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Why do Christians never pray for impossible things?

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If you actually only said that, I would not have every responded. But you stated:

There is a reason and I don't think us knowing it or agreeing with it matters.

In my opinion your suggestion that these things should be healed by God doesn't even really make sense.

I lived next door to someone with downs syndrome. His life was a happy one. Missing limbs can be a consequence of human actions, for example warfare. Either way, people with missing limbs can have fulfilling lives. There's even a famous Christian speaker who is missing both arms and both legs. Lastly, here is someone with cerebral palsy (red gloves) sparring with professional fighters

So if you want to retract all of this, no problem. Otherwise, please address post #76 :)
I don't understand what the issue is?
 
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Miguel Juan Pellicer was born in the early 17th century to a Catholic family in the small agricultural community of Calanda, Spain. In 1637 when he was 20 years old, he was working on his uncle’s farm when a terrible accident occurred: he was riding a mule pulling a cart and accidentally fell off, and the cart ran over his right leg, breaking his tibia (also known as one’s shin – ouch!).

He received some treatment at a local hospital but soon decided to go to a special hospital in the city of Zaragoza dedicated to Our Lady of the Pillar. He, like many Catholics in Spain, had a strong devotion to her, and he hoped to benefit from her intercession.
Unfortunately, by the time he arrived, his leg was so gangrenous that it was black. The only option left was amputation. Two expert surgeons removed most of the lower half of his right leg from just below his knee. They cauterized the wound with fire.

Now, keep in mind that this was the mid-17th century, so there was no anesthesia. They gave him alcohol and other drugs to try to numb the pain, but Pellicer nonetheless experienced incredible pain. One witness later wrote: “In his torment the young man called upon the Virgin of the Pillar, unceasingly and with great fervor.” They then buried his amputated leg in the hospital’s cemetery, as was the custom.

A few months later, he was released with a wooden leg and crutch. Apparently, he was also able to get some sort of license for begging (I didn’t know that kind of thing even existed) at the Sanctuary of the Pillar. He was able to survive from begging and, since it’s a popular pilgrimage destination, was seen by thousands if not millions of people. He also got regular checkups with his doctor at the hospital.

But he didn’t lose hope that God still might heal his leg, as impossible as it seemed. In an act of faith, every night he would request some oil from the sanctuary, rub it on his stub, and pray for the intercession of Our Lady.

After about two years, with the health of his leg seemingly stable, he finally decided to return home. He arrived in the midst of the 2nd week of Lent (sometime around March 11-14) in 1640. Unable to help on the farm, he took up begging again, and many people in the surrounding towns saw his stub leg.

Then, about two weeks later on March 29th, the miracle happened.

It was around 10 p.m. and he was ready to go bed. A soldier was temporarily staying in his family’s home and was sleeping in his bed, so Pellicer plopped down in an extra bed in his parent’s room instead. About an hour later, his mother walked in and saw two feet sticking out of the covers. Thinking the soldier had gone to sleep in the wrong room, she called her husband to resolve the misunderstanding.

But when her husband came and lifted the blanket, he was shocked at what he found: it was their son, and he had both of his legs!


A painting of Pellicer’s parents finding him asleep with his leg restored. Artist unknown.
They tried to wake him up right away, but he was in a deep sleep and it took a while. Once they finally were able to shake him awake, he explained that he had been having a vivid dream in which he was at the Sanctuary of the Pillar and was rubbing his stub with the oil as he used to do.

The three of them rejoiced, praised God, and thanked the Lady of the Pillar for her intercession!

News of the miracle spread like wildfire in the surrounding towns, and both government and ecclesiastical officials came to their house to see his healed leg for themselves. Three weeks later, Pellicer and his parents made a pilgrimage to the Sanctuary of the Pillar to give thanks, and many people there who had known him with his stub leg were amazed to see him with both legs.

The story became such a sensation that the local archbishop conducted an extensive investigation of the miracle. When they dug up the box that he been buried with his amputated leg in the hospitals’ cemetery, it was apparently undisturbed – but empty. Regarding eye-witness testimony, there were obviously thousands of people who had clearly seen his stub leg before the miracle. So investigators asked two dozen of the most respected witnesses to testify in the court proceedings, including doctors who had treated him. No doubters of the miracle could be found.

A year later, the archbishop finally issued a judgement: the miracle was authentic.
 
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I don't understand what the issue is?

Your response is confusing. You now state you do not know the answer. Okay, that's fine...

But your first comments suggests...

....God has His reasons, but we won't know. Nor, does God care of our personal reasons. Okay... This might suggest that God cares not to answer the call to prayer for anyone with CP? -- Which would fall directly in line with (answer b.) of post #62....

However, moving forward, you then provide the video of a person whom functions with CP. You now appear to be trying to demonstrate a point that people with CP don't need to change. Well, looks like there exists individuals, which might do nothing but cause severe anguish among their family. Which means, I bet they pray, repeatedly, for some type of cure, undoing, or other... Does God care? Does He listen? Why does He skip them over repeatedly?


Thus, as also stated in post #62, seems as though the Bible suggests that God wants interaction with His creation. God also seems to also claim He answers petitionary and intercessory prayers.

Hence, I have to ask you now....

DOES God EVER answer prayer requests, which might involve the reversal or restoration of an illness, disease, or unwanted condition? If you state (yes), then we must again ask....

Why does He always skip Down's syndrome, amputees, and CP, 100% of the time it seems?

If your answer is still 'I don't know', then it takes me right back to asking, are you [SURE] God answers any prayers at all? How do you know? This is the entire point of the thread...

Seems as though God may answer the call of prayer, at the same rate as 'chance'? If prayers are answered at the same rate as chance, then how are we so sure God is in the picture at all?
 
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Your response is confusing. You now state you do not know the answer. Okay, that's fine...

But your first comments suggests...

....God has His reasons, but we won't know. Nor, does God care of our personal reasons. Okay... This might suggest that God cares not to answer the call to prayer for anyone with CP? -- Which would fall directly in line with (answer b.) of post #62....

However, moving forward, you then provide the video of a person whom functions with CP. You now appear to be trying to demonstrate a point that people with CP don't need to change. Well, looks like there exists individuals, which might do nothing but cause severe anguish among their family. Which means, I bet they pray, repeatedly, for some type of cure, undoing, or other... Does God care? Does He listen? Why does He skip them over repeatedly?


Thus, as also stated in post #62, seems as though the Bible suggests that God wants interaction with His creation. God also seems to also claim He answers petitionary and intercessory prayers.

Hence, I have to ask you now....

DOES God EVER answer prayers requests, which might involve the reversal or restoration of an illness, disease, or unwanted condition? If you state (yes), then we must again ask....

Why does He always skip Down's syndrome, amputees, and CP, 100% of the time it seems?

If your answer is still 'I don't know', then it takes me right back to asking, are you [SURE] God answers any prayers at all? How do you know? This is the entire point of the thread...

Seems as though God may answer the call of prayer, at the same rate as 'chance'? If prayers are answered at the same rate as change, then how are we so sure God is in the picture at all?
I don't think God doesn't care I said it doesn't matter. As in to us as people.

God does what he wants and he sets the standards. This whole thing of "Well I dislike that God doesn't just instantly cure certain illness on the request of people means he is either bad or doesn't exist" is nonsense. I'm sorry but it has no foundation. It puts your opinion as the authority.

Diseases, syndromes, suffering and medical problems exist. Therefore if God exists he wants them to exist.

God is the creator by Christian beliefs, he would have to be so intelligent it is not worth comparing to our intelligence. Our reasoning. Even if there's only some "higher being" who created the universe this being would have had to foresee Christianity being the biggest religion.

If there isn't a creator. Why does any of this even matter?
 
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I don't think God doesn't care

Then why does He skip over any and all requests for restoration of CP?

I said it doesn't matter. As in to us as people.

I agree, to a degree.... Meaning, if God exists, He can do whatever He wants. However, He states He not only wants a personal relationship with His creation, but He answers the call to petitionary and intercessory prayers.

Thus, we appear to have a potential conflict? He claims He answers prayer. However, in regards to CP requests, He skips right over them, time and time again, perpetually?


God does what he wants and he sets the standards.

I agree, to a degree.... Meaning, He can certainly do whatever the heck He wants. He's God. However, He tells His creation He answers the call to prayer. People also claim He answers their prayers. So if any of this is true, then why does God skip over, with what looks to be 100% assurance, CP? But at the same time, intervenes in other claims of physical illnesses, diseases, and conditions? Why does CP, Down's syndrome, and amputees, look to get a bump wrap always?

This whole thing of "Well I dislike that God doesn't just instantly cure certain illness on the request of people means he is either bad or doesn't exist" is nonsense. I'm sorry but it has no foundation. It puts your opinion as the authority.

If you look again at post #62, you will see my assessment... I'm not asserting any 'authority', quite frankly. :) I presented the options, as they are presented from the Bible. I'm going with (option a.) as the most plausible answer, at the moment. Again, God asserts specific things. He wants interaction? He apparently also answers prayer? He says this in the Bible, not me.

How about you? What's your take? Do you also agree He asserts that He answers prayer???


Diseases, syndromes, suffering and medical problems exist. Therefore if God exists he wants them to exist.

He 'wants' them to exist, or He allows them to exist?

If He wants them to exist, seems as though He is not really after human well-being after all, is He?.?.?.?


God is the creator by Christian beliefs, he would have to be so intelligent it is not worth comparing to our intelligence. Our reasoning. Even if there's only some "higher being" who created the universe this being would have had to foresee Christianity being the biggest religion.

If there isn't a creator. Why does any of this even matter?

Well, you can certainly state whatever you wish; which could also apply to any invented supernatural agent all-the-same. However, we must deal with the fact that the Bible asserts that God answers prayer. So we must then rationally ask ourselves...

Why completely skip certain categories, while sometimes answering other categories?

Is it that He does not want to answer the call for certain types of requests, or, is it maybe more logical to conclude the concept of God's intervention is simply inserted fallaciously, when the chips fall in your favor?
 
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Then why does He skip over any and all requests for restoration of CP?
I honestly don't know. But to me it doesn't automatically mean anything negative about God.

I agree, to a degree.... Meaning, if God exists, He can do whatever He wants. However, He states He not only wants a personal relationship with His creation, but He answers the call to petitionary and intercessory prayers.

Thus, we appear to have a potential conflict? He claims He answers prayer. However, in regards to CP requests, He skips right over them, time and time again, perpetually?

How can God answer all prayer. Some prayers must be "skipped". The world is so vast, there's billions of people. What if prayers conflict with each other?

I agree, to a degree.... Meaning, He can certainly do whatever the heck He wants. He's God. However, He tells His creation He answers the call to prayer. People also claim He answers their prayers. So if any of this is true, then why does God skip over, with what looks to be 100% assurance, CP? But at the same time, intervenes in other claims of physical illnesses, diseases, and conditions? Why does CP, Down's syndrome, and amputees, look to get a bump wrap always?

We don't know. Many diseases have been stopped throughout history. Maybe people were praying for hundreds of years for certain ones to end. Eventually they did.

If you look again at post #62, you will see my assessment... I'm not asserting any 'authority', quite frankly. :) I presented the options, as they are presented from the Bible. I'm going with (option a.) as the most plausible answer, at the moment. Again, God asserts specific things. He wants interaction? He apparently also answers prayer? He says this in the Bible, not me.

How about you? What's your take? Do you also agree He asserts that He answers prayer???

My take is that answering prayer must be so complicated we can't understand it. Not for some philosophical reason. The maths involved alone would make it impossible.

He 'wants' them to exist, or He allows them to exist?

If He wants them to exist, seems as though He is not really after human well-being after all, is He?.?.?.?
Don't you think God could have a greater purpose? I mean that is one of the major points of Christianity. I don't know if want is the right word. In hindsight.

Well, you can certainly state whatever you wish; which could also apply to any invented supernatural agent all-the-same. However, we must deal with the fact that the Bible asserts that God answers prayer. So we must then rationally ask ourselves...

Why completely skip certain categories, while sometimes answering other categories?

Is it that He does not want to answer the call for certain types of requests, or, is it maybe more logical to conclude the concept of God's intervention is simply inserted fallaciously, when the chips fall in your favor?

Why are those the only options? Even so I'd say what's wrong with the first option?

I need to ask, what are your beliefs? About God, the universe etc?
 
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I honestly don't know. But to me it doesn't automatically mean anything negative about God.

It's not about being 'negative' or 'positive' about God. It instead means maybe there is no God there to begin with, which is deciding which prayers to answer???

Think about it....

A seemingly infinite number of anecdotal stories exist for God curing one's illnesses and conditions. However, whenever it involves conditions for which are currently rendered 'irreversible', such as CP, Down's syndrome, and CP, God seems to never answer the call, on His own, either?.?.?.?

Seems a bit odd, wouldn't you agree?


How can God answer all prayer. Some prayers must be "skipped". The world is so vast, there's billions of people. What if prayers conflict with each other?

I see two immediate problems with your statement.

1. This is God, nothing slips past Him. No problem is too great. Nor, could anything ever overwhelm such a God. If God wants to intervene, He will. If this asserted God exists apparently???


2. The OP topic was raised to highlight a point it seems... If God is sometimes answering the call to petitionary and intercessory prayer, for many other illnesses, diseases, and conditions, then why does He not answer the call, at the same rate, for the ones currently deemed irreversible -- like CP, Down's, and amputees?


We don't know. Many diseases have been stopped throughout history. Maybe people were praying for hundreds of years for certain ones to end. Eventually they did.

So if/when 'science' ever finds a way to reverse such conditions, we humans will then just give God the credit? Sounds pretty unfalsifiable, if you ask me? (i.e.)

In the mean time, God wants all people with CP, Down's, and amputees, to remain as they are. But some day, in the future, God may start to heal these people, likely with the help of 'science'?..?.? Does this make sense?


My take is that answering prayer must be so complicated we can't understand it. Not for some philosophical reason. The maths involved alone would make it impossible.

You did not answer my direct question.

Do you also agree He asserts that He answers prayer???


Don't you think God could have a greater purpose? I mean that is one of the major points of Christianity. I don't know if want is the right word. In hindsight.

God wants for some to live their entire lives with severe CP, severe Down's syndrome, and amputees?

Why are those the only options? Even so I'd say what's wrong with the first option?

I need to ask, what are your beliefs? About God, the universe etc?

You skipped over another question in red:

Why completely skip certain categories, while sometimes answering other categories?

And to answer your question, I was raised Catholic, later became a non-denominational. I believed up until a few years ago. The catalyst was actually when taking the time to read the Bible. It raised more questions, then to give me answers. And prayer is definitely one major question... :)

However, as I see it, we look to have presented a false dichotomy:

A: God exists, but skips over CP, Down's, and amputees
B: God does not exist, and all claims to answered prayer are actually a result of differing circumstances
 
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It's not about being 'negative' or 'positive' about God. It instead means maybe there is no God there to begin with, which is deciding which prayers to answer???

Think about it....

A seemingly infinite number of anecdotal stories exist for God curing one's illnesses and conditions. However, whenever it involves conditions for which are currently rendered 'irreversible', such as CP, Down's syndrome, and CP, God seems to never answer the call, on His own, either?.?.?.?

Seems a bit odd, wouldn't you agree?




I see two immediate problems with your statement.

1. This is God, nothing slips past Him. No problem is too great. Nor, could anything ever overwhelm such a God. If God wants to intervene, He will. If this asserted God exists apparently???


2. The OP topic was raised to highlight a point it seems... If God is sometimes answering the call to petitionary and intercessory prayer, for many other illnesses, diseases, and conditions, then why does He not answer the call, at the same rate, for the ones currently deemed irreversible -- like CP, Down's, and amputees?




So if/when 'science' ever finds a way to reverse such conditions, we humans will then just give God the credit? Sounds pretty unfalsifiable, if you ask me? (i.e.)

In the mean time, God wants all people with CP, Down's, and amputees, to remain as they are. But some day, in the future, God may start to heal these people, likely with the help of 'science'?..?.? Does this make sense?




You did not answer my direct question.

Do you also agree He asserts that He answers prayer???




God wants for some to live their entire lives with severe CP, severe Down's syndrome, and amputees?



You skipped over another question in red:

Why completely skip certain categories, while sometimes answering other categories?

And to answer your question, I was raised Catholic, later became a non-denominational. I believed up until a few years ago. The catalyst was actually when taking the time to read the Bible. It raised more questions, then to give me answers. And prayer is definitely one major question... :)

However, as I see it, we look to have presented a false dichotomy:

A: God exists, but skips over CP, Down's, and amputees
B: God does not exist, and all claims to answered prayer are actually a result of differing circumstances
I don't mean this disrespectfully or personally. I did read your response and considered it but I don't think there's any benefit to continuing. I don't know why God does certain things. I believe in him and trust him. Proverbs 3:5-6 instructs this.
 
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It's not about being 'negative' or 'positive' about God. It instead means maybe there is no God there to begin with, which is deciding which prayers to answer???

Think about it....

A seemingly infinite number of anecdotal stories exist for God curing one's illnesses and conditions. However, whenever it involves conditions for which are currently rendered 'irreversible', such as CP, Down's syndrome, and CP, God seems to never answer the call, on His own, either?.?.?.?

Seems a bit odd, wouldn't you agree?




I see two immediate problems with your statement.

1. This is God, nothing slips past Him. No problem is too great. Nor, could anything ever overwhelm such a God. If God wants to intervene, He will. If this asserted God exists apparently???


2. The OP topic was raised to highlight a point it seems... If God is sometimes answering the call to petitionary and intercessory prayer, for many other illnesses, diseases, and conditions, then why does He not answer the call, at the same rate, for the ones currently deemed irreversible -- like CP, Down's, and amputees?




So if/when 'science' ever finds a way to reverse such conditions, we humans will then just give God the credit? Sounds pretty unfalsifiable, if you ask me? (i.e.)

In the mean time, God wants all people with CP, Down's, and amputees, to remain as they are. But some day, in the future, God may start to heal these people, likely with the help of 'science'?..?.? Does this make sense?




You did not answer my direct question.

Do you also agree He asserts that He answers prayer???




God wants for some to live their entire lives with severe CP, severe Down's syndrome, and amputees?



You skipped over another question in red:

Why completely skip certain categories, while sometimes answering other categories?

And to answer your question, I was raised Catholic, later became a non-denominational. I believed up until a few years ago. The catalyst was actually when taking the time to read the Bible. It raised more questions, then to give me answers. And prayer is definitely one major question... :)

However, as I see it, we look to have presented a false dichotomy:

A: God exists, but skips over CP, Down's, and amputees
B: God does not exist, and all claims to answered prayer are actually a result of differing circumstances
Also I know you take the time to format and quote everything. I feel bad but I just see this going nowhere.
 
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Also I know you take the time to format and quote everything. I feel bad but I just see this going nowhere.

Then don't engage upon the Christian apologetics arena maybe?

Furthermore, I feel if you had confident responses, you might continue. But in light of the presented points, maybe you could be ducking out for 'other' reasons?


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I don't mean this disrespectfully or personally. I did read your response and considered it but I don't think there's any benefit to continuing. I don't know why God does certain things. I believe in him and trust him. Proverbs 3:5-6 instructs this.

Even though there looks to be other equally plausible explanations for 'unanswered prayer', aside from God choosing to perpetually pass them over?

I guess nothing can 'shake your faith' :)
 
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Dear Lord, please turn InterestedAtheist into a square circle. Thank you. Amen. (Fingers crossed)

I have yet to encounter a square circle, and trying to conceive of one leaves me at an impasse as to how it is possible to exist. And I think that's sort of the point. It's reducing petitionary prayer to absurdity. One might as well ask why women don't go looking for married bachelors as a potential spouse.

So, I don't think its a very good argument.
 
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Quid says that Christians do not ask God for things.
Never said this. In fact mentioned petitionary prayer and Jesus in Gethsemane where He prayed to have this cup pass over. Re-read my post.

I believe that is that it is a misunderstanding, and one that that I have seen in several others in this thread.

I hope I can clear this up.

I have seen several people post, as you do, saying that prayer is not about getting things from God. Well, that's fine, and a good discussion to have at another time. But that is not what I am asking right now.

Take a look at this: Prayer Wall

Here you can see Christians doing what Christians all over the world do, all the time: petitionary prayer. Asking God for things. Let's not get into a discussion on whether they are or are not doing prayer correctly. The fact is, Christians do pray to God and ask Him to give them things.

So my question is this:

Why do these Christians, who pray to God and ask Him for things, and clearly believe that their prayers are often if not always answered...

Why do they never pray for impossible things, but only for things which might happen anyway?
You did not really pay attention to what I wrote. People pray to commune with God, its primary function, and petitionary prayers fall within that scope. Hence, there is a sense of Providence and Thy Will be done. The point of petitionary prayer is to assist us in participating in the Will of God, to paraphrase Lewis.

Thing is, there is a sense in which causality is fully with God, seeing that we hold a doctrine of impassibility. God's Providence is what is at play here, and to pray is to ask something that God has in a sense already decided - our prayer won't change His Will - but we are participating in it by doing so. If I can refer to Lewis again, if God wanted something for me, He would give it to me with or without prayer, but this same idea can be reduced to something even as mundane as asking someone to pass you the salt. Prayer is an act within the Providence of God. If I pray to not get flu this year, that is as much an impossibility if I do catch flu, as regrowing a limb. The difference being, that it is easier for me to realise, and thus conform to the Will of God, in the one example rather than the other.

This is not just Christians saying this. Psychology and Anthropology also makes this point, that petitionary prayers for the sick are less about gaining an outcome, about a mercenary gain, than about the relationship with the Divine. That is why a naked prayer to get a limb back or so doesn't happen, though it can be prayed if someone so wishes, but to do so would most likely shade off into magic and away from the actual purpose of praying. I attached a study on the nature of healing prayer for you.

Healing Through Prayer: A Qualitative Study : Holistic Nursing Practice
 
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Where exactly are these assertions clarified in full, which would conclude absolute absurdity or misunderstanding in the attempts to petition God for any type of physical restoration -- (i.e. amputees, Down's syndrome, CP)?
I nowhere said people couldn't so petition. They can, but they mostly wouldn't, as it would not fall within the function of prayer within a life of Faith. Such things are absurd in that they presuppose the meaninglessness of what is to be restored, instead of how such things are usually framed within the broader purpose or Will of God. It would be akin to if my son asked me to help him build a dinosaur, but I change it into a spaceship, or I tell him to clean up but then proceed to tip out all the toys onto the floor. The request is absurd within the context of the purpose of the act.

It is not as if people have not prayed such things before. I am sure every parent with a lifeless child has done so. That prayer is answered in God's way, in framing that child's life within broader meaning. After all, Jesus raised the daughter of Jairus; but then, Jesus Himself died on the cross, while mocked that He save himself, or as was said elsewhere, Physician Heal Thyself.
 
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When I was an active duty military intelligence analyst, one of the lessons we learned with regard to interrogations was, "Don't argue with someone you're trying to get information from."
Is this an interrogation? I thought it was a discussion. If you want to know what I think about something, all you have to do is ask. I'll be happy to answer any reasonable questions truthfully, and I assumed it was the same with you.
It doesn't matter whether our answers a "plausible" to you. Our answers are our answers, and our actions are in accordance with them.
Of course it matters if your answers are plausible. This is a debating forum. If your answers are convincing, then I shall revise my beliefs.
But our actions should be in accordance with what what we tell you we believe.
I couldn't agree with you more.

I wonder if we're having a difficulty in communicating here.
Would you please tell me: what do you think I am asking in this thread? What do you think I want to know?
 
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Never said this. In fact mentioned petitionary prayer and Jesus in Gethsemane where He prayed to have this cup pass over. Re-read my post.
I think I can be pardoned for not realising that you meant Christians when you spoke of Christ! It's unusual to call the leader of a movement a follower of the leader of the movement.
You did not really pay attention to what I wrote. People pray to commune with God, its primary function, and petitionary prayers fall within that scope. Hence, there is a sense of Providence and Thy Will be done. The point of petitionary prayer is to assist us in participating in the Will of God, to paraphrase Lewis.

You really are missing the point.

Will you not do me the favour of please, just for a few moments, paying attention to what I am actually saying?

Take a look at this: Prayer Wall
Please. Really. Click on the link. Look at it.

What do you see?
I'll tell you.
Christians praying to God, asking Him for things.
At the time of writing, the front page includes:

"Please God, help people who are in danger of hurricanes."
"Please pray for my psychological wellbeing."
"Please pray for my difficult situation."
"Please pray for me because I'm feeling hopeless."
"My tooth hurts. Please pray for it to be healed."
"Please pray for a pastor to recover from coronavirus."
"Please pray that animals and people are not hurt in the California fires."
"Please open up lines of communication between me and my ex."
"Please pray for the doctors and nurses treating my aunt's cancer."

Now, my question is a simple one. It does not concern the ethics of asking God for things, and it does not concern whether Christians do or do not.
Christians do ask God for things.
All the time.
And we can see a very clear example of it here.

The question I am asking, and would be very grateful for an answer for, is this:
Why are they only asking for things that are possible and might happen with or without God?
And, as a follow-up question:
Why do Christians almost never pray for things that are impossible?
 
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our daughter had an accident this summer & afraid she'd lose her finger
immediately asked family members for prayer

she got stitched up & referred to a surgeon who had to repair the tendon & nerve

we didn't know at the time but found out this surgeon is an expert in his field
with such a surgery, fortunate we had an expert

did prayers help, I believe so
even so, it will take a year to heal
I'm glad to hear she got better.

May I ask:
When you prayed to God to heal her, what were you actually asking for, hoping, and expecting would happen?

Did you hope that if you prayed, your daughter's finger would immediately and miraculously recover, instantly and perfectly?

Or were you just praying that the doctors would treat her well, her wound would recover, and she would be lucky in nothing going wrong with the healing process?
 
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I think I can be pardoned for not realising that you meant Christians when you spoke of Christ! It's unusual to call the leader of a movement a follower of the leader of the movement.
Where did I do this? We are little Christs, meant to emulate Christ in all things - including prayer.

You really are missing the point.

Will you not do me the favour of please, just for a few moments, paying attention to what I am actually saying?

Take a look at this: Prayer Wall
Please. Really. Click on the link. Look at it.

What do you see?
I'll tell you.
Christians praying to God, asking Him for things.
At the time of writing, the front page includes:

"Please God, help people who are in danger of hurricanes."
"Please pray for my psychological wellbeing."
"Please pray for my difficult situation."
"Please pray for me because I'm feeling hopeless."
"My tooth hurts. Please pray for it to be healed."
"Please pray for a pastor to recover from coronavirus."
"Please pray that animals and people are not hurt in the California fires."
"Please open up lines of communication between me and my ex."
"Please pray for the doctors and nurses treating my aunt's cancer."

Now, my question is a simple one. It does not concern the ethics of asking God for things, and it does not concern whether Christians do or do not.
Christians do ask God for things.
All the time.
And we can see a very clear example of it here.

The question I am asking, and would be very grateful for an answer for, is this:
Why are they only asking for things that are possible and might happen with or without God?
And, as a follow-up question:
Why do Christians almost never pray for things that are impossible?
As I said, Christians do pray for things, and rightly so. I went into some trouble explaining the nature of prayer, and why we pray for some things and not necessarily for others. As far as I am concerned, your queries have been answered. You are intent on ignoring it, and keep asking in spite thereof. Prayer is not a form of magic. Why don't Christians treat it as such, because it isn't. It doesn't seem as if you are trying to understand prayer at all here, so I bid you good day.
 
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