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Good writing, and not even having any error I can see. You even correctly pick the word "supposed" in reference to 'hell'.No I don't think anyone deserves to go to a place like hell is supposed to be. I think you are right that it depends on the reason for the lie. I think it's perfectly moral to lie in order to protect values but it's immoral to obtain a value by value by lying. If I have a hidden compartment in my shoe that I keep emergency cash in and I get held up by a robber, I give him what's in my wallet, I need not tell him about the money in my shoe when he asks if I have any more money hidden. That's a case where it would be moral to lie. The robber forfeited any rights he has as soon as he threatened me with a gun and I'd be watching for an opportunity to turn the tables on him and kill him if I get the chance. It would be immoral for me to roll back the odometer on a car I was trying to sell. In that case, the buyer would be dealing with me by trade, not force and it would be fraud to not tell him the actual mileage on the car.
That's exactly the right word --
sup·posed -- generally assumed or believed to be the case, but not necessarily so.
(definition from Oxford Languages via google)
There are quite a variety of imagined versions of what 'hell' is supposed to be.
Most people have a vague (and incomplete) idea ... or even many a little more, and even some actual scripture (instead of just none at all) so that they know that that 'hell' is a lake of fire (as scripture says it is, but that's not all that scripture says), and that the (already immortal) devil and his (already immortal) angels will suffer there for eternity (as scripture indeed does say)....and then jump to the wrong conclusion.
But a very complete and full reading in the collection of scriptures called the bible shows that many of these popular notions about what hell is by scripture do not fit all the various verses, such as for instance these:
Matthew 10:28 Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
Revelation 20:14 Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death--the lake of fire.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Does "destroy" seem a metaphor here? Does "kill" mean...to continue living?
Would Christ mess up His wording choice?
If it is to be a metaphor, why such a poor choice? "Sheep" is much more like a clear metaphor. The Bible is generally written with metaphors quite clear to a truly listening reader.
Was the wording "second death" an unfortunate poorly chosen wording when something more figurative was meant? Does "perish" mean...eternal life for those not yet in immortal bodies like the angels?
Or rather, as the verse actually says, do only some get eternal life, and the others that do not get eternal life then "perish"? (you can tell that I believe the verse says exactly what it means, and clearly)
What do the words actually say, if you truly listen?
They say that those who reject the God of Justice, Mercy, and Love will perish, in the second death, where body and soul will be destroyed. That is an eternal punishment.
It's also the same final outcome that most atheists already think is what happens after this temporary body dies.
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