The circus for Supreme Court replacement has already started

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It's called corruption. You're supposed to be not okay with that. Very simple:. before the rule was, "Let's wait until the new President comes into office, and let him pick ". Then Trump is up, and suddenly the rule is "amended". Now you want to ram a candidate through.

But instead, not surprisingly, all the same players just laugh it off. "Ha ha, it's just politics.".

The rules are regularly rewritten by those who gain the majority. How is this case unprecedented?
 
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we no longer have two parties that both want what is best for America and Americans, the dems have been usurped and work against America, it isn't right or left, it is right or wrong now in these last of the last days.
God is moving forward with His plan to bring mankind back to Him in relationship, personal relationship, as in Genesis 1 and as He describes in Revelation 22 when this is complete.
 
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The people voted the SENATE to represent THEIR STATES. Not Trump. It's called checks and balances. But if you don't want it anymore, watch what you ask for
So the Senate represent their states, it is called representative democracy. More states today are GOP. tomorrow it may be Dems. The timing of her death was left to God.
 
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So the Senate represent their states, it is called representative democracy. More states today are GOP. tomorrow it may be Dems. The timing of her death was left to God.

Again, no, they don't. They're SUPPOSED to. Instead they represent Trump. But if totalitarianism is what you want, then totalitarianism is what you will get. But once you're in, there's no going back.
 
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Again, no, they don't. They're SUPPOSED to. Instead they represent Trump. But if totalitarianism is what you want, then totalitarianism is what you will get. But once you're in, there's no going back.
Once they get the Bundy crowd to sign on the “Law and Order” schtick, all that’’ll be left is to build the camps.
 
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Again, no, they don't. They're SUPPOSED to. Instead they represent Trump. But if totalitarianism is what you want, then totalitarianism is what you will get. But once you're in, there's no going back.

Used to be that Senators' campaigns couldn't be bought and paid for by the highest bidder.

Another win for Democracy against the Republic, Res (Thing) Publica (Public) Public Thing, The Law.

The U.S. Constitution might not be perfect; but it's better than what we have.

SECTION. 3. The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.
 
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Again, no, they don't. They're SUPPOSED to. Instead they represent Trump. But if totalitarianism is what you want, then totalitarianism is what you will get. But once you're in, there's no going back.
What is going on here is not even authoritarianism, let alone totalitarianism. You might not like it, but it's not authoritarianism/totalitarianism which is defined largely by repression, not simply rushing through policies in what's seen as a hypocritical fashion.

I mean, the fact the goal is to try to get a nomination in quickly because they might lose the election is kind of a sign itself that it's not totalitarianism. In a totalitarian system there would be no risk of election loss.

Used to be that Senators' campaigns couldn't be bought and paid for by the highest bidder.

Another win for Democracy against the Republic, Res (Thing) Publica (Public) Public Thing, The Law.

The U.S. Constitution might not be perfect; but it's better than what we have.

SECTION. 3. The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.
Senators' campaigns couldn't be bought and paid for by the highest bidder? The corruption that resulted from the process of the state legislature choosing the Senators was one of the reasons they passed the Seventeenth Amendment in the first place (having Senators be elected by popular vote instead).
 
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Also, if you read Mitch McConnell's statement right there on Senate.gov, it says the Senate is committed to Trump's agenda. And that Trump's agenda is the reason they'll do it.

That is straight up totalitarian rule. No checks-and-balances whatsoever. The Senate, by Mitch's admission on a government website, works for Trump. The Supreme Court works for Trump.
You ALL work for Trump.
 
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There enough Republican senators running for reelection in tight races (plus two who sometimes have consciences--Romney and Murkowski) so that they may hesitate to do something so blatantly dishonest and hypocritical as to vote in a nominee one month before Election Day.
Guess I'd need to see evidence their constituents would care, because it isn't immediately apparent to me that is the case right now.
 
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America is not a democracy. It is a constitutional republic. It is very far removed from that, but we are not a democracy.
:doh: America is a representational democracy and a constitutional republic. It's comical how some Republicans are waging a semantic war against democracy.

What is undemocratic about it? The people via the Electoral College elected Trump and the Senate has a majority Republican membership. The new nominee gets a vote and democracy wins the day.
It's not undemocratic; you're right about that. It is extremely hypocritical of McConnell and his cohorts which exposes the blatant dishonesty of their opposition to Merrick in 2016.
 
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Senators' campaigns couldn't be bought and paid for by the highest bidder? The corruption that resulted from the process of the state legislature choosing the Senators was one of the reasons they passed the Seventeenth Amendment in the first place (having Senators be elected by popular vote instead).

In more than a century of legislative elections of U.S. senators, only ten cases were contested for allegations of impropriety.[14]

Seventeenth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia
 
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McConnell Statement on the Passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg | Republican Leader

Mitch McConnell has already straight up admitted he intends to rush a Supreme Court nominee through the Senate, ahead of the election. Even as he admits he stonewalled the previous nomination ahead of the 2016 election.

If you Google the political procedures for Supreme Court nomination, there are all kinds of circus show, involving "nuclear options", showmanship ahead of Congress's own elections, and such. Looking forward to all the things we are about to hear "the left" is doing.

Goodbye America. Democracy was nice while it lasted.

Seems to me that this is the same old, same old partisan political process being carried out in the usual way. It is not as if the Democrats would act any differently in the same situation. That is evident from how they act when in a similar situation. Both parties raise a great fuss about how the other party is acting unfairly and in an authoritarian manner when that other party has the ability to dictate an outcome but as soon as the shoe is on the other foot they suddenly forget about being fair and acting judiciously and celebrate the fact they can act in authoritarian manner and do whatever they please.

BTW America was never a democracy. Your last two sentences are silly. .
 
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:doh: America is a representational democracy and a constitutional republic. It's comical how some Republicans are waging a semantic war against democracy.

It's not undemocratic; you're right about that. It is extremely hypocritical of McConnell and his cohorts which exposes the blatant dishonesty of their opposition to Merrick in 2016.

America was never a democracy. The Democrats objecting to McConnell doing exactly what they wanted done for Merrick is just as hypocritical. The only difference being that the Democrats did not hold the Senate back then and could not do what the Republicans can do now. Should Democrats get control of the House, Senate and Presidency they will simply add Justices to the Supreme Court and pack it in their favor to the applause of many acting so offended by what McConnell is doing .
 
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If McConnell follows through on his two-faced plan, its time for D's to pack the court asap. All bets are off. Dont worry about what "constitutional". Its all about what you can get away with.
 
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America was never a democracy.
America has always been a representational democracy, as opposed to a "pure democracy", from its inception.

Democracy is worth dying for, because it's the most deeply honorable form of government ever devised by man. - Ronald Reagan​

I believe the Republicans have never thought that democracy was anything but a tribal myth. - Hunter S. Thompson​
 
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Honestly if Trump wanted to strike a brilliant move he would put Garland up. Dems wouldn't be able to refuse him and it would cost him nothing, maybe even score him some points. Its a massive gamble for them to go all in on a conservative judge. It will drive democrats to the polls in numbers not seen in a century.
 
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Honestly if Trump wanted to strike a brilliant move he would put Garland up. Dems wouldn't be able to refuse him and it would cost him nothing, maybe even score him some points. Its a massive gamble for them to go all in on a conservative judge. It will drive democrats to the polls in numbers not seen in a century.
Is picking a moderate less tolerable than shooting a guy on 5th Ave? Not sure....
 
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Honestly if Trump wanted to strike a brilliant move he would put Garland up. Dems wouldn't be able to refuse him and it would cost him nothing, maybe even score him some points. Its a massive gamble for them to go all in on a conservative judge. It will drive democrats to the polls in numbers not seen in a century.

That would be kind of funny, but IMO, Trump only cares about the USSC as far as it's able to fire up his base, and Garland won't fire up his base.

Another low-probability scenario is that Trump deliberately holds off on nominating a replacement until after the election, using his "restraint" to paint himself as a dignified gentleman statesman of sorts, while also using the open seat to fire up conservatives who were on the fence about him.
 
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Honestly if Trump wanted to strike a brilliant move he would put Garland up. Dems wouldn't be able to refuse him and it would cost him nothing, maybe even score him some points. Its a massive gamble for them to go all in on a conservative judge. It will drive democrats to the polls in numbers not seen in a century.

It will be interesting to see when and who he nominates. If a someone like Tom Cotton is nominated, it will put GOP Senators in close races in a very uncomfortable position. Voting has already started....
 
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