted righteous as they believed God for their inheritance of the city.

I could not disagree more with the idea that the OT saints are not in the body of Christ.

1 Cor 10:1 For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. 2 They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3 They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

 

[Marilyn C]

It's not a matter of who is in the New Jerusalem as if it was a literal physical city. The new Jerusalem is a symbolic reference to the bride of Christ/church of which all of God's people are members.

Notice that it is referred to as the bride of the Lamb, Jesus Christ:

Revelation 21
1:Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.

9 One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, “Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God.

The Bible never says the `Bride of Christ.`

So where is the Church mentioned in the New Jerusalem?

 

[Marilyn C]

I could not disagree more with the idea that the OT saints are not in the body of Christ.

1 Cor 10:1 For I do not want you to be ignorant of the fact, brothers and sisters, that our ancestors were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea. 2 They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3 They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ.

Yes they were only enabled to survive through God`s provision. However they were NOT able to be made like Christ for as I said Christ`s Holy Spirit bringing His divine nature only occurred AFTER Christ ascended.

 

[sovereigngrace]

Yes because of Christ people will have eternal life. However not all are IN the Body of Christ as that was NOT possible prior to the Lord`s death, resurrection and ascension and then sending His Holy Spirit to make us like Christ.

The OT saints never had that opportunity but were accounted righteous as they believed God for their inheritance of the city.

So can you please tell me -

- who are the nations of the saved ON the earth? (Rev. 21: 24)
- who are those in the New Jerusalem? (Heb. 11: 16, & Rev. 21: 12)
- who are those on Christ`s own throne? (Rev. 3: 21)

I already addressed this error and you already carefully avoided. I will repeat.

You are inventing a Christ-rejecting people and placing the favor of God upon them and then inventing an imaginary future age to accommodate them. These OT passages are long-fulfilled. It is time for Dispys to move out of the OT and into the NT.

God has only got one people - those who are born of the Sprit of God of all races. That is it! Everyone else is of their father the devil. I know that is hard for you to swallow in the light of what you have been taught, but that is biblical Christianity. The old covenant is gone forever. It will never return. The new covenant is an eternal covenant.

Jesus said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

Jesus was our signpost to heaven. He was our direction. He was the way! What is more, when men saw Christ they saw truth, when they heard Christ they heard truth, when they embraced Christ they embraced truth. He also was the embodiment of eternal life. Without Him is spiritual death.

Jesus said, in John 10:1, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.” He then goes on to explain, “I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture” (John 10:9).

Favor with God can come only through Jesus Christ. He is heaven’s only means of access to God. Acts 4:12 says, “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

This is God’s only way to heaven. Christ is the center-point of salvation. We therefore see that Christ alone is our only way of access to heaven. There is no alternative arrangement pertaining to race or any other distinction. 1 Corinthians 3:11 states, “For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.”

Of course, Christ is the Rock that the believer stands on. He is the only spiritual foundation for man. Men either build their house upon that Rock or build it upon sand. Sand is self! A house properly built upon the Rock stands firm in the midst of the storm but the house built upon the sand falls apart. 1 Timothy 2:5-6 expressly states, “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time”

This couldn’t be any clearer! There is no Plan B. There is no back-doors into heaven. There is no alternative salvation. There is no other means of man gaining favor with God! There is no other way to become a child of God. There is no other path to be God’s one of God’s elect.

John the Baptist proclaimed in John 3:36, “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

There is nothing vague, ambiguous or complicated here. God only sees those in Christ and those not in Christ. There is also no room for fence-sitting here. If a Jew or Gentile (in the Old Testament or the New Testament) loves the Messiah Christ He is one of God's chosen, if he doesn't he is under the wrath of God. Simple!!! Basically: accept Jesus and God accepts you, reject Him and God rejects you.

Jesus said in John 5:23b-24, “He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”

Ok, what does this mean? Simple: those Jews and Gentiles that don’t accept Christ, don’t accept the Father. Christ-rejecting Jews and Gentiles are therefore under condemnation and are of their father the devil.

I John 2:22-23 solemnly asks, “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ (or Messiah)? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.”

Q. Does Israel overwhelmingly deny “that Jesus is the Christ” or Messiah?

A. Absolutely. Therefore, Judaism without Christ is a counterfeit religion. It is apostate! Any belief that denies Christ His rightful place as man's sole Redeemer is destined for destruction. Anyone that rejects Christ (1) is antichrist, (2) belongs to Satan, (3) is part of the kingdom of darkness and is (4) bound for the Lake of Fire.

1 John 5:12: “He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.”

The teaching of Scripture couldn’t be plainer: Jews who do recognize Christ as Messiah are saved. Jews who do not recognize Christ as Messiah are lost. The only chosen people that God knows and accepts are those that accept His Son. The rest are of their father the devil.

2 John 1:9: “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.”

If a sinner refuses Christ, he refuses the Father. This couldn’t be clearer in Scripture.

Jesus said in Luke 9:48, “whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me.”

So, those that reject Jesus, reject salvation. Those that reject Jesus, reject the Father. Those that reject Jesus, are children of the devil. This is seen throughout the inspired New Testament account.

Jesus said in Matthew 11:6: “blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.”

We don’t need to speculate about what natural Israel currently thinks of Christ.

Jesus said in Matthew 12:30, “He that is not with me is against me.”

There is no neutrality with this Jesus. There is no room for fence-sitting when it comes to Him. You are either for Him or against Him.

Jesus said in John 15:23, “He that hateth me hateth my Father also.”

God does not separate His elect up, He unites them together in Christ. In fact, there is nothing more unbiblical in this new covenant period than trying to divide up the people of God on the grounds of ethnicity. That is spiritual apartheid and runs completely to the New Testament plan of God to bring Jew and Gentile together equally in Christ. The whole mission of Jesus Christ in introducing the new covenant was to unite Jew and Gentile in salvation. Nothing could be clearer in the New Testament!

 

[sovereigngrace]

So if we are ON the new earth, then who is in the New Jerusalem, and who is with Christ on His throne in the highest?

The living in Christ are on earth now. The dead in Christ are in heaven now. Simple!

 

[Marilyn C]

I already addressed this error and you already carefully avoided. I will repeat.

You are inventing a Christ-rejecting people and placing the favor of God upon them and then inventing an imaginary future age to accommodate them. These OT passages are long-fulfilled. It is time for Dispys to move out of the OT and into the NT.

God has only got one people - those who are born of the Sprit of God of all races. That is it! Everyone else is of their father the devil. I know that is hard for you to swallow in the light of what you have been taught, but that is biblical Christianity. The old covenant is gone forever. It will never return. The new covenant is an eternal covenant.

Jesus said: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

Jesus was our signpost to heaven. He was our direction. He was the way! What is more, when men saw Christ they saw truth, when they heard Christ they heard truth, when they embraced Christ they embraced truth. He also was the embodiment of eternal life. Without Him is spiritual death.

Jesus said, in John 10:1, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.” He then goes on to explain, “I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture” (John 10:9).

Favor with God can come only through Jesus Christ. He is heaven’s only means of access to God. Acts 4:12 says, “Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.”

This is God’s only way to heaven. Christ is the center-point of salvation. We therefore see that Christ alone is our only way of access to heaven. There is no alternative arrangement pertaining to race or any other distinction. 1 Corinthians 3:11 states, “For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.”

Of course, Christ is the Rock that the believer stands on. He is the only spiritual foundation for man. Men either build their house upon that Rock or build it upon sand. Sand is self! A house properly built upon the Rock stands firm in the midst of the storm but the house built upon the sand falls apart. 1 Timothy 2:5-6 expressly states, “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time”

This couldn’t be any clearer! There is no Plan B. There is no back-doors into heaven. There is no alternative salvation. There is no other means of man gaining favor with God! There is no other way to become a child of God. There is no other path to be God’s one of God’s elect.

John the Baptist proclaimed in John 3:36, “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

There is nothing vague, ambiguous or complicated here. God only sees those in Christ and those not in Christ. There is also no room for fence-sitting here. If a Jew or Gentile (in the Old Testament or the New Testament) loves the Messiah Christ He is one of God's chosen, if he doesn't he is under the wrath of God. Simple!!! Basically: accept Jesus and God accepts you, reject Him and God rejects you.

Jesus said in John 5:23b-24, “He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”

Ok, what does this mean? Simple: those Jews and Gentiles that don’t accept Christ, don’t accept the Father. Christ-rejecting Jews and Gentiles are therefore under condemnation and are of their father the devil.

I John 2:22-23 solemnly asks, “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ (or Messiah)? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.”

Q. Does Israel overwhelmingly deny “that Jesus is the Christ” or Messiah?

A. Absolutely. Therefore, Judaism without Christ is a counterfeit religion. It is apostate! Any belief that denies Christ His rightful place as man's sole Redeemer is destined for destruction. Anyone that rejects Christ (1) is antichrist, (2) belongs to Satan, (3) is part of the kingdom of darkness and is (4) bound for the Lake of Fire.

1 John 5:12: “He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.”

The teaching of Scripture couldn’t be plainer: Jews who do recognize Christ as Messiah are saved. Jews who do not recognize Christ as Messiah are lost. The only chosen people that God knows and accepts are those that accept His Son. The rest are of their father the devil.

2 John 1:9: “Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.”

If a sinner refuses Christ, he refuses the Father. This couldn’t be clearer in Scripture.

Jesus said in Luke 9:48, “whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me.”

So, those that reject Jesus, reject salvation. Those that reject Jesus, reject the Father. Those that reject Jesus, are children of the devil. This is seen throughout the inspired New Testament account.

Jesus said in Matthew 11:6: “blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.”

We don’t need to speculate about what natural Israel currently thinks of Christ.

Jesus said in Matthew 12:30, “He that is not with me is against me.”

There is no neutrality with this Jesus. There is no room for fence-sitting when it comes to Him. You are either for Him or against Him.

Jesus said in John 15:23, “He that hateth me hateth my Father also.”

God does not separate His elect up, He unites them together in Christ. In fact, there is nothing more unbiblical in this new covenant period than trying to divide up the people of God on the grounds of ethnicity. That is spiritual apartheid and runs completely to the New Testament plan of God to bring Jew and Gentile together equally in Christ. The whole mission of Jesus Christ in introducing the new covenant was to unite Jew and Gentile in salvation. Nothing could be clearer in the New Testament!

You have not answered my questions.

So can you please tell me -

- who are the nations of the saved ON the earth? (Rev. 21: 24)
- who are those in the New Jerusalem? (Heb. 11: 16, & Rev. 21: 12)
- who are those on Christ`s own throne? (Rev. 3: 21)

 

[sovereigngrace]

Yes they were only enabled to survive through God`s provision. However they were NOT able to be made like Christ for as I said Christ`s Holy Spirit bringing His divine nature only occurred AFTER Christ ascended.

You need to read Ephesians 2. It shows we are joined to the OT saints:

11¶Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14¶For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19¶Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit

 

[Marilyn C]

The living in Christ are on earth now. The dead in Christ are in heaven now. Simple!

We are talking about the NHNE time.

 

[Marilyn C]

You need to read Ephesians 2. It shows we are joined to the OT saints:

11¶Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14¶For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
17And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
18For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
19¶Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit

Yes IN the Body of Christ are Jews and Gentiles, and fellow citizens of God`s great kingdom, however we are NOT all in the same part of God`s kingdom.

Where does it say the Body of Christ is IN the New Jerusalem?
Where does it say that the Body of Christ will be ON the new earth?

 

[sovereigngrace]

You have not answered my questions.

So can you please tell me -

- who are the nations of the saved ON the earth? (Rev. 21: 24)
- who are those in the New Jerusalem? (Heb. 11: 16, & Rev. 21: 12)
- who are those on Christ`s own throne? (Rev. 3: 21)

It is the redeemed of all time united for all eternity. Stop trying to divide up the people of God. Your false teaching is an offense to Scripture. Your teachers have taught you wrong.

 

[sovereigngrace]

We are talking about the NHNE time.

All are on the new earth. Stop twisting Scripture again. The NJ comes to earth at Christ's one and only future coming.

 

[Marilyn C]

It is the redeemed of all time united for all eternity. Stop trying to divide up the people of God. Your false teaching is an offense to Scripture. Your teachers have taught you wrong.

I don`t see any work there showing what those scriptures are saying. Just your opinion.

who are the nations of the saved ON the earth? (Rev. 21: 24)
- who are those in the New Jerusalem? (Heb. 11: 16, & Rev. 21: 12)
- who are those on Christ`s own throne? (Rev. 3: 21)

 

[Marilyn C]

All are on the new earth. Stop twisting Scripture again. The NJ comes to earth at Christ's one and only future coming.

Again just opinion. Can you please show who these people are in God`s word?

- who are the nations of the saved ON the earth? (Rev. 21: 24)
- who are those in the New Jerusalem? (Heb. 11: 16, & Rev. 21: 12)
- who are those on Christ`s own throne? (Rev. 3: 21)

 

[Marilyn C]

For those people without a BIble handy I will write out the scriptures so you can see for yourself who these people are.

Group 1. who are the nations of the saved ON the earth? (Rev. 21: 24)

`And the nations of those who are saved shall walk in its (New Jerusalem`s) light, and the kings of the earth shall bring their glory into it.` (Rev. 21: 24)

These people are NOT in the New Jerusalem. They are not kingpriests, (as the Body of Christ is)


Group 2. who are those in the New Jerusalem? (Heb. 11: 16, & Rev. 21: 12)

``But now they (Old testament saints) desire a better, that is a heavenly country. Therefore God is nt ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.` (Heb. 11: 16)

`and the names written on them, (walls & gates) which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel.` (Rev. 21: 12)

There we see that the Old testament saints inherit the city, those from the twelve tribes of Israel. No mention of the Body of Christ.


Group 3. who are those on Christ`s own throne? (Rev. 3: 21)

`To Him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.` (Rev. 3: 21)

And that throne, the seat of Christ`s power and authority (which goes out to every realm) is in the third heaven, the highest, over all. The apostle Paul said for us, like himself to -

`press toward the goal for the prize of the upward, (on top) call in Christ Jesus.` (Phil. 3: 14)

No other group has been promised to be like Christ and to have the inheritance of ruling with Christ on His own throne in the highest. Paul also warned for us to `hold fast to the head.` (Col. 2: 19)

There is a big deception at the moment saying that the Body of Christ` inheritance is ON the earth. And that everyone else will be with us. That is NOT what God`s word says.

We the Body of Christ are being made like Christ and have a wonderful inheritance in the highest with the Lord. Do not let anyone ROB you of that inheritance.